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Justice Department releases transcript of Ghislaine Maxwell interview
Maxwell insists she never witnessed Trump do anything inappropriate. She also told Blanche she does “not believe” Epstein died by suicide.
Prodded further about a client list, Maxwell said: "Absolutely no. There is no list. There is no, I’m not aware of any blackmail. I never heard that. I never saw it, and I never imagined it," Maxwell said. ...
The prosecutors and judge involved in Maxwell's 2021 criminal trial blasted her for being dishonest and failing to accept responsibility for her actions.
“The defendant’s willingness to brazenly lie under oath about her conduct, including some of the conduct charged in the Indictment, strongly suggests her true motive has been and remains to avoid being held accountable for her crimes,” prosecutors wrote in one pretrial motion.
Maxwell, 63, had been held at a low-security facility in Tallahassee, Florida, that housed men and women, but was transferred to a camp in Bryan, Texas, which houses only women. A majority of its inmates are serving time for nonviolent offenses and white-collar crimes.
She's got huge motives to lie and nothing to lose by lying. She's already in prison, so she might be hoping for a pardon, and she doesn't want to end up dead like Jeff either.
The New York Times ran a story this morning headlined, “Maxwell Never Witnessed Trump in ‘Inappropriate Setting,’ Transcript Says.” The sub-headline added, “The transcripts and audio are likely to raise as many questions as they answer.” Spoiler: whatever else it might be worth, it left the Democrats feeling frustrated— with no happy ending.
Yesterday, as he’d promised, DOJ Number Two and former Trump lawyer Todd Blanche released the lightly redacted transcripts and audio from the two-day interview with oceanic explorer, daughter of disgraced British scion Robert Maxwell (who died mysteriously), convicted sex trafficker, and former Epstein Sexretary with Benefits Ghislaine Maxwell. (Epstein, ditto.)
It is a fascinating historical document and, dare I say, tantalizing. It came so close, so many times. Blanche asked all the right questions, but ultimately, there were no bombshells. To his credit, Blanche probed her about nearly everything that anyone would be curious about. His questions were direct and well-framed, if not particularly aggressive.
Now we have Maxwell’s answers.
Unsurprisingly, Maxwell generally denied, or couldn’t remember, or wasn’t involved in, key aspects of the main Epstein theories. She wasn’t aware of any voluntary intelligence contacts (though she waffled on Mossad). She supervised construction of all his luxury properties —including the neo-occult island buildout— but never knew of any video equipment except “normal” security surveillance— although she didn’t deny others were there. She knew nothing about any blackmail operation, not personally, but allowed it could’ve happened. You never know. ...
She admitted the various “massage therapists” she’d hired often gave Epstein and passengers “therapy” in various states of undress. Cagily, she did not deny that “extra services” may have been provided. ...
"He’s a disgusting guy who did terrible things to young kids. You’re not going to hear me say what he did to people who I wasn’t there to see. I didn’t see it. ..."
And also, as a lawyer, when a deposition witness says, “I wasn’t there to see; I didn’t see it,” that’s an evasion. “What I saw” is completely different from what a witness knows or believes using their other senses or from indirect evidence, such as former presidents emerging from the bedroom with their pants off, or the girls dishing about peculiar sausage shapes. ...
It all came so close. She essentially admitted that officials like Summers and Clinton did have sex with Epstein’s underage therapists (“maybe they did something sexual”). But she claimed she hadn’t seen it happen (“I wasn’t in the room.”). And she emphatically —and repeatedly— insisted she never saw anything nonconsensual or forcible (e.g.: “I never saw tears”).
Maybe more useful information will surface if it gets that far, and Blanche presses her. That’s the most tantalizing possibility. For instance, I was aching for him to ask her something like, “Why did you think this international massage connoisseur wanted you to hire inexperienced sixteen-year-old therapists?”
Sadly, this was just a softball proffer interview, and Blanche understandably never challenged her lack of knowledge or the many inconsistencies in her statement.
Oh, and like the rest of us, she doesn’t think Epstein killed himself. So there’s that. She didn’t speculate on why anyone would want to kill him, though. Probably just jealous.
You can read and listen to it yourself on the DOJ’s website at this link.
Maxwell repeatedly tried to minimize Epstein’s ties to the powerful.
She denied that Bill Clinton ever received massages or traveled Epstein’s properties, despite photographic evidence and flight logs placing him alongside the disgraced financier.

https://greeknewsondemand.com/2025/08/23/ghislaine-maxwells-bizarre-claim-epstein-couldnt-rape-girls-because-of-heart-condition/
Maxwell repeatedly tried to minimize Epstein’s ties to the powerful.
She denied that Bill Clinton ever received massages or traveled Epstein’s properties, despite photographic evidence and flight logs placing him alongside the disgraced financier.
The family of Virginia Giuffre today said they were "outraged" after Ghislaine Maxwell was given a "platform to rewrite history" over the Jeffrey Epstein scandal.
The socialite, serving 20 years for supplying girls to disgraced financier Epstein, dismissed claims Prince Andrew had sex with Ms Giuffre, describing the allegation as "bullsh**". In tapes made public by the US Justice Department, Maxwell, 63, said claims Andrew, 65, had sex in her London mews house's bathroom in 2001 were "absurd".
During the two-day-long interview in prison with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche in July, she said: "The bathroom where they claim it happened was so small, you couldn't lie on the floor." Reacting after the transcripts of the interview were released on Friday, Ms Giuffre's family said: "We are outraged. During Blanche's bizarre interview, she is never challenged about her court-proven lies, providing her a platform to rewrite history. ...
Ms Giuffre's family also condemned the Justice Department's decision to transfer Maxwell to a minimum-security prison following her meeting with Blanche. “By moving convicted felon Maxwell to a minimum-security, country club prison, the DOJ sends a disturbing message that child sex trafficking is acceptable and will be rewarded,” the family said.

Epstein watchers! Prepare for more disclosures. Yesterday, a pair of articles painted a very provocative picture. The first ran in Politico, simply headlined “Epstein files land on Capitol Hill.” The sub-headline explained, “Now comes the waiting game as congressional Republicans and the DOJ coordinate on redactions.”
I find it simply incredible how the Epstein scandal has, within a couple months, managed to captivate nearly everyone’s attention. Before Trump’s return, it was mostly a MAGA issue. Now, even Democrats perch on their seats’ edges, obsessively rereading Ghislaine Maxwell’s interview transcript, and waiting impatiently for the next episode to drop.
“The Epstein saga,” Politico drily noted, “has brought together strange bedfellows in Congress.”
One wonders how this could’ve happened accidentally.
Anyway, earlier this month James Comer (R-Ky.), chair of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, subpoenaed Epstein records from DOJ, and DOJ promptly responded, delivering a tranche of records now requiring redaction to remove victims’ identifying information and XXX CSAM content. The Committee has promised to promptly release them once redactions have been made. ...
The second, and arguably even more interesting story appeared in yesterday’s Washington Post, headlined “House Oversight subpoenas Epstein estate, including for any ‘client list.’” The sub-headline explained, “Comer requested ‘any document or record that could be reasonably construed to be a potential list of clients involved in sex, sex acts or sex trafficking” facilitated by Epstein.’”
Now, in 2025, everybody is demanding to see that client list. Last year, Democrats called it a conspiracy theory. Be honest— did you ever see this turnaround coming?
The WaPo article described a new subpoena. This one is directed to Epstein’s estate lawyers, and is due by September 8th. One suspects the international man of mystery’s lawyers might not be as helpful or forthcoming as the DOJ has been. We’ll see.
In addition to any ‘client lists,’ among other things, the Committee demanded that Epstein’s estate attorneys cough up the leather-bound “wishes book” that Ghislaine Maxwell allegedly compiled for Jeffrey’s 50th birthday party. Comer also requested all nondisclosure agreements, the addresses and contacts in Epstein’s “Black Book,” flight logs, bank statements, the September 2007 non-prosecution agreement, and all video and CCTV footage from the plane and Epstein’s various residences.
All those requested documents are potentially explosive.
A dramatic sense of mounting inevitability suffuses the Epstein scandal. Not that long ago, it was the exclusive jurisdiction of conservative firebrands. Now, like an oil slick slowly spreading around a tanker collision, it is oozing far beyond the MAGA perimeter. The long-dormant story now hogs the headlines, soaks social media, and percolates throughout the podcast communities.
House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-KY) has announced that the panel is escalating its investigation into Jeffrey Epstein, issuing a subpoena to the late financier’s estate and demanding extensive records.
Epstein’s estate must hand over multiple documents, including sex trafficker’s call logs and the elusive “client list,” by September 8.
In a Monday letter to attorneys representing Epstein’s estate, Comer outlined the scope of the inquiry:
“The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is reviewing the possible mismanagement of the federal government’s investigation of Mr. Jeffrey Epstein and Ms. Ghislaine Maxwell, the circumstances and subsequent investigations of Mr. Epstein’s death, the operation of sex-trafficking rings and ways for the federal government to effectively combat them, and potential violations of ethics rules related to elected officials.” ...
The subpoena demands a wide array of materials, including:
• Epstein’s will
• Financial transactions
• Call and visitor logs
• All entries in a book compiled by Maxwell for Epstein’s 50th birthday
• “Any document or record that could reasonably be construed to be a potential list of clients involved in sex, sex acts, or sex trafficking facilitated by Mr. Jeffrey Epstein.” ...
With the subpoena of Epstein’s estate, the committee is demanding access to records that could finally shed light on the financier’s network, his associates, and the failures that allowed him to operate for years.

There are several connections between Dubin and Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein invested millions in Dubin's hedge fund and helped JPMorgan acquire Dubin's firm. Epstein had dated Dubin's wife, Eva Andersson, for nearly a decade starting in the 1980s and the Dubins continued to maintain a friendship with Epstein, including after Epstein's arrest for sex trafficking in 2006. In testimony in Virginia Giuffre's 2015 civil suit against Ghislaine Maxwell, Giuffre testified that Maxwell instructed her to "have sex with Glenn Dubin" and others.
In 1987, he met Jeffrey Epstein through a British defense contractor named Douglas Leese...
Leese told Hoffenberg about Epstein: "The guy's a genius, he's great at selling securities. And he has no moral compass." ...
During this period, Hoffenberg and Epstein worked closely together and traveled everywhere on Hoffenberg's private jet. Hoffenberg began using Towers Financial funds to pay off earlier investors and pay for a lavish lifestyle ...
In court documents, Hoffenberg claimed that Epstein was intimately involved in the Ponzi scheme. Epstein left Towers Financial before it collapsed and was never charged for being involved with the massive investor fraud committed. ...
In 2016, Hoffenberg and some of his victims sued Epstein, seeking restitution. He asserted in court that Epstein had been intimately involved in Tower's financial practices and called Epstein the "architect of the scam". In July 2019, following Epstein's arrest on charges of sex trafficking of minors and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking, Hoffenberg again claimed that Epstein was his "uncharged co-conspirator" in the Ponzi scheme.
"In addition to constantly finding underage girls to satisfy their personal desires, Epstein and Maxwell also got girls for Epstein's friends and acquaintances. Epstein specifically told me that the reason for him doing this was so that they would "owe him," they would "be in his pocket," and he would "have something on them." I understood that Epstein thought he could get leniency if he was ever caught doing anything illegal, or that he could escape trouble altogether."
Roberts submitted her declaration in support of a motion to be added as a plaintiff in a suit (ongoing, as of this writing) that sought to overturn a non-prosecution agreement that Jeffrey Epstein would reach with the government. Roberts was seeking to join a case brought against the government by two other victims, but a judge denied her motion in April of 2015, explaining that the case had already been pending for several years, and it was unnecessary to add an additional plaintiff.
For some reason, it's labelled "The Valencia Specialists" now.
For some reason, it's labelled "The Valencia Specialists" now. Seems to be some kind of real estate company. And you can't even do the street view. See how the blue line turns at Travers Way? Huh.




GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's true and I did
5 speak to him and I did ask him if -- oh, and did tell
6 him that I would be very keen to talk to anyone,
7 because no one from the government, at any time, ever
8 in the -- since the inception of the case, so dating
9 back to the early 2000s, has ever spoken to me, and
10 indeed, I believe ever reached out to me at any time
11 to even speak to me. And that includes up to when I
12 was indicted and prosecuted.
18 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know what kind of
19 work Mr. Epstein was doing for Mr. Black over the
20 years?
21 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Same as what he did
22 for Wexner.
The review conducted by Dechert LLP was released on January 25, 2021. It showed that Black had paid Epstein around $158 million from 2012 through 2017 for financial services.[42] Using Epstein's tax avoidance strategies, Black saved at least $1.3 billion in taxes.
Our buddy Benjamin Fulford's take on the real Jizzlaine rather than the Jizzlaine Actress Lite they are trying to flog.
Having read a lot of the first transcript, my conclusion is that Ghislaine is a bullshitter.
First she talks about how she left England partly to escape continuously working on her father's businesses. Then she talks about how after it came out that her father Robert Maxwell defrauded one of his company's pension funds of 100M pounds, she denied ever having anything to do with his businesses.
Also, she admits hiring "masseuses" for Epstein, and knew that he was sexually abusing them, but says the girls all looked 18 to her. She never once asked for ID.
2 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I've never recruited a
3 masseuse from Mar-a-Lago for that, as far as I
4 remember. I can't ever recollect doing that.
7 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So I -- I just -- I
8 think it's really helpful to understand a few things
9 that has been missed in this whole mishigas.
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🚨 BREAKING NEWS: The Jeffrey Epstein Client List is now delayed until at least Jan. 22 after the court grants Jane Doe 107’s request for a 30-day extension claiming a "risk of physical harm in her country."
Yikes. It may never come out. Expect more of this.https://x.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1742380130486321587?s=20
Can't be Gislaine, she's in prison. Who? I'd say Kamala, but she's in DC.