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Seems like alot of dumb and misguided hatred on "insurance" companies by some on the Right in the rage-fest this week.

As if the health insurance industry's whopping 5% profit margin is the reason why US healthcare is so expensive and inaccessible to some? Anyone think the government could manage all payments, coverages, negotiations (and yes - rationing) between healthcare providers and recipients more efficiently and equitably than private insurance does at $0.05 on the dollar?

The major costs of our healthcare is the cost of doctors, nurses, hospitals, facilities, drugs and hospital administrators navigating through all the regulatory hoops government has thrown at this heavily regulated industry.

Are Leftists going to start gunning down high paid doctors, nurses and drug CEO's next?

Booger says

OMFG I did almost spit out my drink.

1. Every leftwing group is trying to claim this guy
2. Phenotype checks out.

Just sounds like slander to me.

Patrick says

Just sounds like slander to me.

Radar is a Left LGBTQ mag, so "We're taking credit, he's our guy. The hero is from our group." struck me. But yeah, I see how it could be slander.

Homos love projecting their lifestyles on fantasy objects, even non-homos.

I'm beginning to think this whole assassination was another head fake. The executive was likely exfiltrated. He may be under some kind of protection or projected alias or he may be killed covertly later. He is another man who knows too much. The company might be an intriguing intersection of politicians and organized crime.

https://www.rt.com/news/609350-us-woman-terrorism-insurance/

A Florida woman has been arrested for allegedly threatening an insurance firm that denied her medical claim, using words from the scene of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’ fatal shooting. The suspect, 42-year-old Briana Boston, has been charged with threats to conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism, ABC News reported Friday, citing an arrest affidavit.

The incident reportedly occurred on Tuesday, when Boston was speaking by phone with a representative from the Blue Cross Blue Shield insurance company, seeking to challenge the firm’s denial of her medical claim. When the representative reiterated that the claim had been denied, Boston allegedly became aggressive, and said “Delay, deny, depose. You people are next.”

The three-word slogan has been making headlines this month, since being found written on bullet shell casings left at the scene of Brian Thompson’s death in New York. The words appear to be a reference to the “delay, deny, defend” strategy some insurance companies have been accused of using when dealing with expensive medical claims – meaning delaying a decision, denying the claim and defending themselves against disputes.

According to police, when questioned, Boston admitted to using the words, but said she did so because “it is what is in the news right now.” She also said insurance companies “are evil” and “deserve karma,” but claimed that she owned no guns and did not plan to carry out her threat. The woman has been charged with a second-degree felony and is currently awaiting trial at a Polk County jail, facing up to 15 years in prison if convicted.

Doesn't sound like she actually made any credible threat.

In fact, this sounds like a threat by the CEOs to violate the First Amendment and imprison anyone who questions their right to eternal despotic rule by impenetrable phone-tree bureaucracy.

https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/mcdonalds-presents-employee-who-caught-shooter-with-coupon-good-for-1-free-large-drink-with-purchase-of-a-food-item

https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/now-now-lets-not-be-so-hasty-to-find-and-assassinate-everyone-responsible-for-the-healthcare-crisis-says-nervous-obama



To be fair, health care sucked in the US even before Obamacare.

https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/assassin-luigi-mangione-takes-lead-in-2028-democratic-primary-polls



Well, Democrats are clearly the party of violence, so that makes sense.

https://www.rt.com/news/609486-us-wealthy-boosting-private-security/

Demand for bulletproof homes surging in US – Bloomberg

The ultra-rich have boosted spending on private security, especially after the assassination of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO

US billionaires have ramped up personal and residential security over the past few years, installing bulletproof fittings and panic rooms, Bloomberg has reported.

Private security firms had been in high demand even before the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson earlier this month, the outlet said on Monday, but the killing has sparked a new wave of spending on security. ...

The sense of insecurity increased after the assassination of the UnitedHealthcare boss, who was gunned down outside a Hilton hotel in central Manhattan a week ago. Some online users on social media reacted positively to Thompson’s killing, while ‘wanted’ posters appeared across New York encouraging targeting other executives.

Why 2nd degree and not 1st?

Why the terrorism charge?

Something is not right here.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Why 2nd degree and not 1st?

Why the terrorism charge?

Something is not right here.

What was his most obvious motive? Personal revenge? He didn't know the guy and wasn't even fucking UHC customer, afaik.What else? Once you answer this question and look up a certain definition it becomes perfectly clear that unless the perp is insane this is the only logical charge.

RWSGFY says

What was his most obvious motive? Personal revenge?

1st degree is premeditated.

You telling me this wasn't premeditated?

'Delay', 'Deny' and 'Depose' etched on the bullet casings by Divine Intervention?

Next to DC courts, New York is the most egregious Potemkin Kangaroo Court movie set for the Intels and Deep State, attempting to coin through their selective justice trials and depraved judges the templates for removing the Constitution and abusing lawfare taxation.

Who knows. Maybe this 'assassination' or 'fake assassination' was set up specifically for this show trial purpose to start the persecution of anything they don't like under the rubric of terrorism.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

RWSGFY says

What was his most obvious motive? Personal revenge?

1st degree is premeditated.

You telling me this wasn't premeditated?

'Delay', 'Deny' and 'Depose' etched on the bullet casings by Divine Intervention?

No, I'm talking about motive. What was he trying to achieve and why?

I dunno, he could've been trying to make a citizen's arrest and the perp resisted arrest. -- Let a jury decide.

41% of people say they are ok with the killing.

Misc says

41% of people say they are ok with the killing.

Probably more people are ok with it. Americans don't like unethical ways of making money.

gabbar says

Misc says

41% of people say they are ok with the killing.

Probably more people are ok with it. Americans don't like unethical ways of making money.

It's just money. Killing a man with kids is awful. Unless you assaulted or molested by kid, I'll never kill anyone. Money can be made again. More harm would be done just not paying the co-pay and deductible and taking the credit ding. The profit goes down and he loses his job if more people did that. It's not government. Can't garnish wages or lien your home.

The problem is most Americans want their toys and empty status so they buy things on credit. So they don't want medical bills to go into collections. Always get yourself into a situation that your credit eventually doesn't matter. 6-8 months away from that where I could give no shits about my credit. If I'm making $400k, what do I need credit for? I could literally go ape shit and drop $100k on my 15 cards and just not pay them. You don't have to file BK.

Federal government (IRS) and local government, property taxes generally are the only ones with authority to collect from you or lien. Your debt is technically paid when it goes into collections. Dealing with this on medical bills currently from the post office work. I'm not paying it and haven't and can still go to the doc. I don't answer my phone unless I know the number. NEVER accept certified mail or something that requires a signature that comes out of nowhere or you didn't order.

Make yourself a pseudo name as well that you can remember on demand. "Are you John Doe" (your actual name) you just say no I'm Brad Smith. I don't have an ID. I'm disabled and don't have to drive so don't have an ID.

And yes this is unethical, but so is killing another human if not worse. Just don't pay them if you want to fight them. Just know what you have to do.

Misc says

41% of people say they are ok with the killing.

I'm pretty sure it's much higher than 41%.

"Tony Ronzoni" needs to get the electric chair.

Misc says

I dunno, he could've been trying to make a citizen's arrest and the perp resisted arrest. -- Let a jury decide.

41% of people say they are ok with the killing.

I have a strong hunch as to where these 41% fall on the IQ bell curve.

WookieMan says

Killing a man with kids is awful.

Did the actions of this man, the company he was the CEO of and other companies in this industry harm the lives of Americans? Who committed the greater harm, Luigi or Brian?

Older Americans don't understand the relatively hard present and future problems young Americans are likely to face.

gabbar says

WookieMan says

Killing a man with kids is awful.

Did the actions of this man, the company he was the CEO of and other companies in this industry harm the lives of Americans? Who committed the greater harm?

Harmed how? By refusing some claims? Is every claim automatically valid in your world? There is no fraud, hypochondria and outright mental illness in it? For all we know the bulk of there rejected claims could be sex change operations. 🤡 Or fatasses demanding Ozempic instead of eating less and moving more.

What is the alternative? Government healthcare? We have that in spades. Somehow not everybody is happy with it either.

gabbar says

Older Americans don't understand the relatively hard present and future problems young Americans are likely to face.

I remember all the hand-wringing and perl-clutching about Millenials supposedly having no future and being relegated to abject poverty. Turns out they are doing just fine and already holding about 10% of total wealth in the US. Charts like that most of all illustrate the results of the demoralization campaign unleashed at the population over the last quarter of the century.

One thing missing from these staged 'assassinations' is any description of the chain of hospitalization or auxiliaries in the chain being interviewed, or even coroner follow up. On TV programs, you always have these lengthy hospital bed scenes where the person lingers until death surrounded by people. Most gunshot victims do survive for variable times afterwards.

Deep State of course will enlist stunt pathologists if that is even required.

With the stagies, it's almost from immediate, absolute death on the scene, to some obscure transport to crematorium, like all the after effects of the shooting vaporize because they aren't necessary to the narrative. The excessive bull horning around the patsy preoccupies the waves.

RWSGFY says

What is the alternative? Government healthcare?

The alternative is to present every non-emergency bill in advance of treatment instead of hiding the prices until they show up in the mail. Any charge not approved and signed by the patient in advance of treatment would not need to be paid.

If people could shop around, US medical costs would be massively reduced.

Emergency costs should be fixed at reasonable prices by law, because there can be no shopping in emergencies.

The point of health insurance is only to share the costs of devastating illness, not to be needed on every visit like it is now. Insurance could then go back to that function.