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2024 where to invest


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2023 Dec 27, 3:15pm   9,533 views  217 comments

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Housing and stocks can crash in 2024.

Gold holds value but no return.

Berkshire may be good investment

Amazon n microsoft keeps monopolizing so they will do well

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49   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2024 Jan 12, 9:01am  

stfu says

Is anybody contemplating any of the new Crypto ETF's


Of course not but I may buy more and put it in cold storage.
50   AD   2024 Jan 12, 12:27pm  

stfu says

Is anybody contemplating any of the new Crypto ETF's (Just 'approved' by the SEC yesterday)?


iShares Bitcoin Trust is down 10.5% right now for the day
51   Patrick   2024 Jan 12, 12:48pm  

I think metal silver in hand is likely to beat inflation in the coming years.

Just a hunch.
52   Eric Holder   2024 Jan 12, 1:18pm  

Patrick says

I think metal silver in hand is likely to beat inflation in the coming years.

Just a hunch.


Before or after tax?

Physical holdings in gold or silver are subject to a capital gains tax equal to your marginal tax rate, up to a maximum of 28%.
53   Patrick   2024 Jan 12, 1:45pm  

Good point.

This is one way that the Fed prevents competition with its fake money.
54   stfu   2024 Jan 12, 1:52pm  

clambo says

I was thrown off Bogleheads and I'm a Vanguard investor since 1992.


C'mon man, you can't just throw that out there and not tell the story ....

You didn't speculate on 2026's IRMMA trigger points, did you :)

The Mod's there are hella strict.
55   clambo   2024 Jan 12, 2:59pm  

I don't recall why I was kicked out of Bogleheads.
Maybe it was about the allocation of stocks and bonds according to age?
Maybe it was about allocation to international or (worse) emerging markets?
I disagree with the "rule" of the ratio of bonds to stocks suggested by Vanguard, for example.
I was bored once and up in Vancouver, so I posted a storm.
I eventually am despised everywhere maybe.
56   Eric Holder   2024 Jan 12, 3:06pm  

clambo says

I eventually am despised everywhere maybe.


We like you here on p.net.
57   Booger   2024 Jan 12, 4:42pm  

Ammo and Yams?
58   AD   2024 Jan 12, 10:40pm  

Booger says


Ammo and Yams?


I would want to be in a place that has adequate water supply and food and away from major population centers. Any currency like dollar bills will be worthless, and silver coins may not be of value given the state of chaos and loss of hope.

Homesteading means survival. That is what survivalist will do, as well as team together in small groups.

https://dnr.alaska.gov/mlw/landsales/

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59   PeopleUnited   2024 Jan 13, 6:10am  

just_passing_through says


After reading thegreattaking.com


The new world order globalists (which are really just Uber wealthy self serving assholes who are influenced or even directed by Satan) are absolutely not going to allow the middle and upper class (Which is most of us on this board) to keep their wealth and freedom.

But I’m not convinced that there are many financial strategies that can shield a middle class person from the the great taking. The only way the ants survive is by working together. Will the ants wake up (like the early American founders did) and realize their colony is run by self serving psychopaths before it is too late? It’s not looking good.
60   stereotomy   2024 Jan 13, 7:13am  

https://financology.net/model-portfolios/

I'm not affiliated, but if you have substantial assets, it behooves you to allocate you're non-fuckyou money to something that has a reasonable chance of maintaining value.
61   Eman   2024 Jan 13, 7:23am  

Talk about F U money. My Federal Reserve buddy looked at a file of someone who has a $700M net worth. $350M was allocated in real estate and $350M in stocks/bonds.
62   clambo   2024 Jan 13, 8:14am  

Eman, how does someone at the Federal Reserve see someone's net worth and assets.

Tip: My Vanguard Variable Annuity is unreported to any government department; it's a contract between me and TransAmerica.

Eat shit Uncle Sam.
63   Robert Sproul   2024 Jan 13, 8:18am  

just_passing_through says

Lots of laws have changed over the past decade to make it easier for the fat fucking cats to do this to us more easily as well.

I am a Certified Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist but I ask why the hell would they, slowly and quietly, make these changes (which I think many [most] are unaware of) if they don't intend, at some point, to TAKE OUR FUCKING MONEY.
64   REpro   2024 Jan 13, 9:19am  

AmericanKulak says

AI?



"Here's a picture of Michele pregnant, you conspiracy theorists!"

Being pregnant at 59th? Looks cool indeed.
65   REpro   2024 Jan 13, 9:53am  

Take advantage of illegals. Buy apartment building and rent by rooms. Perhaps government will pay you. 40%+ return on money.
66   RWSGFY   2024 Jan 13, 10:00am  

ad says

stfu says


Is anybody contemplating any of the new Crypto ETF's (Just 'approved' by the SEC yesterday)?


iShares Bitcoin Trust is down 10.5% right now for the day


Noooooo!
67   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2024 Jan 13, 10:10am  

Eric Holder says


Before or after tax?

Physical holdings in gold or silver are subject to a capital gains tax equal to your marginal tax rate, up to a maximum of 28%.


Before or after premiums?

They are like $5-$7 per $25 silver coin.

Still worth having a smidge though for cannibal anarchy. (and lead .. um coins, yeah that's the ticket)
68   Eman   2024 Jan 13, 10:37am  

clambo says

Eman, how does someone at the Federal Reserve see someone's net worth and assets.

Tip: My Vanguard Variable Annuity is unreported to any government department; it's a contract between me and TransAmerica.

Eat shit Uncle Sam.

The Federal Reserve audit banks on a daily basis….kind of like the Big 4 accounting firms. Reviewing ultra high net worth individuals, who have big loan amounts with the banks, are normal. That’s why there’s a saying “if you owe the bank $1M, it’s your problem, but if you owe the bank $100M, it’s their problem.” The Fed wants the banks to have adequate reserves for all loans they consider “high risk”
69   Eman   2024 Jan 13, 10:42am  

He mostly shares interesting stuff he sees when he reviews files. This is why my lenders are shocked when I talk and negotiate loan terms with them. Certain terms are only being offered to the privilege. Remember how Mark Zuckerberg got 1% mortgage loan with his lender? Yeah, certain things are catered to the ultra rich, not the minions
70   PeopleUnited   2024 Jan 13, 11:18am  

Robert Sproul says

just_passing_through says


Lots of laws have changed over the past decade to make it easier for the fat fucking cats to do this to us more easily as well.

I am a Certified Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist but I ask why the hell would they, slowly and quietly, make these changes (which I think many [most] are unaware of) if they don't intend, at some point, to TAKE OUR FUCKING MONEY.

Exactly. Real Estate, 401k, even cash will be taken by some governmental body “for your own good” of course.
71   PeopleUnited   2024 Jan 13, 11:21am  

gabbar says

Isn't this what we do, discuss on facebook, whatsapp, p.net?

We’ll be identified easily as stray ants and even the other woke ants are/will turn against us. I’m not holding any hope that the ants will realize they have opportunity to secure their wealth and freedom before it is too late. It might already be too late.
72   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2024 Jan 13, 11:38am  

PeopleUnited says

Exactly. Real Estate, 401k, even cash will be taken by some governmental body “for your own good” of course.


I dunno about cash, but all debt based assets. Maybe after they roll out cbdc and ban cash. Harder to steal a paid-for house (raise property taxes sky high would do it), coins/metals and nearly impossible to get at your bitcorn - unless they torture you.

Harder for them to know about the butane tanks you've buried in the woods and the boxes and boxes of refillable cigarette lighters you've stowed away for barter. Weapons, ammo, etc.

Not that I'm setup like that at all... However, I'm going to go fill my gas cans with fresh ethanol free gas today so when the temperature hits 17F here late Sunday (or early Monday) and the power in Texas goes out again for nearly a week I can survive that using my new generator.

It'll be above freezing during the days this week though so we will probably be okay. The 'rain' is scheduled for daytime. It's when things ice up here that we're screwed and everything breaks as easily as The Coaster does in SD when it rains there.
73   SunnyvaleCA   2024 Jan 13, 11:43am  

gabbar says

Is there a bulletproof long term dividend paying stock?

I own some Phillip Morris. I think they have a viable long-term business in the "electric cigarettes" market. My idea is that their profits (and stock price) rise at the rate of inflation while spinning off a 5.5% (and increasing) dividend.
74   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2024 Jan 13, 11:46am  

SunnyvaleCA says

I own some Phillip Morris. I think they have a viable long-term business in the "electric cigarettes" market. My idea is that their profits (and stock price) rise at the rate of inflation while spinning off a 5.5% (and increasing) dividend.


I was swing trading MO (Altria) the past year quite a bit. I beat the dividends by a lot but never received one. The past few months the chart hasn't shown any nice clean entry points though.

For a while though there was a nice easy sine-wave. (trending down)
75   gabbar   2024 Jan 13, 2:21pm  

Anyone familiar with Genpact Limited (Ticket Symbol: G)?
Its was included in Portfolio 1 of Value Line Investment Survey at $41. Current price is $34.
76   PeopleUnited   2024 Jan 13, 2:41pm  

just_passing_through says


I dunno about cash, but all debt based assets. Maybe after they roll out cbdc and ban cash. Harder to steal a paid-for house (raise property taxes sky high would do it), coins/metals and nearly impossible to get at your bitcorn - unless they torture you.

Yes, they will at some point ban cash Transactions. I’m not sure which method(s) they will employ to get people out of their houses/give up their real estate, but real estate will lose its value when people are struggling just to keep warm and fed. Transportation also would become unreasonably expensive or impossible due to fuel prices or availability. Probably utilities become unreasonably expensive or completely inoperable due to various real or false flag events and people are forced to abandon most rural areas unless they are set up to function off grid.

If they really want you out of your house, they will just burn it down like they did in Waco.

When things fall apart it will be sudden and fear/perhaps even significant violence will ensue. There will be pain and death, furthering the despair and loss. There will be propaganda blaming some scapegoat(s) like Hitler did for all the suffering/false flags/shortages. Sooner or later people will beg for “recovery” which will be the great reset.
77   🎂 porkchopXpress   2024 Jan 13, 3:47pm  

clambo says

Tip: My Vanguard Variable Annuity is unreported to any government department; it's a contract between me and TransAmerica.

I'm curious. What's the real advantage of a variable annuity vs living off of stock dividends and other income-related investments? Did you select fixed payments?
78   Robert Sproul   2024 Jan 13, 8:54pm  

PeopleUnited says

I’m not sure which method(s) they will employ to get people out of their houses/give up their real estate

This dude has some explanations of their plans. It of course involves 'decarbonizing' housing.
https://www.igor-chudov.com/p/the-wef-wants-your-house-to-be-worth
I anticipate that most of us will ignore what they are TELLING US THEY ARE PLANNING TO DO, and will be trading stock tips and remodeling our kitchens right up until the point that we ourselves become 'stranded assets' and are completely decarbonized.
79   Robert Sproul   2024 Jan 13, 9:01pm  

REpro says

Take advantage of illegals. Buy apartment building and rent by rooms. Perhaps government will pay you. 40%+ return on money.

"They are turning our country into a shit hole....MIGHT AS WELL MAKE A FEW BUCKS!!"
80   AD   2024 Jan 13, 9:30pm  

Robert Sproul says


REpro says

Take advantage of illegals. Buy apartment building and rent by rooms. Perhaps government will pay you. 40%+ return on money.

"They are turning our country into a shit hole....MIGHT AS WELL MAKE A FEW BUCKS!!"


Yep, like putting a tip jar out while playing music on the sinking Titanic

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81   gabbar   2024 Jan 14, 4:27am  

Eman says

Remember how Mark Zuckerberg got 1% mortgage loan with his lender? Yeah, certain things are catered to the ultra rich, not the minions

A urologist I know performed surgeries on a bank official and he got loans at more favorable terms, these things indeed happen.
82   clambo   2024 Jan 14, 9:14am  

Porkchop express:
Re Variable annuity
I have not yet taken out any payments from my annuity.
Some characteristics are:
1. Nobody knows you own it.
2. Immune from civil judgments.
3. Can change the investments (mutual funds but are called sub accounts) with no tax consequences.
4. Can exchange for a fixed annuity and lock in monthly payments at good rates, which increase if you wait until older.
5. Possible to withdraw without "annuitizing", like a mutual fund.
6. Possible to make your age to "annuitize" age 99.
At the time I bought my variable annuity the IRA limit was just $2000/year.
Today I would suggest just buying Vanguard Tax Managed Capital appreciation fund and forget it for 30 years.
83   🎂 porkchopXpress   2024 Jan 14, 11:43am  

clambo says

Porkchop express:
Re Variable annuity
I have not yet taken out any payments from my annuity.
Some characteristics are:
1. Nobody knows you own it.
2. Immune from civil judgments.
3. Can change the investments (mutual funds but are called sub accounts) with no tax consequences.
4. Can exchange for a fixed annuity and lock in monthly payments at good rates, which increase if you wait until older.
5. Possible to withdraw without "annuitizing", like a mutual fund.
6. Possible to make your age to "annuitize" age 99.
At the time I bought my variable annuity the IRA limit was just $2000/year.
Today I would suggest just buying Vanguard Tax Managed Capital appreciation fund and forget it for 30 years.
Thanks for explaining. I will definitely look into that Vanguard fund.
84   clambo   2024 Jan 14, 12:17pm  

Random post about an investment my friend recently made in La Paz, BCS, Mexico.
She bought 6 apartments and the land of the parking lot for about $240,000 bucks.
She's fixing them up and will probably start renting them at $500 bucks per month; locals can't afford much more.
She can build a few more units on one end of the parking lot.
On an empty piece of the parking lot she'll construct a townhouse for herself.
There is presently high demand for rentals by foreigners who can work remotely; I have met a bunch of them here and there.
Eventually she may decide to rent to a foreign clientele and charge $800/month or so for the places.
She's selling her house which is on the outskirts of town and move eventually to her new townhouse which is only 8 blocks to the ocean front Malecon.
She's Mexican.
85   AD   2024 Jan 14, 3:08pm  

clambo says

She bought 6 apartments and the land of the parking lot for about $240,000 bucks.
She's fixing them up and will probably start renting them at $500 bucks per month; locals can't afford much more.


Clambo, what's cap rate and ROI ? Seems like the annual ROI would be no more than 7%.

Seems like one could just effortlessly invest in Vanguard High Dividend Yield fund.

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86   Booger   2024 Jan 14, 3:32pm  

ad says

Seems like one could just effortlessly invest in Vanguard High Dividend Yield fund.


I've gotten the impression that a lot of people would rather be landlords when they would be better off just buying stocks.
87   RWSGFY   2024 Jan 14, 6:36pm  

Booger says

ad says


Seems like one could just effortlessly invest in Vanguard High Dividend Yield fund.


I've gotten the impression that a lot of people would rather be landlords when they would be better off just buying stocks.


This way they can boast how they "control XX millions in rental
properties" after putting down 3% in downpayment. 🤡 Can't put a price on ego boost, mkay?
88   clambo   2024 Jan 14, 6:52pm  

Ad, you made a good point.
She actually wants to buy a high yield fund with money she gets from a sale of some land with a view of the Pacific Ocean.
Most people in Mexico have no knowledge of funds or how to buy them.
Today foreigners can buy ETFs with Interactive Brokers with no problem.

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