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CBS turned off Vance's mic when he was explaining the Fakefugee App.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

WookieMan says

Likely young votes as I think people are sick of geezer running the show as they die off. Walz and Kamala are both old.

1) Trump is old.

2) Seniors outvote young voters 4:1. In some areas, much much higher.

True. But there's more of them at this point. Kamala loses the male vote for sure. I haven't talked to a 50+ man or hell even women that intends to vote for her.

I believe you're out CA way. IL is the cold CA with the same politics. I've never seen more pro republican signs ever. By a long shot. Used to be 1:4 it's now 20:1 R:D. Even when Trump won in '16.

IL or CA ain't moving. But the swing states are no longer that. The only way to steal the election would be Texas. I'm not seeing that. That would be the only possible route in my opinion. Otherwise Trump is POTUS again.

I think in Santa Cruz the Harris vs. Trump signage is about 5 to one. However, there aren't very many of either maybe one per 15-20 households around my hoods. I am shocked there are people in Santa Cruz who will put out Trump signs, for it is an invitation for psycho purple hairs to throw a molotov through the window, or, at the very least, do some kind of property damage.

The crazy gay German communist down the street is really so nuts he is capable of bodily physical harm as much as property.

Vance gives me hope there is MAGA beyond Trump, and not more Boehner-Ryan Budget Busting Mass Migration Enabling.

Vance was way too comfortable on the J6 narrative, for my liking. He didn't bring up Pelosi bragging how she arranged it, on a video while it was going down. The Feds mixed in the crowd agitating and stirring up trouble. The cowardly judges that refused to even hear the cases on their merit. So they hid behind "no legal standing". There was so much he could have said about J6 and the stolen election but he took it on the chin. While distracting it gracefully to make his own points which he did masterfully. But to call him a MAGA stalwart on the horizon, would be a long stretch.

He's a moderate Republican, but he's from the political cloth. He doesn't believe politics should at a point where your average voter is as in tune to politics, and has specific agendas for sending in candidates and putting America first. He has prepped his whole life for the political analysis consultant candidate class that gets a steady flow of cash for his services. His service is not for MAGA it's for political class prestige and honor. Will he serve under Trump with honor?
Who knows, at this point everyone was just as gushy over Mike Pence. Look how that turned out.
He might serve Trump honorably and not stab him in the back with other RINOs and TDS hucksters. Then he'll usher Trump away after his final four year term. Get the anointed choice, and then try to go back to late 80's to late 90's everyone go along to get along politics. Two parties giving populist rhetoric while getting rich awarding corporations Lords and Viceroys of industry and tech.

He would have been a great choice in 2016 if Trump didn't run. He might have at least brought us back to the Bush Jr. Era before 9-11 and the housing bubble.

Tenpoundbass says

He would have been a great choice in 2016 if Trump didn't run

He was still in diapers then, lol.

Eric Holder says

He was still in diapers then, lol.

Yes but my point was someone like him would have been a better option than anyone that ran against Trump in 2016.
My issue with him any elected Republican that was bemoaning Trump from the time he stepped forward to now. Is only doing so out of self preservation of the establishment. There's been several Republicans that has tried to brand themselves as a MAGA alternative, they all hate Trump. And most of them has voted with the Democrats when they were doing their worse to America and Trump.

You don't walk back from that and say "I'm a Trump supporter now." and expect it to mean a MAGA supporter.