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Have you heard the idea that the critical factor in cancer is the defeat of the telomere mechanism which limits the number of cell divisions? So cancer cells, which no longer have a Hayflick limit on cell division, all their descendants, become "immortal" until their uncontrolled reproduction kills the host. And this is why Henrietta Lacks' cancer cells are still growing nicely in labs around the world something like 75 years after her death.

Maybe this all has to do with some billionaires wanting to be immortal and experimenting with using mRNA for both killing off cancers and at the same time defeating the telomere mechanism.

Just speculating.

Patrick says

Have you heard the idea that the critical factor in cancer is the defeat of the telomere mechanism which limits the number of cell divisions? So cancer cells, which no longer have a Hayflick limit on cell division, all their descendants, become "immortal" until their uncontrolled reproduction kills the host. And this is why Henrietta Lacks' cancer cells are still growing nicely in labs around the world something like 75 years after her death.

No I have not; sounds interesting. Back in my wet lab days I worked with her cells (HELA cells) for tissue culture. We were screening angiogenesis inhibitors in the 90s which was supposed to be THE! CURE! for cancer. Every decade we think we have some new tech that's a cure all. Polygenic Risk Scores is a recent one that flopped too. Mostly we fail and I'm thinking this stargate thing will too at least in large part but maybe that's not really what it's for.

The upcoming decade or so is going to be all about synthetic biology though. FWIW, mRNAs are a teeny tiny subsection of that. Hopefully that brings great things and won't be forced on people.

Patrick says

Maybe this all has to do with some billionaires wanting to be immortal

It absolutely 100% is. I worked for one of their companies before I understood what the WEF etc., was. Our goal was definitely life extension in general. We even had a clinic but only billionaires and high net worth millionaires showed up. Gates, top echelon of China etc., and people like that were in our parking lot going to the clinic. I worked upstairs analyzing genomes and I never knew who's was who's. That's when I learned about transhumanism and that BS. Ray Kurzweil was touting us. He's pumping fountainlife.com lately.

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

Back in my wet lab days I worked with her cells (HELA cells) for tissue culture. We were screening angiogenesis inhibitors in the 90s which was supposed to be THE! CURE! for cancer.

I remember that. Judah Folkman was working on it. I was pre-med and had a lab tech job at Harvard Medical School after undergrad. His name came up there. I never did go to medical school though.

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

It absolutely 100% is.

OK, maybe we're getting closer. Maybe Bill Gates is willing to kill whomever it takes to do research about living forever.

Patrick says

I never did go to medical school though.

Smart move. I made the same choice.

Patrick says

Judah Folkman was working on it.

I was at Sugen:

Judah Folkman collaborated with Sugen, a biotechnology company, on research aimed at developing anti-angiogenic therapies. Sugen, which was later acquired by Pharmacia & Upjohn for $650 million, was working on a molecule called SU6668.

After that I quit because I didn't want to work for pharma.

https://jennasside.rocks/p/is-trump-tricking-us-or-trolling

Is Trump Tricking Us or Trolling Them?
With more mRNA vaccines on the menu, what is POTUS’s position, anyway?

Imagine my nausea dismay when on Trump’s first full day of his second official term, he invited not the world’s most renowned medical researchers or cancer surgeons or even that one fellow who graduated at the top of his class from the Royal College but a trio of tech bros to speak at a press conference on… the future of medicine.

If you had to guess what the future of medicine is in this context—as in, according to some computer geeks summoned by the same guy who won’t backpedal a single inch on the deadly, unmitigated disaster that was Operation Warp Speed—in a single phrase, what would it be?

Surely you already know the answer absent of my little poll, and the gist is this: These Doctors of Technocracy (Oracle CTO Larry Ellison, OpenAI co-founder Sam Altman, and Softbank CEO Masayoshi Son) believe that AI is going to revolutionize healthcare by—wait for it—being able to analyze a blood sample to detect cancer and then within 48 hours [Operation Ultra Mega Quantum Mach Speed Plus!] creating a personalized mRNA vaccine for that unique individual that will obliterate only the harmful cells. ...

People are rightfully pissed about that mRNA vaccine part of “The Stargate Project,” as this proposed AI infrastructure is known. After all, ICYMI, published, peer-reviewed studies have shown that Covid mRNA “vaccines” have killed millions [*not a typo] of people—and harmed or incapacitated countless more. The best analogy I can come up with is if Apple suddenly (and proudly!) announced they were going to start outfitting their smartphones with the exact same battery that was recalled after hundreds of models spontaneously caught fire or exploded. ...

“Who’s excited about getting their warp-speeded AI generated MRNA vaccines?? #MAHA” and “Yes. We definitely need more vax warp-speeding because apparently nobody has had the balls to tell [Trump] how badly it worked out the first time around [SMH emoji].” ...

The believers out here desperately wanted our new-old Commander in Chief to call a Day One press conference—ideally with Bobby glued to his side and a few feisty folks like Doc Malik, Peter McCullough, Aseem Malhotra, and Del Bigtree fielding questions—to highlight the dangers of the Covid death jabs and announce their plans to a) promptly prosecute the perpetrators and b) prevent a similar democide from ever happening again. We don’t want to hear Bobby insist, for the eleventy billionth time, that he’s not anti-vaccine, he just wants to make sure vaccines are appropriately tested for safety and efficacy. We want him to shout from the rooftops—while waving the receipts we know he has, if it’s not too much trouble—that no vaccines have ever been appropriately tested for safety and efficacy. We want Peter Doocy to ask the panel point-blank if Operation Warp Speed was a grave mistake, and then we want POTUS himself to step forward and admit that yes, it most certainly and tragically was—and that he’s going to swiftly and mercilessly punish every last party involved (after explaining how his own participation and lack of groveling until this point is in fact guiltless, of course).

I find it creepy that Ellison funded the Lawrence J. Ellison Institute for Transformative Medicine:

https://www.biospace.com/lawrence-j-ellison-institute-for-transformative-medicine-of-usc-announces-new-home-in-west-l-a

The original site is gone, but archived:

https://web.archive.org/web/20210125011223/https://ellison.usc.edu/