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https://www.eugyppius.com/p/the-german-farmers-are-greatly-angry?publication_id=268621&post_id=140674993&isFreemail=true&r=6gdz

The German farmers are greatly angry and there are a lot of them: An early report from the gathering great farmers' rally in Berlin

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/snow-storm-tuesday-january-16-2024

CNN ran an narrative-bending story yesterday headlined “Protests sweep Germany as far-right spots an opening.” Whenever they label something “far right,” it always catches my eye, since they usually mean the conservative counter-revolution. I wasn’t disappointed. They’re bending the narrative to the breaking point.



According to CNN, the news is not the protests. The news is conservatives joining the protests. Accounts vary, but everyone seems to agree the protests began with German farmers, who are either unhappy about losing subsidies (corporate media) or about farm-destroying climate regulations (independent media). Then, according to yesterday’s reports, either regular folks or ‘far right extremist agitators’ joined the demonstrations. ...

The truth seems that the nationwide protests are less about right-wing extremism and more about anti-establishmentarianism. What we are seeing is actually a massive anti-government sentiment that is uniting regular folks from both the left and the right, and corporate media is scrambling to hide what’s really going on in a nest of narrative nonsense.

Patrick says

they usually mean the conservative counter-revolution

How really "conservative" are the farmers enjoying government subsidies and protesting against reduction of these? Has the word lost its meaning completely? Is "New Deal" a "conservative policy" now?

Eric Holder says

How really "conservative" are the farmers enjoying government subsidies and protesting against reduction of these? Has the word lost its meaning completely? Is "New Deal" a "conservative policy" now?

Again, it's not about subsidies, it's about the MERCOSUR "free trade" treaty. Climate and subsidies are the excuse.

German Industry's electric and Wind Power is massively subsidized relative to farms

Eric Holder says

Is "New Deal" a "conservative policy" now?

Not being utterly dependent on food imports or killing off one sector to benefit another (Farms for Manufacturing Exports) is a conservative policy in 2023.

If the Germans are really short on cash, how about deporting the welfare fakefugees?

The Globalists want: Fakefugees to keep landlords from having to lower rents in the face of a shrinking population; replace family farms with 3rd world food imports, Residential users to subsidize massive rate controls for Multinational Businesses, and Bank Bailouts without limit. Their "Muh Spending" arguments are a joke when you look at the relative costs.

AmericanKulak says

If the Germans are really short on cash, how about deporting the welfare fakefugees?

That would be truly conservative, yes.

AmericanKulak says

Not being utterly dependent on food imports or killing off one sector to benefit another (Farms for Manufacturing Exports) is a conservative policy in 2023.

The EU as whole is not anywhere close to being dependent on food imports, let alone "utterly dependent". It seems that some states are clinging to the concept of small farms which are uncompetitive against bigger ones, let alone agro holdings. The average farm size in Germany or france is about 1/4 of American, in Poland (which also had some farmer protests recently) the average farm is even smaller - something like 1/20 of American. (And it's not like American farmers are not subsidized too.)

The "Far Right" moniker has lost any meaning.

RWSGFY says

The "Far Right" moniker has lost any meaning.

Just like Nazi, Conservative, Liberal and Racist.

Clown world.

https://dailynewsfromaolf.substack.com/p/holy-crap-french-farmers-dig-up-highways

HOLY CRAP! French Farmers Dig Up Highways Leading To Paris As They Continue To Protest New Laws Designed To Put Them Out Of Business

Protests intensify as farmers resort to digging up highways leading into Paris, causing disruptions in the French capital and impacting supply chains....

(paywall)

Eric Holder says

The EU as whole is not anywhere close to being dependent on food imports, let alone "utterly dependent". It seems that some states are clinging to the concept of small farms which are uncompetitive against bigger ones, let alone agro holdings. The average farm size in Germany or france is about 1/4 of American, in Poland (which also had some farmer protests recently) the average farm is even smaller - something like 1/20 of American. (And it's not like American farmers are not subsidized too.)

Dutch flower, meat, and dairy, and Irish diary are among if not THE most efficient and highly productive in the world per acre. There is no "efficiency" excuse for trying to kill off Dutch and Irish Cows.

In fact, European meat production outstrips South America and is competitive with the entirety of North America. Only Asia beats it - with many times the land area.

Ireland produces as much diary as the entirety of Canada. Tiny Netherlands outstrips known ranching nation Australia almost 200% and is stunningly is only about 1/8th of the whole USA. Wisconsin alone dwarfs Netherlands.

https://ourworldindata.org/meat-production

As for grains, those German farms are about as productive per acre as US Farms and Irish grains are more productive per acre.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cereal-yield

AmericanKulak says

Again, it's not about subsidies,

Actually, it is:

“Concerning your comments on the farmer strike in Germany yesterday - since you are fluent in German, you may know that the reason they are striking is that they want more government in their lives, not less. As with so much of American agriculture, German farmers have grown accustomed to all kind of price support, tax breaks, income from heavily-subsidized solar panels atop their barns, biogas power generation plant subsidies (My wife's farming cousin has one in Hessen, all paid by the German government), etc.

Now subsidies for all sorts of things (including those silly EV cars - hoorah!) are being slashed, even for Sacred Cows like German farmers (best described as '10 milk cows and two Mercedes' farmers). There is a reason most German farmers have an old Mercedes diesel and a Russian Lada Diesel jeep - they burn the tax-free ag diesel in them, and no one asks questions. I know this from my wife's late uncle, who had a large spread (by German standards) near Kassel, Germany, now run by his grandson with the biogas plant on it.”

https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/angry-italian-farmers-join-their

Angry Italian Farmers Join Their European Counterparts in Protest Against Climate Tyranny

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/06/victory-europe-protesting-farmers-brussels-eu-back-down/

Victory for Europe’s farmers as Brussels caves in on emissions targets and eating less meat

Ursula von der Leyen offers further concession by dropping her controversial proposal to halve pesticide use within six years

The European Union has caved in to angry protests from farmers, cutting its target to scrap specific agricultural emissions which formed part of the bloc’s net zero drive.

A demand to reduce nitrogen, methane and other emissions linked to farming by almost a third has been removed from a wider Brussels plan to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 90 per cent by 2040.

On Tuesday, Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission president, offered a further concession to demonstrating farmers by dropping her controversial proposal to halve pesticide use within six years.

A recommendation urging EU citizens to eat less meat was also removed from the plan.

The concessions came amid mounting demonstrations by farmers in Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Poland and Romania ahead of this year’s EU elections. ...

Manfred Weber, a German MEP and leader of the centre-Right European Political Party, from which Mrs Von der Leyen is a member, warned farming communities could shift their allegiances to hard-Right parties at the ballot.

“We always realised that farmers are citizens and don’t want Left-wing ideologies that dictate everything to them,” he told the European Parliament on Tuesday.

Patrick says

“We always realised that farmers are citizens and don’t want Left-wing ideologies that dictate everything to them,”

That is true of all producers.

https://rumble.com/v4cfixc-mep-rob-roos-calls-out-globalists-at-eu-commission.html

As the European farmer’s revolt gains powerful momentum, Dutch MP, Rob Roos, joins Del with his take on why the EU is placing these strict restrictions on European farmers in the guise of climate activism. He breaks down the reasons behind the pushback of European farmers and the elimination of rights looming for everyday citizens under the guise of climate change.

original link

Patrick says

Ursula von der Leyen offers further concession by dropping her controversial proposal to halve pesticide use within six years

Don't tell RFK - he might get disillusioned in European food policies. 🤡

Rudolph Diesel created the engine deliberately to burn plant oils to reduce German Farmer dependence on fossil fuels.

French farmers protest better:

I gotta admit, the French have highly refined the art of "FUCK YOU!"