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I forgot to mention after the trial producers from 48 hours and Dateline are going to set up interviews next year for a jury panel.

Guys, this is one of the jurors from Turtledove's trial. You can ask him anything about being on the jury.

What evidence was convincing that he did it?
Lot of pretty gals marry ugly guys. Him being doctor would make it easy for him to get many girls. Looks are temporary n relative. what was his motive?

A motive is not necessary for a conviction. But there was turmoil in the marriage argument that night 3 to 4:00 a.m.

KgK one says

What evidence was convincing that he did it?
Lot of pretty gals marry ugly guys. Him being doctor would make it easy for him to get many girls. Looks are temporary n relative. what was his motive?

Are you joking? Dying from falling down stairs under the age of 50 doesn't happen. Maybe in an extremely rare case that's obvious. I've cracked my head on a table, taken to the ER and was fine. Falling down the stairs doesn't kill the majority of people. It's usually elderly and they sit there and bleed out. There were red flags all over this from the word go.

And who cares about taste in men or women? That's a choice they made that shouldn't result in death. That's what happened here and 12 people agreed.

WookieMan says

KgK one says

What evidence was convincing that he did it?
Lot of pretty gals marry ugly guys. Him being doctor would make it easy for him to get many girls. Looks are temporary n relative. what was his motive?

Are you joking? Dying from falling down stairs under the age of 50 doesn't happen. Maybe in an extremely rare case that's obvious. I've cracked my head on a table, taken to the ER and was fine. Falling down the stairs doesn't kill the majority of people. It's usually elderly and they sit there and bleed out. There were red flags all over this from the word go.

And who cares about taste in men or women? That's a choice they made that shouldn't result in death. That's what happened here and 12 people agreed.

IIRC Turtledove was strangled by her husband, then he staged the "falling down stairs" thing.

Two answers from the juror, emailed to me:

One of the major points was the perfect symmetrical literature strangulation sorry for the misspelling

There was also crime scene upstairs

Guys who are ugly know it.
That doctor was ugly and his wife was hot.
Deep down he knew he would not find another like her; or at least he believed it.
Sometimes guys flip out if the object of their desire wants to leave them.

We all know that a guy who has enough money could find a girl interested in his money, but he wasn't thinking straight at the time.

@Falcons12 was there evidence presented that the perp was in financial worries, and there was insurance involved?

Turmoil at 3 - 4 AM? Was there evidence that the husband had been consuming either alcohol or other substances? Sheesh, strangling one's wife indicates major levels of rage/fear/betrayal. I've been married for many years, and have been very angry at times, but I have never imagined, let alone attempted, to strangle my wife.

It sounds like he was walking wounded from his first marriage, but never took the time to seek help to process his trauma. Deep emotional trauma is a form of PTSD - one is damaged, and it takes time to understand what happened and how that has broken oneself. You wouldn't try to run on a broken leg; why try the family thing again if you're still broken? That doesn't absolve him; rather it highlights that this man was probably a powder keg of rage waiting for the fuse to be lit.

People put themselves in peril when they interact with someone/something but are unaware of how dangerous this interaction can be.

Financial yes some. Insurance was not proved

I'm not sure if you caught a major crime scene upstairs.

No sobriety test of the husband the night of the murder. Toc screen on the wife.

Falcons12 says

I'm not sure if you caught a major crime scene upstairs.

Are you referring to the location of turtledove's strangulation?

No

stereotomy says

Turmoil at 3 - 4 AM? Was there evidence that the husband had been consuming either alcohol or other substances?

At their age they likely would have been out sleeping if they were drinking. Hung out with a buddy in town last night, had some drinks. I was out by midnight.

3-4am probably indicates she was sleeping and he woke up early in a fit of rage for whatever reason. Woke her up and there was a physical interaction in the bedroom. I don't want to be disrespectful to the family, but my guess is he choked her out and tossed her down the stairs. And police would have smelled booze on him. Likely he could self prescribe opioids or narcotics to himself. He could have been on anything. My friends wife was stealing samples at a hospital as a nurse for years. Got fired and needed to go to rehab. Docs and nurses get fucked up.

It seems like a pure psychosis situation on paper or drug use. Something wasn't right in the brain. I've been soooooo pissed at my wife before. You know what, you just walk away from the situation. You cool down and she cools down. This kind of seems premeditated based on what is being stated here. Catch her while she's sleeping. If that's the case, it's psychotic. I fear for the fallout. He was a doctor. Who knows what he did to patients if he did this to his wife.

Again sorry to the family if they lurk on the site. Just looking at the situation and the conviction. Not sure this is closure they wanted, but I wish the kids especially and anyone close the best. This is a messed up situation no one should have to go through.

Patrick says

symmetrical literature strangulation

symmetrical ligature strangulation

Falcons12 says

Falcons12 says

I'm not sure if you caught a major crime scene upstairs.

Are you referring to the location of turtledove's strangulation?
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No

If not the location of strangulation, please tell us about the major crime scene.

There was blood on the end table and at the bottom of the curtain. His blood. Do not know exactly where strangulation took place. But the Blood in the daughter's bedroom where she was sleeping was the elephant in the room.

Holy cow. How did he end up bleeding if he strangled her? Did she cut or bite him?

KgK one says

What evidence was convincing that he did it?

Here's the thing KgK, many DA offices, esp in affluent communities, are not going to launch a full-on prosecution, unless they have a highly feasible conviction on hand. Otherwise, the case would be a character trial of what ppl thought of Dr Sills and whether or not he was capable of murdering his spouse.

This Dr Sills was in effect, reckless, leaving evidence of a struggle and possibly [ I'm speculating here ], even prior domestic abuse (older dried blood from a previous fights, etc), all over his home. And any forensics detective, not just on CSI, can tell the difference between a fall and strangulation. I know that we're looking more and more like a Banana Republic by the year but these things are obvious to those in autopsy dept. I believe that with that in place, any DA would take the initiative to launch a full-on prosecution.

And if all the due process was done correctly, then it's safe to assume that Dr Sills was in fact guilty and will be facing a fair sentencing.

https://www.tiktok.com/@nbcdateline/video/7364798923845684526?_t=8m3QuuwlAv1&_r=1

porkchopXpress says

https://www.tiktok.com/nbcdateline/video/7364798923845684526?_t=8m3QuuwlAv1&_r=1

@porkchopXpress I see only this at that link:

Patrick says

porkchopXpress says

https://www.tiktok.com/nbcdateline/video/7364798923845684526?_t=8m3QuuwlAv1&_r=1

porkchopXpress I see only this at that link:

Sorry. Here is the article and Dateline piece on Turtledove
https://www.nbc.com/nbc-insider/eric-scott-sills-murdered-wife-susann-sills-staged-her-death

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The California fertility doctor was sentenced to 15 years to life in prison for her murder.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/scott-sills-susann-murder-husband-fertility-doctor-rcna150322

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I see that they carefully avoided mentioning patrick.net.

Is there any evidence that "Strategist" was actually an investigator checking Patrick.net out?

@Strategist are you out there?

Onvacation says

Is there any evidence that "Strategist" was actually an investigator checking Patrick.net out?

Strategist are you out there?

Did Strategist use to have a FBI logo for his profile ? I recall there was a Patnet member that did have an FBI logo for their profile.

Maybe Strategist is no longer here because they completed their snooping and investigating ?

But why would law enforcement snoop on Patnet ?

Yes, I recall he did have that logo. And there it is:

https://patrick.net/user/Strategist

Patrick says

Yes, I recall he did have that logo. And there it is:

https://patrick.net/user/Strategist

We can rule out Strategist was motivated to join Patnet as part of investigating Turtle Dove's death.

Strategist started a post in 2015 (the year before Turtle Dove passed away): https://patrick.net/post/1288040/2015-12-30-bill-cosby-charged

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Pretty smart guy, Strategist. Well spoken and I think he agreed with many of us.AD says

But why would law enforcement snoop on Patnet ?

To make sure were just a bunch of nerdy complainers and not a nascent far right terrorist organization.

AD says

Strategist started a post in 2015 (the year before Turtle Dove passed away)

There have been other users here of interest that I've been skeptical of in the past. Might have been from during that time? I know Pat doesn't like talking about other users but Iwog asked to have his entire account removed/wiped. Might not have been TD is all I'm saying. There have been weirdos here as is common with any forum setup.

turtledove says

lostand confused says

I just had a scary thought-what if Turtledove is trigglypuff????

As much as I would love to be the evil genius who could pull that off... I have to ask... Who/what is trigglypuff?

I'm testing out my camera and it appears to be working... I'm all set for the mid-July... AND... I've got my Canes shirt on tonight, so you know I'm super serious.

You could always tell what a nice person she was in her posts.

turtledove says

Strategist says

How about a little appetizer?

Better:

Better Yet

BEST;
Onvacation says

BEST
marcus says