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2024 Sep 10, 2:45pm   2,307 views  195 comments

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188   Patrick   2024 Sep 15, 7:25pm  

https://sashastone.substack.com/p/how-abc-manipulated-viewers-with


What I did notice was that they kept Trump and Harris in a tight two-shot, meaning, they never pulled back to show just how much shorter she is than him. That makes a big difference. Their camera showed them to be of equal size 95% of the time. I know that was deliberate because everyone knows height matters in elections.

As a contrast, the Trump and Hillary debate which shows them both in full body shots — they didn’t dare do that with Harris.

When they did pull back it was a strange perspective so as not to notice the height difference...

I will also note that the only viral story that has emerged from the debate is the “eating cats and dogs” story. While the Democrats are trying to spin this as a major negative on Trump, I am not so sure that is what people want for Harris. I think they wanted her to come out of it with some viral bump.
189   HeadSet   2024 Sep 15, 8:02pm  

Patrick says

When they did pull back it was a strange perspective so as not to notice the height difference...

They did the same with Reagan - Dukakis, as far as not to show a height difference. They even had the camera on gimbals to lower so that Dukakis would not look short.
191   Patrick   2024 Sep 16, 12:37pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/missed-shots-monday-september-16


One thing we’ve learned throughout the pandemic is that the media always rushes out a distracting violent catastrophe as soon as any embarrassing news threatens to break. So as soon as I heard the news about Routh’s arrest, I wondered whether there was some other story they were trying to obliterate with a second assassination story.

I found it almost instantly.

To get the story in any media, we must travel all the way to the ancient land of India. Yesterday, Times Now ran an article headlined “ABC Whistleblower's Alleged Affidavit Surfaces: Top Claims About Harris-Trump Debate.”

In the potentially explosive affidavit, a whistleblower (name redacted), first stated he lives in Manhattan and has worked for ABC for over ten years in various technical and management positions. He —I’m going with ‘he,’ but we don’t know for sure— then referred to liberal changes in ABC’s editorial policies since 1996 — suggesting he has worked at ABC for a long time.

He claimed ABC has a massive anti-Trump bias, and then described details about close, unfair pre-debate coordination between ABC and the Harris campaign.

It’s important to remember that anyone can type up and sign an affidavit. Affidavits are considered evidence, but they are subject to rebuttal, and are evaluated for credibility. So, before we look at the claims, let’s consider the most remarkable and most credible feature of this affidavit: it was prepared, signed, and notarized before the September 10th debate.

The affidavit accurately predicted, ahead of time, exactly what we all saw play out the next day. You can’t get any more credible than that.

True, the pre-debate date could have been faked. But the whistleblower anticipated that challenge, and so (according to the affidavit), he also:

— sent a certified letter containing the affidavit to himself, postmarked September 9th, which remains unopened;

— dispatched a FedEx package with the affidavit on September 9th, delivered to his residence on September 10th, which remains unopened; and

— sent a certified letter with the affidavit to Speaker Mike Johnson on September 9th.

Call all that life insurance. (Initial online rumors he died in a car crash were just that, and my best is intentional disinformation.)

In other words, the whistleblowing affiant can prove he signed his prophetic affidavit before the debate. But he offered even more evidence. In the affidavit’s most potentially explosive claim, the whistleblower claimed he has recordings:

Additionally, For further investigation, I have secretly
recorded several conversations that will prove that the Harris
Campaign insisted upon not only the Fact Checking of
Donald Trump, but also insisted on what questions were not
to be asked under any circumstances or else the Harris
campaign would decline to participate in the debate.

That allegation of recordings must make ABC’s lawyers extremely nervous. They don’t know exactly what they can safely lie about.

Now for the claims. The whistleblower claimed that the Harris campaign insisted on certain secret conditions, to which ABC agreed, including that:

— Trump would be aggressively fact-checked, and Harris wouldn’t be fact-checked at all.

— Harris would not be asked any questions about covering up for Joe Biden’s dementia.

— Harris would not be asked any questions about her record as California’s Attorney General.

— Harris would not be asked about her brother-in-law Tony West, a former top Obama DOJ official and Uber executive, who was alleged to have helped embezzle billions (with a ‘B’) of taxpayer dollars and is being floated for Attorney General in a Harris Administration.

— Harris received secret, pre-debate “sample questions” that were not exactly the same as the questions she was asked but were close enough to let her prepare canned responses.

— Harris got other accommodations, such as a special podium and promises of favorable split-screen coverage.

— Trump got no accommodations.

According to Times Now, neither ABC nor the Harris campaign have responded to this credible affidavit’s claims. With the new attempted assassination news, this story is designed to disappear in the fog like so many others have. But we don’t need to let that happen.
192   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Sep 17, 6:38am  

At the risk of sounding richwicks, this smells of bullshit.
195   Patrick   2024 Sep 18, 8:59am  

https://modernity.news/2024/09/18/clip-shows-springfield-city-manager-admitting-hes-heard-about-reports-haitian-migrants-are-eating-pets/


Freshly uncovered footage originally from March shows a Springfield, Ohio City Manager confirming that he has “heard about” reports of Haitian migrants eating pets, confounding claims by the media that the whole issue is a baseless online conspiracy theory.

When Donald Trump claimed during last week’s presidential debate that Haitian migrants were eating dogs and cats, he was swiftly fact checked by ABC moderator David Muir.

“I just want to clarify here, you bring up Springfield, Ohio. And ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community,” said Muir.

Except, that doesn’t appear to be true.

https://x.com/GrageDustin/status/1836178999178866766

Video footage from a Springfield City Commission Meeting that took place on March 12, 2024 shows a concerned resident raising the subject.

The man suggests that life in Springfield is “180 degrees different to what they’re used to,” suggesting he is talking about recently arrived Haitian migrants.

“And one of the things that I heard that bothered me very much and I’ve actually had quite a few people contact me here lately is some pretty horrible things happening to domesticated animals in the neighborhood,” he states.

“We’ve had some stuff in the park and again they’re being taken advantage of for reasons other than…”

At this point, Springfield City Manager Brian Heck appears to express doubt, stating, “You asked me if there was proof, we just don’t have proof.”

“People who have confided in me have asked me for anonymity, I can’t give their names up,” responds the resident.

“I mean we haven’t seen the proof that you’re talking about, and I have heard about it,” says Heck.

This contradicts to some extent what Heck said last week, when he released a public statement asserting the reports were false. ...

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