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A Jesuit from the Holy Roman Empire will be knocking on your door shortly with castrating clippers and will hold you down as illegal immigrant squatters occupy your home. Why do you fight progress?

“The eurozone economy grew about 6% over the past 15 years, measured in dollars, compared with 82% for the U.S., according to International Monetary Fund data. That has left the average EU country poorer per head than every US state except Idaho and Mississippi, according to a report this month by the European Centre for International Political Economy, a Brussels-based independent think tank. If the current trend continues, by 2035 the gap between economic output per capita in the US and EU will be as large as that between Japan and Ecuador today, the report said.”

https://newsletter.doomberg.com/p/judgement-day

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

“The eurozone economy grew about 6% over the past 15 years, measured in dollars, compared with 82% for the U.S., according to International Monetary Fund data. That has left the average EU country poorer per head than every US state except Idaho and Mississippi, according to a report this month by the European Centre for International Political Economy, a Brussels-based independent think tank. If the current trend continues, by 2035 the gap between economic output per capita in the US and EU will be as large as that between Japan and Ecuador today, the report said.”

https://newsletter.doomberg.com/p/judgement-day

Ah but the standard of living in the US has been declining in the recent decade compared to the Western Europen countries, no doubt about it. GDP is meaningless, debt to gdp is at least a somewhat legit measure, and the EU with all of it's corrupt Eurocrats is doing quite better than the US lately here. Zero reason to gloat, hopefully November will bring an America first govt back again. You can live well in the US but you need to be in the top 10% of earners as absolute minimum, better top 5%.

mell says

Ah but the standard of living in the US has been declining in the recent decade compared to the Western Europen countries

Not really. Energy prices are through the roof over there. And Germany is becoming a Rust Belt.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

mell says

Ah but the standard of living in the US has been declining in the recent decade compared to the Western Europen countries

Not really. Energy prices are through the roof over there. And Germany is becoming a Rust Belt.

Germany has been declining no doubt due to unfettered immigration and bad govt (prob not worse than xiden/harris though), but they are reversing course now at least compared to the US. I know Europe pretty well and would argue that if you have kids your standard of living is better in Germany atm on average (upper class and uber wealthy excluded). Of course this depends on the region and city, but in terms of child care, family friendly infrastructure, cost of living and inflation they're ahead. If you're a single tech worker or have another profession with a great salary the US has more to offer imo as the tech and science (as well as MDs) salary bands are fairly narrow in Europe and you're just middle or upper middle class. Of course if you prefer low density population you will be served better in the US mostly.

mell says

know Europe pretty well and would argue that if you have kids your standard of living is better in Germany atm on average

...and you pay for it with heavy taxation, too. On net, it's either a wash or they are poorer. They are definitely becoming poorer in the future as demographics fucks them. France and Sweden are outliers.

At least back in the 90's, if you emigrated and didn't declare a religion, then they didn't take 10% of your wages for donations to your church.

Paganism had its privileges even then - the Irish at the time that I told were gobsmacked that they could save 10% by denying their religion.

So...who is gonna pay for the rebuilding of the Ukraine when the hostilities end ???

Not Germany 'cause they believe the Ukraine blew up the Nord stream II. Ukraine is pissing off other Euro countries, as well. Like Slovakia.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kyiv-will-not-extend-gas-transit-deal-ukraine-tells-slovakia/ar-AA1rPEmL

The US ??? - Not if we start to put America first.

Russian reparations ???? - Makes me giggle.

So, the Europeans get to have a blown-up, 3rd world country that nobody likes festering in the middle of Europe.