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The GOP’s Big Working-Class Bet


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2024 Jul 19, 12:26pm   193 views  5 comments

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In the July New York Times/Siena poll, Biden is losing to Trump by 23 points among working-class likely voters. In their June poll, which was closer to the running average of the polls, Trump led by 17 points among working-class likely voters. Either way, this is a massive shift from the 2020 election where Trump carried these voters by only 4 points and mostly explains why Trump is running ahead this year.

New York Times/Siena also did two July state polls in Pennsylvania and Virginia. Pennsylvania is generally viewed as being the “tipping point” state in this election—the state that, if carried by Trump, would tip the electoral college in his favor. In the Times Pennsylvania poll, where Trump’s lead over Biden is the same as in the polling averages, Trump is carrying likely working-class voters in the state by 18 points. That’s double his 9 point lead among these voters in 2020, according to States of Change data.

Even more striking, in Virginia, a state Biden carried by 10 points, the Times poll has Biden ahead by just 3 points (shockingly, the state is now tied in the RCP running average). In the poll, Trump is carrying likely working-class voters in the state by 24 points. That compares to a mere 6 point margin for Trump among these voters in 2020 and can account for why the state is now so close.


https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/the-gops-big-working-class-bet

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1   WookieMan   2024 Jul 19, 1:12pm  

I still don't know why Wisconsin is a swing state. All he has to do is win PA, WI or MI and it's over. Not all, but just one.

I'll be up in Wisconsin next week. I might poke the bear with some randoms and ask who they're voting for. It's rural, but not a big tourist area. Problem is too many Illinoian's have moved north of the border. Weird thing is it hasn't made a dent in Indiana. Most of the exodus has been to those two states.

IL will be a pretty big litmus test on the black vote. 16% in 2020 for Biden. I wouldn't be shocked if Trump got it to 5% this time around. IL won't be red, but things are changing. This assassination attempt will for sure get out R's in full force while usually they give up here and concede it to the D's.
2   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jul 19, 1:55pm  

Frank Luntz bends rhe knee. He sees where his future buttered bread is coming from and it ain't the US Chamber of Commerce.


3   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jul 19, 1:57pm  

WookieMan says

I still don't know why Wisconsin is a swing state. All he has to do is win PA, WI or MI and it's over. Not all, but just one.


Milwaukee and Madison are Dem enclaves. In 2020 the suburbs thereof were too. But it does seem that they are now up for grabs.
4   HeadSet   2024 Jul 19, 4:09pm  

WookieMan says

All he has to do is win PA, WI or MI and it's over. Not all, but just one.

Or Virginia.
5   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jul 26, 4:24pm  

Democrats often describe Donald Trump and other Republicans as radical….But many voters also see the Democratic Party as radical. In fact, the average American considers the Democratic Party to be further from the political mainstream than the Republican Party…


https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/forget-the-hype-its-still-a-working


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