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WookieMan says

This will be beyond epic level storm surges. The entire west coast of FL is likely to get wiped out. Hopefully I'm wrong and being overly hyperbolic, but anything on grade/slab is getting wiped out. I'd get the fuck out of dodge on this one.

This describes my friend's situation I believe. He's on a canal in Fort Myers and his house is on a slab.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13933111/fema-hurricane-milton-lgbtq-victims-florida.html

Resurfaced video shows FEMA exec talking about prioritizing LGBTQ hurricane victims as Milton barrels towards Florida

GNL says

This describes my friend's situation I believe. He's on a canal in Fort Myers and his house is on a slab.

I'm no expert, but I'd be getting out. Most the canals in that area have sea walls. Even slightly inland 5'-10' of storm surge has no where to go. Haven't tracked the path today, but Fort Myers seems like it won't be a wipe out.

Tampa seems to be the concern. If it stays a Cat 5 on land fall good luck to anyone that didn't leave. I've read top 5 wind speeds recorded in the Atlantic/Gulf hurricane history. Helene is going to look like a joke I think. We'll see how today goes. If it hits with 175mph wind or potentially higher along with storm surge the first mile inland of shore line is basically a total loss. And if Tampa Bay gets pushed in you're looking at massive flooding.

AmericanKulak says

Robert Sproul says

Well, this is some 'October Surprise'.
Nonstop 'natural disasters' till election day.

Agreed. But I think it hurts Kamul-ah much more than Trump.

But it can't be! "They" manipulate the weather to deny Trump a victory, remember?

WookieMan says

Helene is going to look like a joke I think

He sandbagged and taped his house during Helene and still got about 3 inches in his house. He told me this time he's hauling everything out of his place and leaving.

AmericanKulak says

Robert Sproul says

Well, this is some 'October Surprise'.
Nonstop 'natural disasters' till election day.

Agreed. But I think it hurts Kamul-ah much more than Trump.

Unfortunately, it gives the opportunity for the Dems to steal the vote in North Carolina.

Guess the right of way weather weapon redevelopers and eminent domain terrorists really like that quartz. Maybe they need it for witching the timelines.

Hmm. Surprised it isn't their strobe gematria '33 billion'. Do the dark powers deal in decimals?

https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordFans/141814

I lived first on Sand Key, right on the gulf. if this hits it will be destroyed. Then I moved to Tarpon Springs on the water. Maxine Waters was responsible for flood insurance going up to $45,000 a year.(I made the 6 o’clock news when FEMA came to town and tried to explain how that made any sense) They are idiots. I bailed and moved inland 70 miles north. We are still expecting 70 to 100 mile an hour winds.

GNL says

WookieMan says

Helene is going to look like a joke I think

He sandbagged and taped his house during Helene and still got about 3 inches in his house. He told me this time he's hauling everything out of his place and leaving.

I wish him luck. Glad he's leaving. I don't live there, just have visited the area multiple times. A house on slab with even a Cat 3 direct hit from the West is doing to wipe out most of the homes. If it stays a 4 or even a 5 everything along the coast is gone.

It's clipping the Yucatan more than I thought. So hopefully that knocks it down a bit. But there's a lot of distance to cover still running over bath water.

My folks almost lost their 2nd story condo in a cat 3. Massive damage still. I went down to help with clean up. I think Opal? 90's ish. Navarre Beach. If the surge is 15' all the barrier island houses are fucked. Roads are gone. And it's hitting at night.

I have one high school acquaintance that is living just north of Tampa. Not far. The entire Bay is going to run through the city most likely. 5-10'. She's staying. I didn't say anything, but I'm like are you a retard? No one has witnessed a hurricane hitting from this direction. Barrier islands are toast and I think Tampa is in 5' of water at least 2-3 miles in factoring in rain.

Can't forget the back end. Flooding, wind, etc. They've been swamped for the past few days. The east coast is still looking at a Cat 1. This will likely be a top 10 lifetime storm. Generally no dunes. Not built on piers. The gulf is just gonna come at them.

If there is ever a time for prayer, this is it.

Doesn't god make the hurricanes in the first place?

They put their numerology in plain sight in their fake statistics. Unless a UFO shows up to break the storm, it's gonna be bad.

https://t.me/DeepDives/29692

https://t.me/tribunalsandexecutions/484245

More good cheer.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2024/10/09/watch-live-hurricane-milton-webcams-capture-scene-across-florida/

Euphoriant ozone drug of the incoming hurricane attracts the ants to the beaches in spite of.

So, is it going to land as a Cat 4, 3, 2 or 1? I can't keep up.

Looking kinna 2-ish but it's hard to tell because the live cams are mostly in a closed loop from earlier because they went out. Won't really know extent until tomorrow.

Yesterday I sent a pal a message because he lives/d in St. Pete's. Basically I was just asking if he was going to get out of Dodge because Milton was approaching.

His reply: My house was destroyed 2 weeks ago from Helene. We're on the 20th floor of an apartment now so safe.

Ceffer says

Looking kinna 2-ish but it's hard to tell because the live cams are mostly in a closed loop from earlier because they went out. Won't really know extent until tomorrow.

Really not about a 1-5. Nothing hits this area directly. Over land usually or glancing South to North. Almost all homes are on slab 7-10' above sea level. Those houses will be gone or massively flooded.

Well, 100 million prayers for Milton to take a southern dip worked. Looks like there was a negative 5 ft surge for the north of Tampa bay and only a 2ft surge for the South Tampa Bay.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/10/09/us/hurricane-milton-florida-landfall

Sarasota got nailed with a 10' surge though.

Downfall rain was as expected - very heavy.

Misc says

Well, 100 million prayers for Milton to take a southern dip worked. Looks like there was a negative 5 ft surge for the north of Tampa bay and only a 2ft surge for the South Tampa Bay.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/10/09/us/hurricane-milton-florida-landfall

Sarasota got nailed with a 10' surge though.

Downfall rain was as expected - very heavy.

Still need to see the fallout from the tornados. Supposedly those were pretty bad along the east coast in/near populated areas. We'll see what daylight brings. Tampa got lucky, but between clouds and nearing evening during land fall no one really has a clue until the light of day.

Most these storms now just are a massive flooding issue. A large percentage of FL homes are built to hurricane code at Cat 3 levels or so. So damage should be minimal.

Interested to see Bradenton Beach in FL. Was just there last year. If it was truly a 12-15' surge all those houses on the barrier island are flooded. People had a bunch of shit at the curb from Helene, so some of that likely blown about damaging things. Most I've experienced outside is 70mph. Tack on another 30mph and anything not secured properly is coming loose.

WookieMan says

A large percentage of FL homes are built to hurricane code at Cat 3 levels or so. So damage should be minimal.

A large percentage of Florida homes are on a slab at grade, and therefore really easy to flood. A minimum 3' crawlspace should be code.

zzyzzx says

A large percentage of Florida homes are on a slab at grade, and therefore really easy to flood. A minimum 3' crawlspace should be code.

I know. I was more commenting on the construction of framing and windows. Older houses not so much. Anything since Andrew is most likely built like a brick shit house. Flooding is always going to be an issue with any hurricane.

Problem is a crawl space will just fill with water. Gotta pump that out somewhere. Won't work when you're just pumping it into 2' of water surrounding your house.

Need to build houses on stilts, like they do in some places on Hawaii islands. Kauai specifically. Really high, 12-15' concrete stilts. Park cars, boats or have hangout space underneath. Saw the same kind of deal in Eastern Europe in a flood-prone area.

WookieMan says

Problem is a crawl space will just fill with water. Gotta pump that out somewhere. Won't work when you're just pumping it into 2' of water surrounding your house.

You wait for the water to subside from around your house before pumping it out. Duh.

RWSGFY says

Need to build houses on stilts, like they do in some places on Hawaii islands.

This is how it is done in Virginia:

HeadSet says

This is how it is done in Virginia:

Stairs suck when you're old. (I'm not there yet)

Maybe on a single story it wouldn't be so bad. I see boomers in my family having problems with stairs. One aunt/uncle can't afford to sell their house and buy a new one. Big mistake they made buying that house 10 years ago.

I've been looking to buy lake front / river front property here in Texas but if I did that I'd definitely want it elevated like that. I'm just considering how I'd get a ramp I could drive up to the 1st floor built.

There are some houses that are on the bluffs that are safe, but then when I'm an oldster I'd have a lot of trouble getting down a flight of 100 stairs to the water so...

SoTex says

Stairs suck when you're old.

Many of those tall homes have elevators, since quite a few elderly retire in one.

Maybe some dykes around your house. Of course, that could invoke an immense hirsute lesbian protest. I'm confused.

HeadSet says

Many of those tall homes have elevators, since quite a few elderly retire in one.

Yeah, I've thought of that too. Also a sort of tram to get down to the lake. I've seen houses there with them. I think they are ~$20K these days to install but I'm not sure how durable they are if they are often underwater.

My aunt and uncle want one of those chair elevators that are installed on staircases but they don't have the funds.

I keep calling it a lake. It's more of a puddle these days due to the drought. Last time it was full was 2017. I'm hoping people will sell cheap but the 2021 price run up (doubled prices or more) hasn't fallen. Nothing has sold in 2 years and prices are still way too high.

SoTex says

My aunt and uncle want one of those chair elevators that are installed on staircases but they don't have the funds.

Sounds like you now have one Xmas gift figured out...