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Only 118 pages. Seems short compared to most bills, and certainly compared to the 1,500 page porkulous predecessor.

Gotta have that debt ceiling extended. It's how the Uniparty intends on throttling Trump's Agenda, since tax cuts and policy changes of MAGA = spending according to how GAO/Congressional Rules calculate budgets.

Debt ceiling is all showmanship anyway, they just raise it every time it's reached.

I also did a search for "vaccine" and "pandemic" and nothing came up.

Flipped through the whole thing. Really boring, which is probably a goal of the bill. They don't want anyone getting too interested in how taxpayer money is being spent.

The climate change waste is there it's buried in the billions for disaster relief. I like the 1 million for the New Mexico wildfire that was started by the forestry dept. the largest ever in the state.

AmericanKulak says

Gotta have that debt ceiling extended.

But couldn't we live with the current debt ceiling if DOGE managed to cut enough pork?

Patrick says

But couldn't we live with the current debt ceiling if DOGE managed to cut enough pork?

Maybe but DOGE is going to take a while.

Trump wants to get his Stop Double Taxed Soc Sec, No Tax on Working Hard (O/T), No Tax on Tips through. Since Congress counts tax cuts as spending... the ceiling would get in the way.

"Trump's tax cuts would bust the debt ceiling in just 4 years! It's a no-go according to the Rules Committee. The Lobbyists estimate the tax revenue from tariffs wouldn't offset, so both Middle Class tax cuts and tariffs are a no go. Meanwhile we'll continue to give tax credits to companies that hire TPS migrants through the workfare program""

Bill Passed.

Trump wins with a relatively clean bill, third time the charm.
https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1870259668398059767

AmericanKulak says

Maybe but DOGE is going to take a while.

As someone that has worked with a US House Rep, it's not happening. They'll make minor cuts here and there. Nothing significant. It will be like $200-500M of bull shit programs. Drop in the bucket. We need $200-500B with a B. Just not gonna happen.

Fact is Congress is the problem. Until people realize this and take those races seriously it will never change. Especially Senators. House seats are easy to be had if you get a popular business person to buy in on running. Which they should be vetting right now and making sure they can win and fund a campaign in the district. Republicans are retarded about this though.

WookieMan says

As someone that has worked with a US House Rep, it's not happening. They'll make minor cuts here and there. Nothing significant. It will be like $200-500M of bull shit programs. Drop in the bucket. We need $200-500B with a B. Just not gonna happen.

That's why we have to doubt the shit out of the "Freedom Caucus". Their goal is NOT to implement DOGE recommendations, NOT to pass the Trump Deportations, Tax Cuts, or American Agenda, but to bind it up in bullshit "Ceilings" that they (inc. Massie) were happy to suspend for Biden and CRs that increased funding for everything with no questions or cuts.

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Yes. By the "true conservatives" voting no to push back the redemption of the debt ceiling, it limits Trump's ability to enact his MAGA agenda from Deportations to tax cuts.

The "true conservatives" are playing games talking about a debt ceiling that hasn't been there since june 2023 are hoping conservatives fall for their stupid shit and support them while they make it very hard for Trump to enact his agenda. Pay attention. They are lying to you. They know this. Mace, Massie, and all 38 who voted no know this. They all know this. They will tell you all day long that they want mass deportations and lower taxes, but then vote against those things when they think you are too stupid to understand their vote.

https://x.com/unseen1_unseen/status/1869930713761366164

One wonders if the Jersey Drone Bullshit was part of the plan. They ALL know what they are doing, they are not stupid. Mace, Roy, Massie, they all know. Just like Johnson said months ago no last minute CR, and yet he did just that.