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True cost of charging an EV is equivalent to paying $17.33 a gallon.


               
2023 Dec 15, 6:13am   13,912 views  131 comments

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True cost of charging an EV is equivalent to paying $17.33 a gallon of gas, per new report

By Olivia Murray

In October, I wrote an essay on a “bombshell report” from a Texas think tank “which revealed that the actual cost of rechargeable cars and the E.V. industry is, in reality, much higher than they’re leading us to believe.”

The report is around 20-pages long, so I was only able to cover one of the explosive revelations—the average battery-powered car (E.V.) would cost “approximately $48,698 more to own over a 10-year period” were it not for the “staggering” handouts from the taxpayer via an extortionary and feckless government—but there were more.

Now, not only were the energy experts able to quantify the additional cost over time, but they were also able to put a dollar amount on the real cost of charging the vehicle, translated into price per gallon of gasoline. As you might guess, the price is astronomical, but that’s not the the end of it.

While EV advocates claim charging costs are equivalent to $1.21-per-gallon gasoline, the real amount is an order of magnitude more.

Including the charging equipment, subsidies from governments and utilities and other frequently excluded expenses, the true cost of charging an EV is equivalent to $17.33-per-gallon gasoline — but the EV owner pays less than 7% of that.

So if the E.V. owner pays less than 7% of that massively inflated cost to “fuel” a car, that means more than 93% of the financial burden falls on the taxpayer—as the NY Post authors also write:

This is socialism for the rich: a transfer of costs from higher net-worth individuals to middle- and lower-income taxpayers.

It’s the equivalent of levying taxes and fees on public-transportation users and those who walk or bicycle to work and using the money to reduce the price of gasoline.

At this stage, E.V.s, if forced to stand on their own, are an utter failure, and as I noted in my previous blog, bad ideas and inferior products only find security in a “free” market… rigorously controlled by big government fascists. If our market were truly free, an extremely expensive car that can spontaneously combust, only works in a limited temperature range, occasionally malfunctions and locks occupants inside before rolling backwards into bodies of water, and costs $17.33 per “gallon” to “fuel” up, would be dead on arrival—as it should be.

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1   MolotovCocktail   @   2023 Dec 15, 8:36am  

Minor Devil's Assvocate Point:

I wonder if the price stated in comparison here to operate a gas car includes all the infrastructure, etc like they are factoring into the EV's true cost (which I don't dispute).
2   socal2   @   2023 Dec 15, 8:47am  

GNL says

While EV advocates claim charging costs are equivalent to $1.21-per-gallon gasoline, the real amount is an order of magnitude more.

Including the charging equipment, subsidies from governments and utilities and other frequently excluded expenses, the true cost of charging an EV is equivalent to $17.33-per-gallon gasoline — but the EV owner pays less than 7% of that.


I didn't get any subsidies for my Tesla and I am able to charge in my garage using the existing 220 outlet without any extra equipment. I rarely use Tesla Superchargers unless on a rare long road trip.

I have saved thousands in fuel costs over the last 5 years of driving EVs.
3   WookieMan   @   2023 Dec 15, 9:01am  

It's not about today. It's about the future. EV's will 100% be more expensive to "fuel" up. You can't lose 5-10% of MFT funds and keeps roads in good shape. You can't double EV's and expect the grid to keep up without electric rates going through the roof.

There are massive flaws with EV's. Anyone saying otherwise doesn't know anything about the topic. Enjoy the car and the drive, but they're not feasible. It's a novelty. Once EV's are taxed by household and MFT kicks it, the market for EV's will crater. They're unequivocally not green at all by all measures. They're cheap for now on the electric side. They're more expensive out of the gate even with subsidies.

There's no long term future until we build the electric capacity for them. It will take 2 decades to build out nukes at least. If it's allowed. Renewables are trash. Battery storage just raises the price of the cars because of the minerals needed for EV's that are needed in batteries. Reality and what is marketed are two completely different things. I don't like to "try" and time the market, but Tesla could be an easy one to make a shit ton of money on. There's two moves coming and they will 100% happen. Enjoy for now.
4   socal2   @   2023 Dec 15, 9:50am  

WookieMan says

It's not about today. It's about the future. EV's will 100% be more expensive to "fuel" up. You can't lose 5-10% of MFT funds and keeps roads in good shape. You can't double EV's and expect the grid to keep up without electric rates going through the roof.


Yes - there undoubtedly needs major investments in our electric grid and the Government will continue to find ways to tax EV's to support infrastructure improvement (and funding Illinois and other Blue State out of control and bonkers pension system). I don't support the government forcing deadlines or forcing the phase out of ICE right now. Teslas are so good and affordable now, people will come to them naturally like I did. I am no tree hugger. Teslas just make the most sense for me financially and in terms of personal enjoyment.

The base Model 3 (without any incentives) is $38K right now.

The average cost of a new ICE sedan in the US is over $40K.

Tesla is continuing to drive down costs and prices with all of their state of the art manufacturing and automation. Also helps that Tesla doesn't need to spend on advertising or not saddled with unions and 50+ years of pension liabilities.
5   RWSGFY   @   2023 Dec 15, 10:06am  

I think both $1.2 and $17 per gallon claims are bogus. It's highly dependent on the location because electricity prices in the USA can be as low as $0.08 or as high as $0.56 per kWh.

In CA it's cheaper to run a hybrid than a comparable pure EV, even though gas prices are higher then in most of the country, because electricity prices are jacked up even more.
6   MolotovCocktail   @   2023 Dec 15, 10:08am  

socal2 says

I didn't get any subsidies for my Tesla


Uhhhhhhj....right
7   MolotovCocktail   @   2023 Dec 15, 10:10am  

WookieMan says

There's no long term future until we build the electric capacity for them. It will take 2 decades to build out nukes at least. If it's allowed. Renewables are trash. Battery storage just raises the price of the cars because of the minerals needed for EV's that are needed in batteries. Reality and what is marketed are two completely different things. I don't like to "try" and time the market, but Tesla could be an easy one to make a shit ton of money on. There's two moves coming and they will 100% happen. Enjoy for now.


And they don't make sense. For every EV battery pack, 2 - 4 plug in hybrids could be built instead. Way more gasoline could be saved.

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