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gabbar says

Patrick says

So who was Epstein's handler? Someone at Mossad?

Mossad is NEVER out of the picture, I suspect.

I suspect that the reason we never got any full explanation of the assassination of President Kennedy is that it was ultimately Israelis who killed him because he didn't want them to have the bomb.

I don't know that it's true, but I do know that criticism of Israel is simply not allowed in the corporate press, ever, no matter what they do.

Kind of like how the corporate press never mentions that black people kill while people at about 20x the reverse rate. Never ever on TV or in the NY Times. White people are expected to let themselves be murdered by racists and never complain.

Patrick says

I suspect that the reason we never got any full explanation of the assassination of President Kennedy is that it was ultimately Israelis who killed him because he didn't want them to have the bomb.

Why did it take until the 2010s for this to even be a theory? I've read everything from Lane to Garrison to Mars to Stone, and not once was Mossad ever brought up even as a sidebar. Kennedy was massively pro-Israel ( https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/new-york-ny-19600826 ) Watched every Documentary or Movie from "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" to "JFK". I've heard that the OAS was involved. Always the Mafia punishing the Kennedys for their betrayal, and the CIA mad he shut down Bay of Pigs and was going to deescalate in Nam. There's literally nothing in the so-far declassified archives on anything Israel or Mossad either.

And Roger Stone is not a huge Israel fan.

This is just a Qatari TV smear which I've described before. One PFLP/PIJ guy on Qatari TV suggesting it once, then 'helpfully' translated from Arabic into English when it appeared in Humbug newsletters and sites.

Whenever I asked RichWicks for any evidence he had nothing, just a motive theory. It was US policy to have non-proliferation, even with France and Britain.

Stone's book is one of the latest (giving him access to more docs) and most comprehensive views of the JFK assassination, and he's right. It was Hoover, the CIA, and the Mob, with LBJ benefiting greatly, right down to his big Air Cav contract for his Texas cronies and long time donor Bell Helicopter. LBJ was the first candidate to campaign by helicopter.

AmericanKulak says

Why did it take until the 2010s for this to even be a theory?

Maybe it wasn't possible before to even suggest it.

But that said, I obviously don't really know, just speculating on why the details of Kennedy's assassination are still secret more than 60 years later.

Clearly someone or some group is being protected.

https://anti-empire.com/how-the-assassination-of-jfk-may-have-saved-the-israeli-nuclear-program/

What was at stake was the future of Israel’s nuclear program. Kennedy, with an exceptionally strong commitment to nuclear nonproliferation, was determined to do all he could to prevent Israel from producing nuclear weapons. Ben-Gurion (and later Eshkol) were equally determined to complete the Dimona project. For them, nuclear capability was an indispensable insurance policy against existential threats to Israel. The exchange between the American president and the two prime ministers illustrates both Kennedy’s tenacity and the Israeli leaders’ recalcitrance.

Earlier this week, we published – on the website of the National Security Archive – a collection of nearly 50 American documents from U.S. archives that illuminate for the first time the full scope of this secret American-Israeli confrontation. The collection includes not only the entire exchange of messages between the leaders – Kennedy, Ben-Gurion and Eshkol – but also many related American documents, some of which were declassified and became available only in recent months.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2019-05-02/battle-letters-1963-john-f-kennedy-david-ben-gurion-levi-eshkol-us-inspections-dimona

None of this is evidence; none of it has to do with the Assassination itself. It's simply a search for a motive to pin it on Israel.

"Ziobad, so let me see if a motive can be built. Nothing about Oswald, Dealey Plaza, Warren Commission, etc. to pin on the Mossad, not one shred of evidence, not one Mossad agent seen in Dallas area, etc. etc."

A proposed motive != Evidence.

The site's "Team" is one guy:

Marko Marjanović – Editor:

2014 – 2019: Chief day-to-day editor for Russia Insider.

https://anti-empire.com/team/

A quick peek at the last few months reveals Marjanovic's interests: Good North Korea, Good CCP, Bad USA, Bad Israel, Good Yemen, M'poor Gaza, Serbian Russophiles smile in Moscow at destroyed Western Equipment on Display. He even calls the Ukraine-Russia conflict the "Slavgrinder" And very anti-Trump: https://anti-empire.org/p/trump-assembles-a-war-cabinet

In other words, the Shia (Qatar, Iran, Hezbollah, Assad Syria) Slav (Russia, Serbs & EO) Alliance propaganda.

I'm looking for evidence that Mossad/Israel was involved in the JFK assassination. Anybody can come up with a theory. "JFK was assassinated by CIA because he demanded debreifing UFOs by Feb 1964." - Written November 12th, 1963! That's the cincher right there!
https://www.livescience.com/33224-new-declassified-memos-jfk-kennedy-ufos-assassination.html

LBJ certainly had a motive, and the assassination happened on his home turf.

Well, Mossad is the Europlex's blame magnet Swiss Army Knife utility (not the they are blameless), so may as well use them for every convenient eventuality as if they have universal agency. Besides, it deflects the karma away from the head to delegate it to a tentacle.

Patrick says

LBJ certainly had a motive, and the assassination happened on his home turf.

All in Stone's book, learned so much shit about him. Basically with the Kennedy's being real popular, and RFK already discussed as the 1968 candidate, and LBJ being sidelined, his last chance at the Presidency was to see JFK gone.

Still, I bet it was a confluence of interests that wanted to kill JFK, and the Israel lobby may have been one of those interests. We won't really know until the files are completely open, and maybe not even then.

The Zionist founders and leaders of Israel were above all assassins. Truman recognized Isreal after he was almost assassinated. Before that, chief administrators of the British Mandate in Palestine were continuous targets for assassination, quite a few of which were successful. Hell, the PLO learned all their terrorist kit from all the dirty tricks the Zionists employed to steal a country.

Did the Mossad kill Kennedy? Maybe not, but they most likely provided logistics.

Zionists are the heirs of Barabbas, equally as murderous.

Not a bad start of the defense.

Well, they do, it's just really fucked up.

Insurance should be for catastrophic care only, and all medical providers should be obligated to post all prices and give a complete and accurate bill in advance of treatment to enable patients to shop around.

stereotomy says

The Zionist founders and leaders of Israel were above all assassins. Truman recognized Isreal after he was almost assassinated. Before that, chief administrators of the British Mandate in Palestine were continuous targets for assassination, quite a few of which were successful. Hell, the PLO learned all their terrorist kit from all the dirty tricks the Zionists employed to steal a country.

Did the Mossad kill Kennedy? Maybe not, but they most likely provided logistics.

Zionists are the heirs of Barabbas, equally as murderous.

Motive postulating != evidence.

We got a ton of circumstantial evidence for the Mob, Hoover, and the LBJ crew. Jack Ruby himself fingered LBJ.

Again, 50 years of JFK researchers and nobody has any Mossad connection until a former PFLP terrorist goes on Qatari TV around 2010 and says "Mossad did it" and refuses to elaborate. Suddenly, this is sent to Western Judenhassers, Monomaniacs who "know" the Secret Oppressor find it, and it's promulgated.

Either everybody from Mark Lane to Jim Garrison to Mars to Stone to Zirbel sucks balls, or it's just an destabilization op from the Shia.

Patrick says

Insurance should be for catastrophic care only,

You are right, and those types of policies used to be available.

Then government started telling Insurance Companies what they had to cover (and the Insurers loved it because new revenue streams). If car insurance worked like health insurance you'd be paying $400 a month for your policy but it would cover oil changes.

AmericanKulak says

or it's just an destabilization op from the Shia.

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https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/unitedhealth-ceo-finally-addresses-outrage

The_Deplorable says

That a dude or a chick?

stfu says

Then government started telling Insurance Companies what they had to cover (and the Insurers loved it because new revenue streams). If car insurance worked like health insurance you'd be paying $400 a month for your policy but it would cover oil changes.

It started with this shitty bill, H.R.7974, that MANDATED employers with more than 25 employees to offer HMOs. Since healthier, younger workers chose the cheaper but more restrictive HMO, it raised the costs for the traditional indemnity plans who were 'stuck' with the middle and senior and health-issue workers without being able to spread it to the lower risk categories.

With time, most employers stopped offering traditional indemnity plans altogether.

It had plenty of Liberal Republican Co-sponsors from the Midwest.

I woinder how many billions of dollars and tragic consequences could be avoided if the ol' Second Opinion was at least partially covered. HMOs led the way in doing away with that, and now we have the infamous FUNNEL

AmericanKulak says

stfu says

Then government started telling Insurance Companies what they had to cover (and the Insurers loved it because new revenue streams). If car insurance worked like health insurance you'd be paying $400 a month for your policy but it would cover oil changes.

It started with this shitty bill that MANDATED employers to offer HMOs. All the younger, childless, healthier workers took the HMO, ruining the old indemnity and catastrophic plans employers used to offer.

I remember those days. Constant propaganda on TV about how both choices (HMO and PPO) were the best thing ever because it gave us a "choice".

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2025/06/03/ceo-convicted-in-1-billion-medicare-fraud-scheme-n2658135

A federal jury convicted the CEO of Power Mobility Doctor Rx, LLC, of deliberately exploiting the federal health care system by focusing on self-serving financial gain over the medical needs of patients.

Gary Cox for his role in operating a platform that generated false doctors’ orders to defraud Medicare and other federal health care benefit programs of more than $1 billion. According to court documents, Cox, along with his co-conspirators, exploited hundreds of thousands of Medicare beneficiaries by misleading them into accepting unnecessary medical items like orthotic braces and pain creams. They used an online platform, DMERx, to generate fake doctors’ orders and facilitate illegal kickbacks and bribes between telemedicine providers, pharmacies, and marketers. In return, Cox and his team profited by coordinating these fraudulent transactions and selling the bogus orders.