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Epstein List Delayed


               
2024 Jan 2, 7:20pm   54,972 views  1,661 comments

by DemoralizerOfPanicans   follow (9)  

Rudy W. Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
🚨 BREAKING NEWS: The Jeffrey Epstein Client List is now delayed until at least Jan. 22 after the court grants Jane Doe 107’s request for a 30-day extension claiming a "risk of physical harm in her country."

Yikes. It may never come out. Expect more of this.https://x.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1742380130486321587?s=20

Can't be Gislaine, she's in prison. Who? I'd say Kamala, but she's in DC.

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1400   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 5:54pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says


Trump was not a close friend of Epstein and banned him from the Mar-A-Lago before he was ever arrested, for perving on Guests.

Dersh was Epstein's lawyer.


Trump and Epstein were very close for at least 15 years before Trump figured things out.

Some reasons for the split:
- Trump visiting Epstein's place in Palm Beach and noticing all the underage girls at his pool.
- Ghislaine recruiting Virginia Giuffre from her job as coat check girl at Mar-a-Lago.
- Trump and Epstein both trying to buy "Maison de l’Amitie" in Palm Beach, bidding against each other. (ironic name now that I think about it)

Dersh was indeed Epstein's lawyer and knew all the details when getting Epstein that ridiculously light first sentence in optional-attendance "prison".
1401   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 5:59pm  

Grok:


Giuffre did not testify in person in her civil lawsuits against Prince Andrew or Alan Dershowitz because both cases were settled out of court before reaching trial.

Prosecutors likely chose not to call Giuffre to keep the case focused and avoid complications from her broader allegations. Giuffre’s claims involved high-profile figures like Prince Andrew, Alan Dershowitz, and others, spanning multiple jurisdictions (Florida, New York, London, the U.S. Virgin Islands). Including her testimony could have introduced complex narratives, additional actors, and international elements, potentially muddying the prosecution’s narrative against Maxwell.


I bet they didn't want her naming names and explicit activities of anyone but Maxwell. Maxwell became the scapegoat for all of it, though she is definitely guilty as well.
1402   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 6:01pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

What's great about it is that it's unfalsifiable.


The FBI could release all the evidence that they have, but they refuse to.

This is why Bongino quit, imho. They got him back, but pretty sure he's disgusted with the ongoing coverup.
1403   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 6:02pm  

Patrick says


Dersh was indeed Epstein's lawyer and knew all the details when getting Epstein that ridiculously light first sentence in optional-attendance "prison".

Dersh has said Epstein had various VIPs at his Island and handled their wealth. However, he also said no evidence he saw indicated anything illegal happened (and as the lawyer he could see all the evidence), but it was embarrassing. I have a feeling VIPs took their male and female lovers ("Secretaries" "Personal Assistants" "Marketing Directors") to the Island and Townhouse, where they are on video, something their colleagues and wives and co-investors (due to their bad judgement and vulnerability to blackmail) would not appreciate.

Trump's ban on Epstein were due to reports from managers and employees about guests/workers being harassed by Epstein.

Giuffre got the job in the locker room (not as a masseuse) from her Father who was employed there.

Giuffre was almost certainly trading favors for money, since she held other jobs (CCI, Mannino's, etc.) simultaneously.

Heh, I wonder if my Grandma was ever served by Giuffre, she loved Mannino's.
1404   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 6:05pm  

I think the sex things were mostly at Palm Beach and the tax evasion things were at the Island, because it's in the US Virgin Islands and Epstein had the ability to "fix" financial records there, since the officials in USVI were easy to bribe and regulation is lax.
1405   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 6:07pm  

Patrick says


The FBI could release all the evidence that they have, but they refuse to.

Only if it's criminal wrongdoing. If it's banging their secretary or 'social media manager' they brought with them instead of their wife, no.

If a big GOP donor was taking some adult office assistant of his to bang on Lolita Island, that's nobody's business. Not illegal.
1406   Misc   2025 Sep 5, 2:06am  

Wasn't the lawyer for the victim's mother the one that was promising big bucks for women to come forward to accuse Trump of assaulting them in the 2016 election?

It's been what ???? 30-40 years now. If the victims' lawyer didn't have the girls write down the perps' names yet, I mean WTF ???

Basically, we cannot trust any "List" the 'victims' come up with this far out.

They've already been paid $121 million to about 150 claimants
1407   WookieMan   2025 Sep 5, 3:25am  

Misc says

It's been what ???? 30-40 years now. If the victims' lawyer didn't have the girls write down the perps' names yet, I mean WTF ???

Basically, we cannot trust any "List" the 'victims' come up with this far out.

Bingo. I won't write a novel this time, self explanatory.
1408   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 5, 8:08am  

If this shit is basically nothingburger why did Trump ran so heavily on it? Did he fell again into "fuck research and expersts, lets go all in on feelz"? A fucking pattern is fucking emerging.
1409   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 5, 11:27am  

Epstein-Trump is the new Russia, Russia, Russia

1410   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 5, 11:30am  

But during an NBC panel discussion with a group of survivors on Tuesday, none of the women said they ever saw or heard of Trump doing anything inappropriate relating to Epstein.
...
"It's shameful this has been called a hoax. This is not a hoax," Massie said. "There are real victims to this criminal enterprise and the perpetrators are being protected because they are rich and powerful."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yvpgyjed8o

It's a hoax. The Massie mentioned Epstein in Early 2024 - when DeSantis was in the Primary. And he's banging Pushaw and beholden to Club For Growth and Koch Bros. Exec donors that hate tariffs and illegal employment enforcement
1411   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 5, 11:36am  

Misc says

Wasn't the lawyer for the victim's mother the one that was promising big bucks for women to come forward to accuse Trump of assaulting them in the 2016 election?

David Boies is deeply involved as a Democrat Lawfare Attack Dog, going back to the Gore-Bush election controversy.

They want a list of unredacted names as plausible cover for accusing whomever is there. It's a money grab:

"Release the names, so we know who we can sue, then make money when they settled out of court to spare themselves a huge legal bill and their name constantly in the press during the process, and finally smear by association anybody listed that is/was a GOP/Trump donor"

If those listed aren't criminal suspects, their names SHOULD be withheld.
1412   WookieMan   2025 Sep 5, 12:24pm  

RWSGFY says

If this shit is basically nothingburger why did Trump ran so heavily on it? Did he fell again into "fuck research and expersts, lets go all in on feelz"? A fucking pattern is fucking emerging.

I don't know why he ran on it. Trump didn't like him with obvious evidence kicking him out of Mar A Lago. I just don't think he had evidence from the FBI at the time. Epstein died or whatever in 2019. Covid hit. Epstein was the least of his worries. 2024-2028 term might be different, but the issue might be number 25 on a big lists of goals.

Other fact is women tend to keep quiet with sexual encounters. But this is a huge news story. It is unlikely they were violently raped. The victims would be coming out of the wood work. They're not. It was likely semi consensual. What do you think the payday would be for a victim to get Clinton convicted or settle? You're talking 7 and maybe 8 figures. The victims are dead or consented to the encounter and were paid. If they were forcibly raped they'd have come out already.
1413   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 5, 12:31pm  

WookieMan says

I don't know why he ran on it. Trump didn't like him with obvious evidence kicking him out of Mar A Lago. I just don't think he had evidence from the FBI at the time. Epstein died or whatever in 2019. Covid hit. Epstein was the least of his worries. 2024-2028 term might be different, but the issue might be number 25 on a big lists of goals.

Part of his openness policy.

The problem is, the Democrats and Anti-MAGA forces are trying to force the Admin to release unredacted and non-criminal information they can use to smear Trump or Trump donors. Plus give lawyers a settlement pay day by threatening those mentioned with a long lawsuit.
1414   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 5, 12:39pm  

Check out the bot comments by < 200 follower accounts, many claiming to be "America First"... Epstein, Epstein, Epstein/Russia, Russia, Russia.

https://x.com/CommerceGov/status/1963949761968410790

This is a psyop to distract from MAGA victories and the MAGA agenda.
1416   Ceffer   2025 Sep 5, 3:00pm  

Epstein isn't a hoax. However, the parts of the regenerated scandal that AREN'T a hoax will never come to light with anything resembling forensic force. It's the Gordian Knot of official flummoxing and evasion for too many years.

Anything revealing the monstrosity of the deep dive will leave too many in the populace squealing and diving for the denial exits. It's not as simple as routing out a few dynastic and political perverts who have been operating that way for thousands of years, and continue to do so. They don't consider these crimes. They regard them as club/secret handshake affiliations and badges of honored political privilege and social status. Their perversions also designate their internal hierarchy/leadership ladders. They are closed circles and they don't give a shit about the rest of the lowly plebs.

By the way, Aug. 31 was "Rothschild Gang Rape The Female Hired Help Wearing Demonic Masks" day. Those half breed bloodlines from the rapes come in handy as future Satanic Ritual Abuse and Tavistock Deconstructed leaders.
1417   AD   2025 Sep 5, 3:39pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Democrats and Anti-MAGA forces


same Democrats think Harvey Weinstein was only indicted because of antisemitism

so they'll try to claim any info released from the Epstein files involving Ehud Barak, Mossad and its shell companies, Deep State shenanigans is all a hoax and distraction

.
1418   Ceffer   2025 Sep 5, 5:20pm  

LOL!

1419   Ceffer   2025 Sep 5, 5:42pm  

Free DNA UV lamp to light up the bodily fluids of at least a hundred underage girls.





1420   RayAmerica   2025 Sep 5, 6:15pm  

Seems like a mighty expensive and totally unfair 'hoax.' I mean, Gislaine Maxwell is sitting in prison for this hoax. Jeffrey Epstein was suicided while awaiting trial for this hoax. And an awful lot of money has been paid out for this hoax. Here's just one example:

According to the UK Daily Telegraph, Prince Andrew, aka, the Duke of York, paid out a whopping $16.3 MILLION to Virginia Giuffre in an out of court settlement. Even the Queen of England stepped up to the plate and made a $2 MILLION donation to Giuffre's charity designed to help sex trafficking victims. Giuffre's sex abuse case was set to go to trial when the battered, guilty Epstein pedo-friend Prince and the Royal Family decided to settle.

Now why did they choose to settle if the Prince was so innocent, as he claimed? Why? Because the pedo-Prince (and Queen) knew that he was guilty as sin and that his trial was going to open up the entire Epstein political blackmail operation. It was also going to expose an awful lot of very powerful people. And, it was going to expose the connection to that little nation in the Middle East that stood to benefit most from having material that would be used as a means to guarantee support from very, very powerful people.
1421   RayAmerica   2025 Sep 5, 6:22pm  

It's the Democrats playing the Russia, Russia, Russia card as in Epstein, Epstein, Epstein??? Really?

Trump proved that Russia was a true hoax by releasing the facts and evidence and the Democrats have been losing ground ever since.

IF Epstein, et all, is also a hoax, why not use the exact same strategy by releasing ALL files, videos, depositions, etc. to the public. By doing so, that will
make the Democrats look really, really bad ... won't it?

IF there is nothing to hide and it's all a hoax, what is preventing the Justice Department from releasing everything that they have? What possible reason could they have for not doing exactly that?
1422   Patrick   2025 Sep 5, 6:37pm  

Misc says

It's been what ???? 30-40 years now


Epstein was still abusing underage girls in 2018, only 7 years ago.
1423   Patrick   2025 Sep 5, 6:41pm  

WookieMan says

It is unlikely they were violently raped.


I agree. From "Filthy Rich" and other stuff I read, it was really just about luring girls as young as 13 into prostitution by dangling money (and other things) in front of them.

Though there were a couple of cases where girls claimed he got violent, and that Ghislaine was in on that too, forcing herself on the girls sexually, though I'm not sure exactly how.
1424   Patrick   2025 Sep 5, 6:45pm  

RayAmerica says

IF there is nothing to hide and it's all a hoax, what is preventing the Justice Department from releasing everything that they have?


@RayAmerica

I think what's preventing true transparency is that:

1. It would make Israel look bad.
2. It would implicate a lot of very rich Americans on both sides of the aisle, both for sex crimes and for massive tax evasion.
3. The unknown unknowns, whatever they might be.
1425   Ceffer   2025 Sep 5, 6:50pm  

Yes, the tax evasion angle is interesting.

Trump plays the Left like a fiddle. They are going to destroy the credibility of the 'victims' with their usual cacophony of madness.

1427   WookieMan   2025 Sep 5, 7:16pm  

RayAmerica says

Seems like a mighty expensive and totally unfair 'hoax.' I mean, Gislaine Maxwell is sitting in prison for this hoax. Jeffrey Epstein was suicided while awaiting trial for this hoax. And an awful lot of money has been paid out for this hoax. Here's just one example:

When Trump said hoax he was talking about himself. Accusations have been made he was somehow involved with Epstein. I've known people that have raped girls. Tax evaders. Does that make me one? Nope. That's what he means by hoax. We all have met or known bad people.

He's saying the "files" release has nothing to do with HIS involvement and that it's a hoax. It's been repeatedly reported that everything has been delayed because Trump has a problem with it. That's the hoax. I swear people don't read anymore.
1428   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 5, 7:32pm  

Looks like Donnie is prone to believing total clowns who confidently talk about things they have no real knowledge about and whose only qualification are playing golf/kissing ass/repeating his words back to him.

Witkoff, Patel, Navarro, Hegseth... the list is longer than my arm.
1429   PeopleUnited   2025 Sep 5, 8:57pm  

RayAmerica says


what is preventing the Justice Department from releasing everything that they have? What possible reason could they have for not doing exactly that?


They contain child porn, names of victims of sex trafficking who now have families of their own and don’t necessarily want to relive the embarrassment, and they may even implicate the CIA or other government agencies and agents who clearly allowed this guy to break laws for decades with impunity. So the government is probably protecting the victims, and perhaps even protecting the government itself by not disclosing the information on the trafficking scam. Plus as Patrick notes there are likely financial crimes as well that the government turned a blind eye to, or perhaps even benefited from. It is said that the CIA makes its own money through various criminal enterprises.

It is quite possible that if Americans knew they real truth about Epstein, there would be a total loss of faith in the rule of law and it would shatter the facade that our government protects citizens and seeks justice for all. Or it could discredit America in the world stage, or expose the CIA tactics.

I’m also open to the possibility that the whole ruse here is about getting Dems to call for the release of the files is so that when the details do come out they get the blame for the embarrassment of exposing the fact that our government allowed if not enacted the Epstein/intelligence/financial crime operation.
1431   Patrick   2025 Sep 6, 2:25pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/the-snitch-saturday-september-6-2025


Yesterday, the UK Independent ran the week’s most astonishing news below the headline, “Donald Trump was an FBI ‘informant’ on Jeffrey Epstein, Republican Mike Johnson claims.” Well. Speaker Johnson didn’t exactly claim it. It was more like he let it slip out, possibly accidentally. Narrative whiplash ensued.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-informant-fbi-b2821406.html

“When President Trump first heard the rumor, he kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago,” an animated Johnson told reporters. Then: “He was an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down.”

It would explain a lot.

In 2005, Trump famously banned Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago club. A year later, Epstein was arrested in South Florida. Obama’s FBI gave him a wrist slap. Then nothing happened till Trump came into office in 2017, when —only three weeks after the Inauguration— he signed an executive order targeting “Transnational criminal trafficking.”

In 2019, Trump’s DOJ arrested Epstein, seized his island, and threw him in jail. Epstein literally died in prison.

The next year, in 2020, Trump’s DOJ arrested Ghislaine Maxwell, and gave her 20 years for crimes against kids. In 2018, Epstein victims’ lawyer Bradley Edwards said President Trump was the only prominent figure who voluntarily cooperated with their lawsuits since 2009, providing what the lawyer described as “very helpful information.”

Lawyer Edwards said —again, in 2018, after nine years on the case— that there was “no sign” Trump had been involved in any of Epstein’s crimes.

The victims have sued JPMorgan Chase (settled for $290 million), Deutsche Bank (settled for $75 million), Prince Andrew (settled confidentially in 2022), and even Epstein’s attorney Alan Dershowitz (litigated for years). But they have never sued Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, during eight years of Obama and four years of Biden, Democrats were mute about Epstein. They certainly never produced or even hinted at any connection to Trump. No subpoenas, no exposés, no whispered leaks.
1432   Ceffer   2025 Sep 6, 3:15pm  

"Any slander we need can be manufactured and amplified. We don't need no stinkin' reality. Hail Satan!"
1434   Patrick   2025 Sep 8, 10:30am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/tripping-up-monday-september-8-2025


The top of the New York Times’s website featured a fascinating pivot in the paper’s Epstein coverage headlined, “How JPMorgan Enabled the Crimes of Jeffrey Epstein.” It’s especially weird, since this new focus premiered mere days after Speaker Johnson hinted that Trump might have helped the FBI nail the prolific pedophile. Look! A squirrel! In the bank! ...

It’s also the story of how a lot of big money is actually pretty shady— and bankers have grown too accustomed to it.

None of it is new; the story claims only to have boiled the whole thing down in one place for the first time. Everyone already knows the bank’s hands were somewhat dirty: JPMorgan paid victims an eye-watering $260 million and the Virgin Islands another $75 million in settlement of their claims. At least one top bank official, Les Staley, who supervised Epstein’s accounts and frequently visited pedo island, was terminated with prejudice.

The most damning fact, which probably led to those generous settlements, was this: “At Epstein’s behest,” the Gray Lady dished, “JPMorgan set up accounts — into which he routinely transferred huge sums — for young women who turned out to be victims of his sex-trafficking operations.” Well-compensated victims, but still. ...

For this morning, I’d like to focus on what was remarkably missing from the article.

The sprawling piece mentioned many of Epstein’s relationships, with well-known names like Sergey Brin, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Leon Black, Ehud Barak, Netanyahu, and others. The Times also explained Epstein’s usefulness to bankers as a “collector of important people,” for mutual legitimacy, celebrity and regulatory contacts, and even helping the bank from time to time with mergers and acquisitions. ...

But despite all the article’s name-dropping, and despite its making the specific point that Epstein collected VIPs, there was one particular name that was missing from the list, AWOL, nowhere to be found, not among any of the 20,000+ words: the name of Donald J. Trump.

It’s so curious. Nothing in the Times’ blockbuster article was “new.” The paper said it had reviewed tens of thousands of pages disclosed during the 2023-2024 lawsuits filed against JPMorgan by the victims and the Virgin Islands. Therefore, it could have been published this story last year or anytime this year.

So, why now? ...

Maybe the reason is that last week, Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) purposely (or accidentally) mentioned Trump’s role as an FBI informant against Epstein. (On Sunday, WaPo reported that Johnson has ‘backed off’ the claim.) I’d bet two Teslas that the Times frantically checked that out, called its sources, and didn’t like whatever it discovered. Hold up, guys, this story might not make Trump look like a horny goat, but like the G.O.A.T.
1435   Patrick   2025 Sep 9, 10:18am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/enigmatic-tuesday-september-9-2025


Yesterday, a newly invigorated New York Times ran a triumphant story headlined, “House Democrats Release Epstein’s Birthday Letter Apparently Signed by Trump.”

Trump flat denies it. Yesterday, the White House said, again, that the image was not created by the President. “As I have said all along, it’s very clear President Trump did not draw this picture, and he did not sign it,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt posted on X.

When the “note” first appeared after a DOJ “leak,” Trump posted, “The supposed letter they printed by President Trump to Epstein was a FAKE.” He has hinted that Biden’s DOJ put a lot of “garbage” in the Epstein file. President Trump also sued the Wall Street Journal silly over the story, which would be a strange bit of brinksmanship if he knew the note was legit.

The bizarre note bears no resemblance to anything Trump has ever written. It looks more like something two stoned staffers worked up, giggling like Beavis the whole time.

Let’s take a single example. Trump’s language style is typically simple, direct, and usually Anglo-Saxon. In other words, he tends to use short, common words and straightforward idioms, both in speech and in his personal correspondence.

Voice Over:
There must be more to life than having everything.
Donald
Yes. there is, but I won't tell you what it is.
Jeffrey
Nor will I, since I also know what it is.
Donald
We have certain things in common, Jeffrey.
Jeffrey
Yes, we do, come 10 think of it.
Donald
Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?
Jeffrey
As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time saw you.
Donsid
A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday- and may every day be another
wonderful secret
Donaid J. Trump

But the word enigma is snooty, formal, literary, and Latinate (Portlanders: from a Latin root), in stark contrast with Trump’s well-known plain-talking style. Fact-checkers have pointed out that “enigma” cannot be found in the thousands of letters or public statements attributed to Trump, making its appearance in this note a puzzling outlier. (“Enigma” did appear, once each, in two of Trump’s less-well-known books; but both were almost certainly ghost-written.)

Most of all, the real enigma is why Trump would refer to himself as an ‘enigma,’ which is the opposite of brash and plain-spoken. ...

Beyond the stylistic issues, other problems with the note remain. Trump starkly denies it, he’s sued the Journal for billions, it includes strange, non-Trumpian elements, it comes without any chain of custody, and it has never appeared before now. Nobody (except possibly Epstein’s estate and House Committee members) has ever seen the original. The text appears degraded, as if by multiple layers of copying, but the scribble isn’t degraded. In other words, was the ‘drawing’ part added later?

All these arguments are red meat for the media, which is debating them with its entire arsenal of multimedia weapons, but the overlooked elephant in the outhouse is that, even if Trump did write it, the letter doesn’t actually say anything incriminating. To intuit that Trump somehow winked at shared criminal conduct —the kind that carries a life sentence— is a heavy lift. At worst, it’s bawdy and gross. But it was also a private letter, so where on Earth can you be bawdy and gross if not in private?

Finally, the scribble dates to a 2003 birthday book, which is several years before the timeline suggests Trump found out about Epstein’s conduct and banned the enigmatic mystery man from Mar-a-Lago. So … what does it prove, even if authentic? ...

What I find most interesting about this news is that the same day the Times tried to pivot to JPMorgan in a 20,000-word opus, and the Trump-Epstein story was fading away, the House Committee coughed up another copy of the birthday scribble to re-energize the media hysteria. Unless we think the House is working against Trump —and all the evidence points the other way— it seems like Trump wants the controversy to continue. Which is classic Trump media strategy.

In an awe-inspiring sense, this new, constant media drumbeat about Epstein is a kind of miracle. For years, journalists, activists, and researchers struggled to draw serious, sustained media attention to Epstein’s network and abuses. Corporate media ignored leads and buried stories. Yet now, thanks to DoodleGate, Epstein is everywhere.

How do you get the media to fully explore the Epstein story? Just. Like. This.
1436   Eric Holder   2025 Sep 9, 12:27pm  

Soo, any dirt on Bill Gates? Shall we consider him exonerated? Have he used the word "enigma" ever?
1437   Patrick   2025 Sep 9, 1:11pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/congressional-investigators-release-bill-clintons-letter-epstein/


The House Oversight Committee has released another tranche of Jeffrey Epstein-related documents, including a message from former President Bill Clinton in the disgraced financier’s infamous “birthday book.”

The surprise Monday night dump came hours after Epstein’s estate turned materials over to investigators in response to a congressional subpoena. ...

The former president’s friendly relationship with Epstein is well-documented, including multiple trips on Epstein’s plane. ...

Other parts of the book veered into the bizarre and suggestive.

It included dozens of childhood photos, topless or censored images of Maxwell, shirtless shots of Epstein, and bikini-clad women leaving notes about visits to Palm Beach.

Animal mating pictures and even a cartoon about “thinking less about money and more about naked women” also appeared in the pages.

One entry, written as a joke, appeared under attorney Alan Dershowitz’s name, claiming he had convinced Vanity Fair to change an article’s focus from Epstein to Clinton.

Dershowitz has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing in connection with Epstein. Another caption suggested Epstein was working for the CIA, accompanying a photo of him with a redacted woman.


Would be nice if they had the whole Clinton letter in the article, but no.
1438   Patrick   2025 Sep 9, 2:04pm  

https://rudy.substack.com/p/women-and-children-first


Peter McCormack: “One day [Robert Maxwell’s] body is found in the ocean. Another suspicious death.”

Whitney Webb: “Yeah. Ghislaine thinks it was rogue Mossad agents and Sicilian mafia hitman that killed him.”

McCormack: “Together?”

Webb: “Working together. That's kind of the thesis of my book.” ...

“Basically what I argue in my book is that the network behind Epstein, and the reason why there's so many powerful people in this group is because it's born out of this union that occurred during World War II between organized crime and the U.S. intelligence apparatus.”

"We're never going to get an affidavit from the CIA like, "Yes, we did bad things." We've known they've done bad things in various decades. It's been very documented, and they won't admit to bad things there in almost every one of those cases. So you're not going to get that about Epstein or about anybody else."

“If I say Epstein had a relationship with people, I'm not saying they had a sex blackmail relationship necessarily. What we're trying to untangle here is the truth of who Epstein was, and why was he taken down - because I don't think he was taken down because in 2019 all of a sudden the US government became outraged about the sweetheart deal of 2007, 12 years after the fact, and then wanted to rectify some wrong. I think it was about something else.”

“Apollo Global Management is [Leon Black’s] firm that he funded with other ex-Drexel people, and his crimes with Epstein were investigated by an internal group at Apollo that exonerated him. One of the lead authors on that is a guy named Alvin Buzzy Krongard, who used to be executive director of the CIA and is one of the main suspects in 9/11 insider trading. It's a meta cartel.”

“There's a lot of weird stuff with Epstein, for example, in the 2008 financial crisis that hasn't been appropriately investigated which was, you know, in essence a huge wealth transfer from the bottom 99% to the top 1%, and of course Epstein was a major banker for the top 1%. He basically was the pin that popped Bear Sterns, and then Bear Stearns is absorbed by Epstein's new bank, JP Morgan.”

“As my books show, if you go as deep as I went in writing those two books - and you could certainly go deeper - it basically shows that the world is run by a meta-cartel. I would argue it is a cartel. It basically operates with an impunity. They have no accountability for all of their crimes, even when they're exposed here and there. Some people just are protected and above the law, almost inexplicably, and as I point out in my book, it's a lot of the same actors over and over again, the same institutions.”

Webb: “They only want to keep the discussion at sex trafficking, because it's wider than sex.”

McCormack: “Because it's wider than that.”

Webb: “Epstein was absolutely doing a lot of really shady arms trafficking stuff and financial criminality, and they have no interest in getting deep in the weeds there because that exposes other people.”

McCormack: “So, organized crime hasn't gone away. It's just…”

Webb: “Rebranded. It's rebranded. They're philanthropists now.”

McCormack: “Well, look at Leslie Wexner.”

Webb: “Yeah, of course. Leslie Wexner is a great example of that.”

“Epstein had long been a treasured customer at JPMorgan. His accounts were brimming with more than $200 million. He generated millions of dollars in revenue for the bank, landing him atop an internal list of major money makers. He helped JPMorgan orchestrate an important acquisition. He introduced executives to men who would become lucrative clients, like the Google co-founder Sergey Brin, and to global leaders, like Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel.”

“Sure enough, just as more bank employees were losing patience with Epstein in 2011, he began dangling more goodies. That March, to the pleasant surprise of JPMorgan’s investment bankers in Israel, they were granted an audience with Netanyahu. The bankers informed Staley, who forwarded their email to Epstein with a one-word message: “Thanks.””

“The fallout for JPMorgan has been limited. In 2023, it paid $290 million to settle a lawsuit brought by roughly 200 of Epstein’s victims and an additional $75 million to resolve related litigation brought by the U.S. Virgin Islands, where many of Epstein’s crimes took place. The payments were a rounding error for a company that raked in more than $50 billion in profits that year. (The bank didn’t admit wrongdoing and is trying to force its insurers to cover some of the litigation costs.) No regulator took action against JPMorgan. No executives lost their jobs. Dimon remains one of the most powerful bankers in the world.”

“The apparent impunity alarmed Bridgette Carr, a law professor and human-trafficking expert whom the U.S. Virgin Islands hired after Epstein’s death to analyze JPMorgan’s role. Carr concluded that the bank enabled his crimes. “I am deeply worried here that the ultimate message to other financial institutions is that they can keep serving traffickers,” she told us. “It’s still profitable to do that, given the lack of substantial consequences.””
1439   Ceffer   2025 Sep 9, 2:24pm  

One of the Satanic abuse victims said the Epstein file originals are kept by the Vatican. P2, P3 Masons (mafia, black nobles), they are all tied together with the Intels in the International crime enterprises. Of course, the Vatican is on board with the NWO. They don't care what depravity is inflicted as long as they have a shot at becoming the One World Religion.

"Whitney Webb: “Yeah. Ghislaine thinks it was rogue Mossad agents and Sicilian mafia hitman that killed him.”

McCormack: “Together?”"

Webb: “Working together. That's kind of the thesis of my book.” ...

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