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even right after the debate, the NBC News commentators said JD Vance did very well in the debate

WookieMan says

I'll eat my words. Trump will win MN, WI, MI and PA. Even just 2 he wins. Call it sexist, no one is ready for a woman

PA and WI he is likely a favorite now. Back to a tie on Polymarkets, Vance delivered!

mell says

WookieMan says

I'll eat my words. Trump will win MN, WI, MI and PA. Even just 2 he wins. Call it sexist, no one is ready for a woman

PA and WI he is likely a favorite now. Back to a tie on Polymarkets, Vance delivered!

I don't think it moved anyone in my rural area. Hopefully urban areas. Likely young votes as I think people are sick of geezer running the show as they die off. Walz and Kamala are both old.

JD did well even though I'm not particularly fond of him. It's like the movie Step Brothers, I just want to punch him in the face, POW!. He was calm and cool. He was the opposite of Trump which I think was the point of the selection for VP. But I still want to punch him. I like him being younger though.

Trump has had 4 years to think this through. Kamala has had 3 months with no votes. If this isn't a landslide this is blatant cheating at this point.

JD was more personable. Outside that it was mostly a dud. I keep hanging on to the school shooter thing from Walz. We all legit, not a joke or lie, spit our beer out. And Walz just kept going like nothing happened. He didn't know what he said.

I think he has early Biden syndrome.

Jacked to the gills on MKUltra stimulants, as the original KamalaToe. The original KamalaToe's speech problems are likely brain damage because she needed excessive juicing for built in hysteria. KamalaToe has officially graduated to avatar immaculate, who knows WTF happened to the original.

Tampon Tim is likely not used to the cocktails yet. He's a Jabba without the charm. Euphoria of sycophantic sociopathy to pending crash. Guess the MKUltra didn't perfect the harmony of the speech centers yet. He was an emergency case due to the VP selection and wasn't pimped or groomed enough.

It's interesting how they select according to some absolute standard of perversion and Freemason sociopathy. Illuminati wars are interesting.

WookieMan says

Likely young votes as I think people are sick of geezer running the show as they die off. Walz and Kamala are both old.

1) Trump is old.

2) Seniors outvote young voters 4:1. In some areas, much much higher.

CBS turned off Vance's mic when he was explaining the Fakefugee App.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

WookieMan says

Likely young votes as I think people are sick of geezer running the show as they die off. Walz and Kamala are both old.

1) Trump is old.

2) Seniors outvote young voters 4:1. In some areas, much much higher.

True. But there's more of them at this point. Kamala loses the male vote for sure. I haven't talked to a 50+ man or hell even women that intends to vote for her.

I believe you're out CA way. IL is the cold CA with the same politics. I've never seen more pro republican signs ever. By a long shot. Used to be 1:4 it's now 20:1 R:D. Even when Trump won in '16.

IL or CA ain't moving. But the swing states are no longer that. The only way to steal the election would be Texas. I'm not seeing that. That would be the only possible route in my opinion. Otherwise Trump is POTUS again.

I think in Santa Cruz the Harris vs. Trump signage is about 5 to one. However, there aren't very many of either maybe one per 15-20 households around my hoods. I am shocked there are people in Santa Cruz who will put out Trump signs, for it is an invitation for psycho purple hairs to throw a molotov through the window, or, at the very least, do some kind of property damage.

The crazy gay German communist down the street is really so nuts he is capable of bodily physical harm as much as property.

Vance gives me hope there is MAGA beyond Trump, and not more Boehner-Ryan Budget Busting Mass Migration Enabling.

Vance was way too comfortable on the J6 narrative, for my liking. He didn't bring up Pelosi bragging how she arranged it, on a video while it was going down. The Feds mixed in the crowd agitating and stirring up trouble. The cowardly judges that refused to even hear the cases on their merit. So they hid behind "no legal standing". There was so much he could have said about J6 and the stolen election but he took it on the chin. While distracting it gracefully to make his own points which he did masterfully. But to call him a MAGA stalwart on the horizon, would be a long stretch.

He's a moderate Republican, but he's from the political cloth. He doesn't believe politics should at a point where your average voter is as in tune to politics, and has specific agendas for sending in candidates and putting America first. He has prepped his whole life for the political analysis consultant candidate class that gets a steady flow of cash for his services. His service is not for MAGA it's for political class prestige and honor. Will he serve under Trump with honor?
Who knows, at this point everyone was just as gushy over Mike Pence. Look how that turned out.
He might serve Trump honorably and not stab him in the back with other RINOs and TDS hucksters. Then he'll usher Trump away after his final four year term. Get the anointed choice, and then try to go back to late 80's to late 90's everyone go along to get along politics. Two parties giving populist rhetoric while getting rich awarding corporations Lords and Viceroys of industry and tech.

He would have been a great choice in 2016 if Trump didn't run. He might have at least brought us back to the Bush Jr. Era before 9-11 and the housing bubble.

Tenpoundbass says

He would have been a great choice in 2016 if Trump didn't run

He was still in diapers then, lol.

Eric Holder says

He was still in diapers then, lol.

Yes but my point was someone like him would have been a better option than anyone that ran against Trump in 2016.
My issue with him any elected Republican that was bemoaning Trump from the time he stepped forward to now. Is only doing so out of self preservation of the establishment. There's been several Republicans that has tried to brand themselves as a MAGA alternative, they all hate Trump. And most of them has voted with the Democrats when they were doing their worse to America and Trump.

You don't walk back from that and say "I'm a Trump supporter now." and expect it to mean a MAGA supporter.

https://www.libsoftiktok.com/p/tim-walz-the-knucklehead

The first and only debate between Vice Presidential candidates JD Vance and Tim Walz wrapped last night and it was glorious.

Aside from Tim Walz looking like a deer in headlights, JD Vance mopped the floor with him, leading to some embarrassing moments from Tampon Tim, some of which were predictably self-inflicted.

I was determined to make sure that Tim Walz’s failures, lies, and fumbles were exposed for all to see.

To start it off, I highlighted how JD Vance crushed Walz over the fact that under Donald Trump, there were no new wars, Israel wasn’t under attack, and Russia wasn’t invading Ukraine.

Yet under Kamala, who has been in office for 3.5 years, various armed conflicts have sprung up around the globe.

Next, when Walz attempted to attack JD Vance over Springfield, Ohio, the moderators stepped in to help Walz and “fact-check” JD. However, JD Vance called out the moderators for their fake “fact-check, crushing both NBC and Walz in one fell swoop.

This is when Walz started to completely fall apart. He was asked whether or not he was in China during the Tiananmen Square protest (NEWSFLASH: He wasn’t).

As he fumbled through his non-answer, I swiftly exposed the fact that it was reported that Tim Walz was in Nebraska at the time, not in China. ...

Yet, one of the biggest moments of the debate I exposed was when Tim Walz said “I’ve become friends with school shooters.”




You heard that right…

Tim Walz actually said that he had become friends with school shooters. I made sure to carefully document this quote through a collection of clips, memes, and graphics so that the radical Left will never forget who they nominated as Vice President.

As long as Tim Walz continues to lie to the nation, I will be there to expose him at every turn. The mainstream media will do everything in their power to cover for Tampon Tim and Cackling Kamala. With your support, I won’t let them drive their fake narrative down the throats of the American people.

Let’s keep spreading the truth together!

-Chaya Raichik

Walz is attending Illuminati Freemason Remedial Lying Lab.

"Now, just why do you think Satan forsook your lies this time, and how do you think you could do better next time?"

https://sashastone.substack.com/p/america-finally-got-to-see-the-real

There was one objective for JD Vance last night: introduce himself to American voters who only know him through the media they follow. They’ve heard he was “weird.” They’ve seen memes where he called women “childless cat ladies.” They’ve seen one picture after another demonizing, mocking, and attempting to invent a cartoon character of their version of JD Vance. In other words, they’ve dehumanized him.

Well, they all have dripping, icky, rotten egg on their faces today after JD Vance’s masterful debate performance, one that will easily make and define his political career and go down as one of the all-time best debate performances in history.

So yeah, the Democrats should probably be very worried about JD Vance, not just for this election but for the MAGA of the future. Trump chose wisely.

Vance has learned a thing or two from battling a hostile press. Walz has avoided them and it showed last night. He did what Biden did - he stared with a terrified look on his face as Vance spoke.

But for Vance, there isn’t a nasty question he hasn’t already had to answer at least ten times. If you’ve been watching his press conferences as I have, you already know he can handle them. He was born to do this. You can tell when he’s about to give a really good answer because he blinks very slowly to show he’s tolerating their terrible question as he locks and loads.

But it wasn’t so much how he batted the moderators around — always a fun thing to watch — but how he directed his message straight at us, those watching at home. Did he change any minds? He might have, especially among women voters who have only seen the media’s caricature of him.

The phony focus groups that they aired immediately afterwards in an attempt to do damage control showed the debate made them more likely to vote for Walz but I don’t believe that.

What mattered most was that JD Vance showed up as the guy so many people know, not the guy the legacy press has been lying about all year.

As I ruminated on some of the things that bothered me that Vance didn’t mention, I realized just how adept he was at keeping the focus on the issues. For instance, Tim Walz had one good moment when he mentioned the 2020 election and January 6th. JD Vance sidestepped answering the question.

At first, I thought he should have hit back on that. He should have brought up Tim Walz’s failure to protect Minneapolis. He should have brought up the violence all through that Summer. And he should have defended the protesters on January 6th. That’s what I would have done.

That is their best selling point on the Left and will be one of the key issues for undecideds - that voters will punish Trump for that. And it’s best to let voters decide whether they thought Trump was out of line to protect the election. But we’ve gotten a massive thumb on the scale with the DOJ going after Trump, not to mention the phony January 6th show trial.

But I didn’t think Trump was entirely out of line. Some of what he said wasn’t true, but he had a right to protest the unfair treatment of him before, during, and after his presidency, as did his supporters. That’s what we do in America. We get mad, and we protest. They allow that only from one side. And it’s wrong.

Our government did not have the right to turn it into a “Reichstag Fire” to grant themselves absolute power.

I could go on and on about January 6th, but I think Vance left it alone because he didn’t want to give the media any sound bites, energy, or juice that might distract from everything else he was saying. And that impressed me all the more.

Unfortunately for Trump, he showed up in his debate with Kamala Harris as the guy the media said he was. Trump is easily triggered, as anyone would be considering, but that’s what gave Harris the upper hand. Vance decided not to give that to Walz.

I was thinking about JD Vance and Trump, and I realized that Vance now has the father figure in his life that he never really had growing up. His affection for Trump showed through last night and always does. He has such a forgiving heart, which America needs right now.

I’m glad the public had a chance to see the real JD Vance, even though they all have a new favorite word to use to try to diminish some of his power, “slick.” JD Vance wasn’t “slick,” but the word went out, and the machine gobbled it up. ...

https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1841361906612793677

Tucker interviews Sen. Mike Lee about the debate.

"We thought you said he had a super tolerance for our drug cocktails."

Man, those two witchy witches musta brewed eye of newt and leg of toad before this debate.

Debates Don't Matter:

Very few people are left undecided in this election, and I am skeptical that the VP debate truly moved the needle for any significant number of people. At this point in the cycle, the people who are going to vote for Trump are going to vote for him, and the people who aren't are not. The same goes for Harris. Something drastic would have to happen for any significant swing in the votes.

It is a shame that this debate mattered very little because it is the best one we have had in the past eight years.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/10/01/vance-vice-president-debate-trump-voters-republicans/75476158007/

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

It is a shame that this debate mattered very little because it is the best one we have had in the past eight years.

I hung last night and all the guys there watched it. Ping pong.... I'm a child man. They're not as political as I am. I'd bet half of them don't vote, but most watched it or clips of it. Vance and Walz are not household names unless you live in those states. I think people were interested.

JD was calm, cool and collected. The Walz school shooter thing is going to burn him, well Kamala. Joe Biden not knowing how to talk and we know he's senile is way different than the school shooter thing. That's kind of beyond a gaffe.

At the end of the day I don't think Americans want a woman POTUS. Then factor in age. Younger Americans around my age and under want fresh blood. That debate I think did that. He's basically 20 years younger than anyone running for POTUS or VP and is a US Senator. At 40. That's not an easy gig to get.

What I think it did is invigorate people that might not normally vote. Is that 1/2 a point or 3? It was a net gain for a Trump vote in my opinion. Independents decide elections. D votes D and R votes R 100%. My House rep is a D, female and I will be voting for her. I will vote for Trump. I'm a classic independent. I vote with who produces what they say.

I respect women, but I don't think they're meant to lead nations with 330+ million people. Run a military. In business women very rarely succeed at running or even starting a company. They can be bitches, but you have to be an ass hole. That's where men thrive. Men laugh at mean bitches. Women are supposed to be nurturing, take care of kids, etc. They can work and they can do well. Lead? Not so much. Call it sexist, I call it biology and science.

A negligible 1% of voters who tuned into the debate said it had changed their mind about whom to vote for, with Harris and Trump supporters equally unlikely to view the event as decisive.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/02/politics/election-poll-walz-vance-debate/index.html

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

A negligible 1% of voters who tuned into the debate said it had changed their mind about whom to vote for, with Harris and Trump supporters equally unlikely to view the event as decisive.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/02/politics/election-poll-walz-vance-debate/index.html

Not negligible if they're black. Trump/Vance are going after the black vote as a shield against voter fraud. If you get even 5% of blacks to vote Trump in urban areas it's for sure over. Might only be 1/2% overall, but it's important to win GA, PA and MI.

Black men don't even stay with black women. Soak that one in. Trump/Vance is trying to get them to jump ship. Blacks were lackeys to the Dem party. Throw in school shooter, you got white moms up in arms. No way to tell, but I think it moved the needle more than you'd think.

WookieMan says

Not negligible if they're black.

All of it is negligible. 1% is within the margin of error.