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'bout these tariffs...


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2024 Nov 18, 5:35pm   677 views  32 comments

by Eric Holder   ➕follow (5)   ignore (3)  

I keep hearing about 20% tariff on this and 60% tariff on that and how in 1890s there were tariffs on everything and the economy was booming yada-yada-yada.... And it's all fine and dandy, but what is conspicuosly absent from all this chatter is anything about the abolishment of FIT. Because there was no FIT in 1890s, was there?

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10   MolotovCocktail   2024 Dec 3, 8:51am  

clambo says


Actually, she's got to be bluffing.


Yup. And Justin is prolly pissed at Trump's team leaking out about this, too:

DOGEWontAmountToShit says







Trump knew what he was doing. He knows the psychological hang-ups Canadians have vs a vs America and how to push buttons.

Now when Justin faces the music about this with what's left of independent media in Canada, he'll be pressed about 'selling out to America!'.

More likely, it come in the form of an attack ad in the upcoming elections.

The reality is: Mexico and Canada are owned lock, stock & barrel by us...at (short) arm's length. Canada more so because they tend compete more than complement American firms at the higher value supply chain. Whereas Mexico complements our companies very well. Mexican workers are now more skilled/productive than Chinese and at least 1/2 cheaper.

That will change as Mexico keeps climbing the national wealth ladder and their birthrates collapse as bad as Canada's has. But that will take another generation AND we will benefit enormously by exporting to their young high consumption market in the meantime before 'the end'.

Mexico, in fact, will need it's 'own Mexico' as they and it's workers trade up the value chain production ladder. Columbia is a good candidate as is right now. Cuba would be excellent but needs a lot of initial investment.

Don't try explaining any of this to a Canadian. They don't like hearing any of it.
13   Eric Holder   2025 Mar 4, 11:31am  

Soo, any news about that income tax being abolished?
14   Patrick   2025 Mar 4, 12:33pm  


The President of Mexico signed an official
document ordering tariffs on products made in
the United States.


Lol, this just means that the Mexican border will be permeable in the other direction now, and US products will flow south illegally.
21   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 4, 3:08pm  

THIS is what I voted for!
22   Patrick   2025 Mar 4, 4:28pm  

Hey, Canada is the largest producer of toxic rapeseed oil, branded "Canola" oil for "Canadian oil".

So tariffs on that are likely to make Americans healthier! Win-win!
25   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 8, 9:35pm  

Remember: There are no Tariffs on US-made, or largely US-made, goods

You only pay a tariff on foreign goods! So it's a tax you can avoid by buying American.

And companies can avoid it by manufacturing in America and selecting or producing US made components.


The case in which it may sometimes be a matter of deliberation how far it is proper to continue the free importation of certain foreign goods, is, when some foreign nation restrains by high duties or prohibitions the importation of some of our manufactures into their country. Revenge in this case naturally dictates retaliation, and that we should impose the like duties and prohibitions upon the importation of some or all of their manufactures into ours. …There may be good policy in retaliations of this kind, when there is a probability that they will procure the repeal of the high duties or prohibitions complained of. The recovery of a great foreign market will generally more than compensate the transitory inconveniency of paying dearer during a short time for some sorts of goods.

Smith, Adam. An Inquiry Into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations (Cannan ed.), vol. 1. Methuen, 1776, p. 433. Online Library of Liberty, https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/smith-an-inquiry-into-the-nature-and-causes-of-the-wealth-of-nations-cannan-ed-vol-1.
26   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 8, 9:47pm  

The first instance of the "Invisible Hand" in Smith's book is positive for domestic manufacture, not hostile.


By preferring the support of domestic to that of foreign industry, he intends only his own security; and by directing that industry in such a manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention.Nor is it always the worse for the society that it was no part of it. By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it. I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public good. It is an affectation, indeed, not very common among merchants, and very few words need be employed in dissuading them from it.

Smith, Adam. An Inquiry Into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations (Cannan ed.), vol. 1. Methuen, 1776. Online Library of Liberty, https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/smith-an-inquiry-into-the-nature-and-causes-of-the-wealth-of-nations-cannan-ed-vol-1.
27   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 8, 9:49pm  

Similarly, Amazon and Walmart do NOT have the best interest of American Society in mind when they fight against Tariffs.
28   HeadSet   2025 Mar 9, 1:18pm  

Patrick says





Vermont maple syrup is far better than that thin Canadian stuff anyway.
29   stereotomy   2025 Mar 10, 12:40pm  

Vermont maple syrup is made by Yankees. Canadian maple syrup is made by socialists/commies.
30   RWSGFY   2025 Mar 10, 9:12pm  

Fuck syrup - I don't eat sugar if I can help it.

Where is my FIT abolishment?
31   HeadSet   2025 Mar 11, 6:38am  

RWSGFY says

I don't eat sugar if I can help it.

One sip of my cousin's sweet tea and you will be set for life.
32   AmericanKulak   2025 Mar 11, 6:46pm  

The Tariff argument is now... over.

Reverse Kramer confirms Tariffs are the best remedy.

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