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What If The Nazis Had Invaded The US In World War II In The Way That They Invaded Russia?


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2024 Jul 14, 10:02am   207 views  8 comments

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How did the Soviet industry fare during Operation Barbarossa? Did they have enough resources to replace losses during major battles like Kursk and Stalingrad?
In 1941 during the catastrophe that was Operation Barbarossa, Zhukov was chief of staff, and at one point he described in a memo from the Stavka, that the situation was “pretty difficult” and not very likely to improve. This is a slight underestimation. There are two ways of looking at it, one slightly optimistic and one slightly pessimistic. On the bright side, the Soviet Union persevered, and was able to establish and increase their military-industrial output and win the war, which is extremely impressive while losing so much of their territory.

On the other hand, when Zhukov said the situation was difficult, what he meant to say in expressive words was that the Soviet economy was a bucket of dogshit on wheels going gown a hill at 100km/h towards a very solidly built brick wall.

From 1941 to the end of 1942, the Soviet lost about 34% of their entire country’s output, including 48% of agricultural output, 32% of the civilian population and 23% of their factories. Disregarding the extreme military losses, that’s quite a thing to lose within 18 months. Imagine for a moment, that America was invaded, and their starting point was that America had lost from New York to New Orleans and to Chicago. This was the conditions, something America itself pointed out in WW2.

In short, it’s difficult to even describe the scale of what the Soviets lost, and I can tell you that they did not recover their civilian society until the 1950s, that’s how great the devastation was. The fact that the Soviets were able to produce anything at all is impressive, the fact that they outproduced the Germans under these cataclysmic conditions, is a downright miracle.

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1   AmericanKulak   2024 Jul 14, 11:45am  

They would drown in the Atlantic Ocean as they drove Panzers off French Beaches and into the Sea.
2   Tenpoundbass   2024 Jul 14, 12:26pm  

Their Naval convoy wouldn't have stood a snowball's chance in hell crossing the Baring Straights, and the Pacific coastal run.
The Soviet era would have been over in that single one sided battle, that decimated 90% of Russia's fighting forces.
Which coincidentally is why no country from across the ocean will, has or ever could invade us.

Unless some mental midget shithead like Joe Scumbag Biden, let's Russia build it's forces and stage their strategic command from Havana, Brazil and Venezuela so they can attack us from our hemisphere. But then I would blame the Democrat voters for that. They know who in the fuck they are voting for, but does so anyway because of their unfounded hatred of Donald Trump and America.
3   stereotomy   2024 Jul 14, 12:48pm  

Ohomenbot has obviously been misprogrammed. Perhaps Eleana can input the text from Phillip K. Dick's, novel, "The Man in the High Castle."

I can't believe, as old as the creaky Ohomenbot is, that it hasn't heard of PDK. This just proves that Ohomenbot is a small echo chamber for its own thought vomit.

Go ahead, ignore me again.
4   RayAmerica   2024 Jul 14, 12:54pm  

Germany was primarily a land based military force. It did not possess a viable navy in which to successfully cross the English Channel in order to invade Britain, let alone being able to cross the Atlantic with a heavily equipped fighting force that would have been required in order to invade America. Any speculation about such a thing, IMO, is shear lunacy. It simply could not have succeeded. Furthermore, Hitler never even considered such a thing.
5   Onvacation   2024 Jul 14, 1:16pm  

ohomen171 says


What If The Nazis Had Invaded The US In World War II In The Way That They Invaded Russia?

1942 US Population 133,000,000, 60% were armed.
6   komputodo   2024 Jul 14, 1:16pm  

Tenpoundbass says

The Soviet era would have been over in that single one sided battle, that decimated 90% of Russia's fighting forces.

the soviets were the NAZIS?
7   Ceffer   2024 Jul 14, 2:24pm  

They did successfully invade through Operation Paperclip and the Bush Nazis. The Merovingian Dulles brothers secured the Nazi victory over USA through the CIA after WWII through Switzerland.

The Third Reich never surrendered, only their military. The Third Reich just changed venue.
8   stereotomy   2024 Jul 14, 2:36pm  

In the ruins of the Third Reich, it was a free for all. The Soviets took the documents, the Allies starved 1,000,000+ German PWO's to death as part of the eventually aborted Baruch Plan. Paperclip was a race between "allies" to grab the best scientists. We got Von Braun - who knows what the Soviets got?

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