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ohomen171 says

The U.S. immigration system is the toughest in the world, in my opinion.

Tell that to 10M illegals. They didn't seem to have a problem and are getting benefits and housing. Rough life. Doesn't seem that hard. Take your black nephew with you to Mexico and have to get notarized documentation from his mom. You live in a different reality my friend.

Mexico is stricter than the US. The US is a cake walk to get into. You literally have to do nothing besides get across the border. US Customs is a joke as well.

WookieMan says

The US is a cake walk to get into. You literally have to do nothing besides get across the border.

I think he means in terms of doing it 'legally' than being a border runner.

As for Claire & I, both of us have gotten long term business visas, hers for the US and mine for the UK, where we can come and go, for up to 6 mos at a time.

Hypothetically speaking, if we were to get married and she wanted to settle down in the US, it would be easier for me to file for a K-1 fiance visa than to get married in the UK and immigrate her under the K-3 category which can easily take more than a few years (or so) of processing time. Vice versa, however, it's easier as I'd already be under a long term UK business visa and the process would be a conversion from that to family reunion thing which is less of a headache there than here.

US Citizens should not be allowed to marry foreigners and confer US Citizenship to others. This process is abused constantly, usually by foreign females.

In Santa Cruz I personally knew 5 Japanese girls who came to "study English" with student visas, and then married some suckers. A couple of them are still married to the guys.

I also knew 4 girls from Peru who did the same thing.

I also dated a girl from Shanghai China who married a rich dude, but they were on the rocks after she wanted to learn English and he wanted her to stay home and cook, clean, etc. She had an education so she didn't agree and they split up.

I'm a "permanent resident" in Mexico which was a slightly frustrating process but not difficult really.
I was at the Miami Mexican Consulate seeking a "Temporary resident" visa for the sole purpose of buying private health insurance while I'm in Baja California Sur. The interviewer at the consulate suggested they give me a permanent visa instead, to which I agreed.

In the case of Mexico, the only significant barrier is your income or financial net worth; my net worth was sufficient for permanent resident status. I brought some mutual fund statements to the interview.

I didn't consult a lawyer or anyone else; the expats from USA and Canada usually hire someone.
The single difficulty was the shitty website I had to use for step 2 in Mexico; I had to create an account just to make an appointment with the local office. The website rejected all of the passwords I came up with, then passwords Safari suggested. I finally got one through.

Anecdote: after my interview, the female gave me the cell phone number of her female friend in La Paz "I think she would like to meet you."

Anecdote #2: I forgot to mention, in Jupiter Florida I met a Colombian and her 16 year old daughter. The mother spent her last dime to visit the USA on a tourist visa and had no intention of leaving, ever.
After she and I started "dating", she assumed I would "help her and her daughter" and marry her.
They overstayed their tourist visas and were illegals.
Of course, her pussy power was not that great. I said I was returning to Santa Cruz soon.
A couple of years later she said "You broke my heart." I said "You seem alive to me."
Her daughter was hot and eventually found a sucker to marry her; so now the mother's problems are over because they both live with the sucker and the daughter will get her mother in with "chain migration".
I want them all out of the USA, fuck them all.

clambo says

Shanghai China who married a rich dude, but they were on the rocks after she wanted to learn English and he wanted her to stay home and cook, clean, etc

Well ... hate to say it but that's kinda the story of PatNet's own Turtledove. Eric Sills was only "marriage material" because of his MD job/salary, not his looks (& guessing personality).

clambo says

US Citizens should not be allowed to marry foreigners and confer US Citizenship to others.

Well, if Claire can make me a Britisher then why not vice versa?

ohomen171 says

After the election here in the U.S., there has been a massive amount of interest in the U.S. from people seeking to move to other countries

same as 2016 and they are still here..It's a popular thing to say but It's ok not to really mean it in the new language of 2024. First you state that you are leaving then you state that leaving would be the easy way. Next you say that you are going to stay and fight, which is also a popular thing to say. It's almost makes a person sound heroic. Now woman can also state that they are going to join the 4B movement...That should last about a week for the common slut.

clambo says

A couple of them are still married to the guys.

Why were they SUCKERS?

They're suckers for marrying a girl who is out of their league, who will divorce him after she puts in a couple of years with him.
Actually, I think marrying in general in the USA is for suckers.

Rin says

clambo says

Shanghai China who married a rich dude, but they were on the rocks after she wanted to learn English and he wanted her to stay home and cook, clean, etc

Well ... hate to say it but that's kinda the story of PatNet's own Turtledove. Eric Sills was only "marriage material" because of his MD job/salary, not his looks (& guessing personality).

clambo says

US Citizens should not be allowed to marry foreigners and confer US Citizenship to others.

Well, if Claire can make me a Britisher then why not vice versa?

I have a close friend and I can affirm his account - some women only get moist when they're with men who make $$$$$. I guess it's a female fetish.

clambo says

They're suckers for marrying a girl who is out of their league, who will divorce him after she puts in a couple of years with him.
Actually, I think marrying in general in the USA is for suckers.

Oh so they haven't been married long..You didn't mention that.

komputodo says

Actually, I think marrying in general in the USA is for suckers.

So do i but marrying a mexican woman and staying in Mexico is OK

komputodo says

clambo says

They're suckers for marrying a girl who is out of their league, who will divorce him after she puts in a couple of years with him.
Actually, I think marrying in general in the USA is for suckers.

Oh so they haven't been married long..You didn't mention that.

To paraphrase Musk - it's more important to marry a woman who isn't infected by the feminist mind-virus.

stereotomy says

I have a close friend and I can affirm his account - some women only get moist when they're with men who make $$$$$. I guess it's a female fetish.

Yes and thus, I want Claire to become a millionaire trader before we peer down that avenue where a prenup is essential.

clambo says

I think marrying in general in the USA is for suckers.

I would almost say that that's a corollary to Rin Wah Law but applied for a national jurisdiction.

stereotomy says

To paraphrase Musk - it's more important to marry a woman who isn't infected by the feminist mind-virus.

This is so true!

In the USA the girls stay married long enough to qualify for a green card, which is 2 years I believe.
They dump the sucker soon after.
I neglected to mention another female I know in Florida who was from Venezuela but lived a long time in Mexico, and she was red hot (and illegal).
She got a guy who is a caddy to marry her; she dumped him soon after, but he still "loved her."
(How quaint it is to feel love for a female, that's like loving your dog; he would immediately be loyal to the next person who fed him after you're dead.)
Another "long game" females play is stay married to the guy for 10 years; why 10 you may ask?
After 10 years, she can get his social security pension after he's deceased and even if they are divorced.

clambo says

In the USA the girls stay married long enough to qualify for a green card, which is 2 years I believe.
They dump the sucker soon after.
I neglected to mention another female I know in Florida who was from Venezuela but lived a long time in Mexico, and she was red hot (and illegal).
She got a guy who is a caddy to marry her; she dumped him soon after, but he still "loved her."
(How quaint it is to feel love for a female, that's like loving your dog; he would immediately be loyal to the next person who fed him after you're dead.)
Another "long game" females play is stay married to the guy for 10 years; why 10 you may ask?
After 10 years, she can get his social security pension after he's deceased and even if they are divorced.

Any passport bros need to listen to this man - 2 and 10 are the magic numbers as he says.

I don't see a problem: if you want to ride some above-your-league brown pussy, just sign a prenup and enjoy your 2 years. Or 10. Then rinse and repeat.

A friend of mine had a coworker who went to Russia and got the chicks 90 day fiancé visas.

He spent a bundle on this activity, but he got some awesome girls in the process.

He did this every year or so.

Girls eventually decided he wasn't marriage material, or he told them he didn't want marriage, I don't recall his breakup process.

Rin says

I think he means in terms of doing it 'legally' than being a border runner.

It's not hard legally. My Canadian BIL did it. Maybe it was easier for him because he speaks English, married an American and knows American laws. It's just a long process for residency requirements.

The US is for sure more lax on the immigration "legally" than most countries is my point. What do you think Latino baseball players do playing 162 or more games. They get their citizenship after the 5 years. And sure the league probably helps with it, but it's not hard to get US citizenship. It's just paperwork and living here for a while which is trivial unless you want to live in your home country. Then you're likely fucked and don't want to be an American citizen anyway. There would be no point in being here.

clambo says

(How quaint it is to feel love for a female, that's like loving your dog; he would immediately be loyal to the next person who fed him after you're dead.)

LOL! A friend in Santa Cruz has a neighbor he is friends with who married a Ukrainian woman who dumped him after she got the citizenship docs. He is still obsessed with her and she still dumb sticks him as he pines for her twat, even after she has other boyfriends (targets?). They still get together in SF where she lives now once in a while. I would hate to be that kind of cuck, and he's a nice guy, smart and pleasant to talk with. He inherited a rental complex behind my friend (he lives in one of the units) and they talk over the fence all the time.

The Ukrainian woman was well educated and worked for an oligarch in the ports of Odessa, but made it over here before the recent war gigs. The cuck ex toured Ukraine extensively when he had met her and is quite informed about the country.

Most men who marry foreign want women who are feminine, know their role, won't deny sex or use sex exploitively to excess, and will be handy servant appliances. As stated, if the men are outclassed, the women often will move on to greener wallets.

WookieMan says

What do you think Latino baseball players do playing 162 or more games. They get their citizenship after the 5 years. And sure the league probably helps with it

This is a class of visas known as 'extraordinary ability or achievement' and yes, it includes athletes, not just the Albert Einsteins, which is why the MLB, NBA, etc, are able to recruit globally w/o too much pushback from immigration.

WookieMan says

married an American

That's the K-3 visa and since Canadians can come & go, as a tourist for 6 mos at a shot, it's really just a waiting game for him as taking a day off to do a roundtrip from Detroit to Windsor and back.