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Epstein List Delayed


               
2024 Jan 2, 7:20pm   54,979 views  1,661 comments

by DemoralizerOfPanicans   follow (9)  

Rudy W. Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
🚨 BREAKING NEWS: The Jeffrey Epstein Client List is now delayed until at least Jan. 22 after the court grants Jane Doe 107’s request for a 30-day extension claiming a "risk of physical harm in her country."

Yikes. It may never come out. Expect more of this.https://x.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1742380130486321587?s=20

Can't be Gislaine, she's in prison. Who? I'd say Kamala, but she's in DC.

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1360   Patrick   2025 Sep 3, 7:28pm  

https://mintpressnews.cn/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/


Then there is the issue of Maxwell’s death, widely cited by mainstream and independent media alike as suspicious and a potential homicide. According to authors Gordon Thomas and Martin Dillon, Maxwell had sealed his own fate when he attempted to threaten top Mossad officials with the exposure of certain operations if they did not help him rescue his media empire from crippling debt and financial difficulties. Many of Maxwell’s creditors, who had grown increasingly displeased with the media mogul, were Israeli and several of them were alleged to be Mossad-connected themselves.

Thomas and Dillon argue in their biography of Maxwell’s life that the Mossad felt that Maxwell had become more of a liability than an asset and killed him on his yacht three months after he demanded the bailout.
1362   Ceffer   2025 Sep 3, 7:47pm  

Patrick says

Almost one year to the day after the “Mega” spy scandal broke, the Wall Street Journal was the first outlet to report on the existence of a little-known organization of billionaires that was “informally” called the Mega Group and had been founded years prior in 1991.

The SPECTRE-plex of fake, coined 'billionaire' executives, given unlimited liquidity and credit by the Rothschilds and City of London to take over market segments and invade politics. The oligarchs aren't 'self made', they are political and financial constructs with marching orders.
1363   Ceffer   2025 Sep 3, 7:58pm  

Life amongst the gangsters. Maxwell double triple quadruple agencied himself to death, trying to outsmart his bosses. They could have bailed him out financially easily, because most of these 'kingdoms' are based on vapor, anyway, and are made to be unraveled with credit needs. Instead of going quietly, Maxwell plundered his employees' retirement funds.
Patrick says

Many of Maxwell’s creditors, who had grown increasingly displeased with the media mogul, were Israeli and several of them were alleged to be Mossad-connected themselves.
1365   Ceffer   2025 Sep 3, 11:18pm  

LOL!

1367   Ceffer   2025 Sep 3, 11:26pm  

"If you don't do what we say, we will release Auntie Lindsay on you in open ass chaps and a tutu."

1368   AD   2025 Sep 3, 11:28pm  

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the elephant in the room or in this case in Epstein's cell block

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#Mossad_allegations;_Vanunu_case

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1369   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 12:55am  

What's the Statute of Limitations on pimping out friends for $200 gift cards?

Don't we charge 16-17 year olds as adults for crimes?
1370   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 12:56am  

Photo Op for the Left.

1371   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 1:01am  

1 epstein victim sold her sister to him.

2 epstein victim sold her friends to him.

The sellers went to the press conference.

The actual victims did not.

Tells you everything you need to know.
https://x.com/0HOUR1__/status/1963321819538092173

Where was this energy during the Xiden Administration?
1372   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2025 Sep 4, 4:48am  

MASSIE: “Survivors at our press conference announced they are privately compiling their own Epstein list.
They would be sued into homelessness for naming names, but @RepMTG and I are willing to name names in the House of Representatives under Constitutional “speech or debate” immunity.”

Source: Thomas Massie (X) @RepThomasMassie
1373   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 4, 9:06am  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

What's the Statute of Limitations on pimping out friends for $200 gift cards?

Don't we charge 16-17 year olds as adults for crimes?


Why isn't the DOJ jumping on the opportunity?
1374   WookieMan   2025 Sep 4, 9:26am  

RWSGFY says

DemoralizerOfPanicans says


What's the Statute of Limitations on pimping out friends for $200 gift cards?

Don't we charge 16-17 year olds as adults for crimes?


Why isn't the DOJ jumping on the opportunity?

Because I don't think (me) there is an opportunity. There's data and evidence over 20 years on this. Stuff happened for sure, but we'll never get names besides flight logs.

Think about it, one door man, maintenance person, boat operator, etc. never assumed or saw anything? I'm talking the blue collar jobs. The cleaner. The IT guy for the supposed cameras. There are so many points of unintentional discovery and not one talked or saw anything?

I think everyone's dreams are going to be dashed by the promise of justice. Epstein is dead. Maxwell talked and said nothing basically. For those hoping for blood and names, I think the mission might be over.
1375   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 9:28am  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

1 epstein victim sold her sister to him.

2 epstein victim sold her friends to him.

The sellers went to the press conference.

The actual victims did not.


Yes, from reading details in "Filthy Rich", it looks like most of the girls were recruited by other girls in a kind of pyramid scheme, with Ghislaine as top madam. There was a sliding payment scale depending on how much the girls allowed Epstein and the others to do. And they were generally poor girls from about 5 miles west of Palm Beach. And their fathers were generally absent or clueless.

But the customers are ultimately to blame for turning teen girls into prostitutes. And it was definitely not just Epstein.

It's still statutory rape.
1376   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 9:30am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

They would be sued into homelessness for naming names


It's all useless without the names.

One clever bit on Epstein's part was in targeting girls who were so young that they simply would not know who most of the guys were.
1377   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 11:33am  

Patrick says

But the customers are ultimately to blame for turning teen girls into prostitutes. And it was definitely not just Epstein.

I disagree. This is the 19th Century Sentimentalism.

While we should and do hold Johns/Drug Addicts culpable, the Recruiters and Participants/Drug Lords are also culpable.
1378   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 11:33am  

Patrick says

One clever bit on Epstein's part was in targeting girls who were so young that they simply would not know who most of the guys were.

Most of them were apparently over the age of consent, and there's some evidence the handful recruited younger than that were told by older girls to lie about their age.

Traci Lords
1379   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 11:37am  

"Filthy Rich" documents that the large majority were under the age of consent.

This is why the Palm Beach police department did such an extensive investigation. Literally at least 450 under the age of consent, all very thoroughly documented because they want to build a very strong case.

The police department evidence was ignored by Kreischer the FL State Attorney, and Epstein was given a ridiculously light sentence which did not even require him to be present in prison during the day.
1380   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 11:38am  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

I disagree. This is the 19th Century Sentimentalism.

While we should and do hold Johns/Drug Addicts culpable, the Recruiters and Participants/Drug Lords are also culpable.


No, the law is very clear that the culpability is entirely with the adults fucking minors.

And the age difference in all cases was truly vast, 50 to 70 year olds fucking 15 year olds.
1381   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 11:40am  

WookieMan says

Think about it, one door man, maintenance person, boat operator, etc. never assumed or saw anything? I'm talking the blue collar jobs. The cleaner. The IT guy for the supposed cameras. There are so many points of unintentional discovery and not one talked or saw anything?


@WookieMan

They all saw and knew what was going on, including the cleaner, the IT guy, the maids, the cooks.

They just wanted to keep getting paid, except for one very Catholic Hispanic maid who couldn't take it and quit.

Again, it's well documented.
1383   Ceffer   2025 Sep 4, 12:31pm  

Incestuous, much? Satanic Ritual Abuse rape of daughters, so that such practices appear 'normal', seem to be a nom de plume of the 'elites'.

1384   WookieMan   2025 Sep 4, 12:49pm  

Patrick says

And their fathers were generally absent or clueless.

Not a knock, but you finally got to the crux of the whole thing. Fatherless kids and this doesn't happen.

This is going to be grotesque. I'm not a criminal. There's nothing stopping me from taking a girl, doing what I want in St. Thomas or St. John, leaving her and coming back home. They'll just stay.

I could fly Southwest and just because she's on the same flight wouldn't incriminate me. I wouldn't give my real name to her. Take her to the Westin on St. John, get her some booze and bang. Wake up at 4am and I'm out.

What Epstein got caught for was the transfer and got the fee. The island was just to keep the girls happy. It didn't happen there. As I've said it's not a nice island and there are way better spots in the USVI and BVI. Maxwell and Epstein just got them down there. House them in casitas (look at sat images) and then pawned/sold them off. Payment was made through his investment fund, so not traceable for sex. No passports. It's sick but probably the most perfect illegal scheme ever concocted. They got caught moving humans against their will. Some were likely better off in the long run, hence limited accusations for supposedly 1k girls.
1386   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 1:34pm  

Patrick says


No, the law is very clear that the culpability is entirely with the adults fucking minors.

No. 16 is the age of consent and prostitutes that age have routinely been charged until 3rd wave feminism.

16-19 year old girls KNOW it's criminal to pimp others out for pay and to get paid for sexual activity.

"Poor Girls" my ass. Palm Beach has plenty of Middle/Upper class people.

Check out Giuffre's earlier 90s police interactions, before she met Epstein/Maxwell. Pattern already
1388   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 2:34pm  

The_Deplorable says






This whole thing is mostly an op.

Desperate Dems and the Koch Bros Right are working together because they get traction to divide the right on this issue, and hopefully defame some big Donors that are going along with America First MAGA (the Trump original, not the Qatar version).

There's no Trump or Dersh connection, but they hopefully can smear some donors.

You want Tariffs, Border Security, and MAGA, or do you want Free Trade, Mass Migration, and a few Middle Aged Skanks getting a payday for being skanks who recruited other skanks in their teens?
1389   WookieMan   2025 Sep 4, 4:23pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

You want Tariffs, Border Security, and MAGA, or do you want Free Trade, Mass Migration, and a few Middle Aged Skanks getting a payday for being skanks who recruited other skanks in their teens?

You're talking to walls. Trump did make a mistake with Epstein files, but I really don't think people understand everything. We have 3-5 victims out of thousands all a sudden. Single digits. No, they couldn't be looking to make a buck off this or their attorney from the estate? That's never happened before...

This isn't last year. This is 20+ years people. Epstein was in jail in the early 2000's. "Ah we got'em, no further investigation needed." Oh wait he was put back in prison in the late 2010's. 2019. That's already 6 years ago. I will admittedly eat shit if I'm wrong, But I don't think there is anything there so to speak. While disgusting, there are way worse crimes than sex with a 14 year old. I mean people kill other people, that should be a priority. Ultimately child sex abuse is on the parents at the end of the day. Watch and care for your kid.
1390   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 4, 4:55pm  

Ceffer says


Incestuous, much? Satanic Ritual Abuse rape of daughters, so that such practices appear 'normal', seem to be a nom de plume of the 'elites'.




How did we jump from
"no shoes on my carpet"* to "incestous"?

*) no matter how do we feel about the whole carpeted yacht idea :barf:
1391   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 5:01pm  

WookieMan says


Ultimately child sex abuse is on the parents at the end of the day. Watch and care for your kid.

Yep. That Giuffre police report, people should read it.

In 2001, Giuffre was 18 years old. She ran away repeatedly in her early teens, years before Epstein, was caught in the backseat as early as 14 with local guys smoking weed, she also was an escort and lived with an Eppinger who ran "Perfect 10" model agency.

Like most dumb Girldads, her father helped get her a job at the Mar-A-Lago but wouldn't believe his little girl was probably well over 50 bodies by 18
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59974220

Females have NO problem trading sex for goodies, 100k years of evolution to trade nookie for coconuts or fresh pork, which is why it's dumb to buy the cow.

Heed the wisdom of the Steel Panther:
https://youtu.be/bkV0M1qbkcw?t=167
1392   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 5:34pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says


No. 16 is the age of consent and prostitutes that age have routinely been charged until 3rd wave feminism.


It's 18 for this case:


In Florida, the age of consent is 18 years old. This means that individuals under 18 are generally deemed incapable of giving valid consent to sexual activities.

However, there is a close-in-age exemption, also known as the "Romeo and Juliet law," which allows minors aged 16 or 17 to engage in sexual intercourse with a partner no older than 23.


But Epstein and all his clients were in their 50's at least.
1393   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 5:36pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

"Poor Girls" my ass. Palm Beach has plenty of Middle/Upper class people.


Yes, Palm Beach does have rich people, but almost all the girls were from high schools in poorer neighborhoods about 5 miles west of Palm Beach.
1394   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 5:39pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says


This whole thing is mostly an op.


I'm 110% certain it's not an op. The more I read the more obvious it is that Epstein was personally the very center of corruption in America. Massive tax evasion via Epstein most of all.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says


Desperate Dems and the Koch Bros Right are working together because they get traction to divide the right on this issue


Maybe so, but it's going to take big Dems down too, especially Bills Clinton and Gates.
1395   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 5:48pm  

Patrick says


Maybe so, but it's going to take big Dems down too, especially Bills Clinton and Gates.

The Gates Family didn't donate to Massie to incriminate themselves

What's great about it is that it's unfalsifiable. No videos? They're hiding the videos! No List? They destroyed the list!
1396   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 5:48pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

There's no Trump or Dersh connection, but they hopefully can smear some donors.

You want Tariffs, Border Security, and MAGA, or do you want Free Trade, Mass Migration, and a few Middle Aged Skanks getting a payday for being skanks who recruited other skanks in their teens?


How can you say there's no Trump or Dershowitz connection when they were literally his closest friends?

Trump had the good sense to dump Epstein when it became too obvious what Epstein was up to with the girls, and I'd bet Trump never slept with any, but I'm not so sure he didn't take advantage of Epstein's "financial advice".

Now that I read more, I'm pretty sure Dershowitz was not quite as smart as Trump about it.

I want it all: tariffs, deportations, peace in Ukraine, AND the prosecution of all the criminal activity facilitated by Epstein.

It wasn't just a few girls, it was hundreds at least, and:


2006 Grand Jury Transcripts: Released in 2024, these transcripts confirmed Epstein raped girls as young as 14, with testimony indicating that the majority of victims recruited for “massages” were high school students (typically 14–17).
1397   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 5:49pm  

Patrick says

How can you say there's no Trump or Dershowitz connection when they were literally his closest friends?

Trump was not a close friend of Epstein and banned him from the Mar-A-Lago before he was ever arrested, for perving on Guests.

Dersh was Epstein's lawyer.
1398   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 5:50pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

That Giuffre police report, people should read it.


Legally irrelevant. Still statutory rape and trafficking.
1399   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 5:52pm  

Patrick says


Legally irrelevant. Still statutory rape and trafficking.

She was smoking weed and playing around with teenage dudes in a car. She blamed them for taking advantage of her. I guarantee she invited herself to go along with them. The police weren't buying her victim story. Her mom blamed demons.

Doesn't explain how she ended up with Eppinger, a "Perfect 10" escort model agency organizer and lived with him for months, again before she ever knew Epstein or Maxwell.

Why did her lawyers never call her to the stand, in all her cases?

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