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2024 Dec 30, 7:29pm   5,347 views  234 comments

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https://www.amren.com/features/2024/12/india-its-worse-than-you-think/


India: It’s Worse Than You Think

Most Westerners know nothing about India beyond vague ideas about Hinduism, yoga, gurus, and maybe a dash of Bollywood. To such people, this article will be a rude awakening. ...

I had first returned to India with the idea of improving it, but after 11 years, I realized that India was a sinking ship, with worsening and increasingly shameless corruption, degraded people, and a society that was falling apart. I had never met an honest bureaucrat or politician. I applied to emigrate to Canada and my application was approved in a record three weeks.

I now advise East Asian and Western corporations on investing in India. Most of what I tell them sounds to them exaggerated, unrealistic, and unbelievable. After much dance, drama, and a great deal of lost money, they begin to believe what I tell them. However, this learning is never institutionalized because of a refusal to understand India. This is a form of political correctness, a poison eating away the innards of Western values.

When I was a child growing up in India, I learned that “might makes right.” Power was often abused, with those in control acting as if they had a God-given right to exploit and dominate others. The display of authority could be so extreme that questioning it or expecting those in power to do their duty might lead to retribution. Those in authority seemed to believe that their positions were not for serving others but for personal gain.

People who showed respect appeared to have meekly accepted a lower, subservient position. Kind people had to hide their compassion, for being nice was seen as a weakness.

In India, I have rarely seen someone in authority take the initiative to solve a problem he was responsible for. When I was at university, an underaged boy who worked in the kitchen was raped and sodomized by the janitors. I reported the matter, but not only did no one in authority do what was right — something well within their power — the authorities and fellow students threatened me with severe consequences if I pursued the matter further. Devoid of empathy, they also made fun of the boy and me.

Yes, there is an element of sadism here. There is some degree of pleasure that Indians take in the pain suffered by others. The attitude of the authorities was like that of the high-placed Delhi bureaucrat who told me that his Black Label whiskey tastes so much better because he knows that most Indians can’t afford to drink it.

This confuses Westerners. If they had power, even if they were corrupt, in a situation where there was nothing to gain or lose — no bribes to receive since both parties were poor, and no risk of offending someone well-connected — they would do the right thing and book the alleged rapist. These Indians would do nothing, not even lift a finger, unless there was a reward: money or sex. Their apathy was bottomless.


The article goes on about how incredibly low-trust India is as a society.

True? Any people from India want to opine on this?

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198   MolotovCocktail   2025 May 9, 5:53pm  




I LOVE how the 'i' in BRICS is being attacked with weapons supplied by the 'c' in BRICS.
199   KgK one   2025 May 9, 7:46pm  

US used to give tons of $ and weapons to pakistan to do attacks n terrorism. Pakistan betrayed us n aligned with china. Pakistan was also hiding bin ladin n trained 9/11 terrorists. Now pakistan is with china so usa is happy to bring it down. In case of war with china, they need to stop supply routes to China, pakistan route gives china fast access to middle east oil n africa resources.

https://youtube.com/shorts/L1KIGijU_-8?si=UOyIRpdDqUI7HmBV
200   Patrick   2025 May 9, 9:07pm  

Good point. Pakistan makes a single bridge country from China to the Arabian Sea:


201   ElYorsh   2025 May 9, 9:25pm  




https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/09/china/china-military-tech-pakistan-india-conflict-intl-hnk

Is the current conflict between India and Pakistan part of the tariff negotiations?

Chyna giving a live demo?
202   Patrick   2025 May 9, 9:28pm  

Could be. China has a motive to undermine India's ability to take manufacturing dominance away.
203   AmericanKulak   2025 May 9, 10:05pm  

Chinese drones are getting shot down left and right by India.

Pakiwood TV claiming they took out 80% of India's Electric, hah.

Pakistan is on an IMF budget. I think DHGate and Alibaba will cut off Pakistan from buying more JF-17s due to bad credit.
204   Misc   2025 May 10, 1:44am  

AmericanKulak says

Chinese drones are getting shot down left and right by India.

Pakiwood TV claiming they took out 80% of India's Electric, hah.

Pakistan is on an IMF budget. I think DHGate and Alibaba will cut off Pakistan from buying more JF-17s due to bad credit.


Why ???? Did Ukraine's crap credit stop it from getting F16s ???
205   WookieMan   2025 May 10, 5:39am  

Patrick says

there are millions of poor whites.

More poor than any race in the country. White superiority though.... I don't know the per capita numbers, but gross there's more poor whites than any race in this country. But hey, they're privileged.
206   Patrick   2025 May 10, 10:02pm  

Patrick says

Good point. Pakistan makes a single bridge country from China to the Arabian Sea:


https://www.globalconstructionreview.com/chinas-railway-to-the-arabian-sea-would-be-worth-the-58bn-study-finds/


A 3,000km railway from China’s Xinjiang autonomous region to the Pakistani port of Gwadar on the Arabian Sea would cost $58bn, but a feasibility study says it would be worth it, the South China Morning Post reports. ...

Building it would entail risks, as it would cross mountainous terrain and politically volatile regions.

Chinese workers in Pakistan have been the targets of several terrorist attacks in recent years (see further reading).

The study noted that the line would connect with Iranian and Turkish networks to provide shortcuts to Europe for Chinese goods, and that Pakistan’s economy would benefit from state-of-the-art infrastructure and easier trade with China.

But it noted that China would have to bear the lion’s share of the cost, since it represented around 16% of Pakistan’s GDP.
207   AmericanKulak   2025 May 11, 1:06am  

" India is doing genocide. Everybody except my people who are doing the worst of the Genocide. " - Hasan Piker

BTW, the "Civilian Targets" are 1 foot thick concrete bunker-mosques of Lashkar-e-Taliba, on the UN terrorist list. Pakistan simply doesn't know the 1000s of individuals at these bunker-mosques are in the country. And is "shocked" these monstruous complexes are near the Pak-Indian border.
Just like they didn't know Osama bin Laden was a few blocks from their National Military Academy.
208   Fortwaye   2025 May 11, 7:32am  

America will protect India. We been shmoozing Modi. Apple moving there. Tech is all there that we moved. We are India first, not America first. Tim Cook is a fag (both types).
209   KgK one   2025 May 11, 3:43pm  

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJdSAFpTpU0/?igsh=eXZmdmI2eWZucXlq

Pakistan is location of terrorist training. After bin ladin was found there , us should be careful. Terrorist leader's funeral is attended by pakistan army, obviously they all work n train together. Us needs to eliminate pak before they ship nuke in west then it's over for west.




210   MolotovCocktail   2025 May 11, 3:56pm  

Fortwaye says

America will protect India


How? We can't even protect shipping in the Red Sea.
211   Fortwaye   2025 May 11, 4:00pm  

MolotovCocktail says

Fortwaye says


America will protect India


How? We can't even protect shipping in the Red Sea.


when corporate overlords start screaming “mah cheap labor”, government goes out of the way for them.
212   MolotovCocktail   2025 May 11, 4:08pm  

Fortwaye says

when corporate overlords start screaming “mah cheap labor”, government goes out of the way for them.


That's not 'how'. Only 'why'.
213   stereotomy   2025 May 11, 6:01pm  

When so much hate is concentrated in so few countries, sometimes the best solution is to let all the haters kill one another until there is no one left to hate, just mourn.
214   KgK one   2025 May 11, 8:16pm  

Islam has hate for all non muslims. West fueled the islam and hate in that area. India has been only country besides Spain to survive 1300 yrs of invasion n conversions. If india falls to Islam, west will also be done after. Hate is only on pakistan side. They keep doing 9/11 style attacks in india. India has migrants and asylum seekers due to Islam. Parsis/ zorastrians/ buddhists/ sindhis/sikhs/ hindus/ jains/few jews.... all escaped n took asylum in current india.
215   AmericanKulak   2025 May 11, 9:13pm  

Misc says

Why ???? Did Ukraine's crap credit stop it from getting F16s ???

China wants to get paid at least the cost of making their cheapest export model.
216   stereotomy   2025 May 11, 9:21pm  

As a descendent of the Irish people, I have been told what it's like to live as a slave in your own country for 500 years of foreign domination. As bad as it was for Ireland, it was far worse for India which endured over a millenium of rape and plunder by the musselmen. All the stories about the vast wealth of the Sultans was obtained by plundering the gold of the Hindu temples and enslaving millions of Indians to sell to the slave markets.

This really fucked up the Indian psyche. I don't know if I can understand what it means to suffer 1000 years of degradation and torture.That tempers my impatience with the anger the Indian PatNetters spew.

The 5 stages of grief . . .
217   Eric Holder   2025 May 12, 2:07pm  

Misc says

Did Ukraine's crap credit stop it from getting F16s ???


Ukraine has better allies, apparently.
218   Eric Holder   2025 May 12, 2:17pm  

stereotomy says

As a descendent of the Irish people, I have been told what it's like to live as a slave in your own country for 500 years of foreign domination.


"If they were under foreign domination for 500 years it means they belong under foreign domination and must surrender to a foreign government hell-bent on dominating them all laws and treaties be damned". 🤡
220   indc   2025 May 13, 10:37am  

India fought against 3 countries systems deployed in Pakistan.

USA- Fighter planes and defense
China- Fighter planes and defense
Turkey - Drones.

All of them were proven useless against the Indian defense and offense.

In 3 days pakistan started begging for mercy. Chinese MIC stocks started falling down. And America had to beg India not to pulverize pakistan as there could be nuclear leak.
221   MolotovCocktail   2025 May 13, 4:35pm  

indc says

India fought against 3 countries systems deployed in Pakistan.

USA- Fighter planes and defense
China- Fighter planes and defense
Turkey - Drones.

All of them were proven useless against the Indian defense and offense.

In 3 days pakistan started begging for mercy. Chinese MIC stocks started falling down. And America had to beg India not to pulverize pakistan as there could be nuclear leak.


Sure buddy. Sure.
222   zzyzzx   2025 May 14, 7:50am  

indc says

India fought against 3 countries systems deployed in Pakistan.

USA- Fighter planes and defense
China- Fighter planes and defense
Turkey - Drones.

All of them were proven useless against the Indian defense and offense.

In 3 days pakistan started begging for mercy. Chinese MIC stocks started falling down. And America had to beg India not to pulverize pakistan as there could be nuclear leak.


Even the best equipment is going to be useless if it's staffed by morons.
223   MolotovCocktail   2025 May 14, 8:31am  

Indian version of Titanic:

224   KgK one   2025 May 25, 10:17am  




It was place to be, EU was shithole till 1600, n US didn't exist. Till British removed 45 trillion wealth n death industrialized, n starved 100 million to death.

225   RWSGFY   2025 May 25, 10:42am  

MolotovCocktail says

Indian version of Titanic:




Shitanic.
226   Patrick   2025 May 25, 1:08pm  

KgK one says

It was place to be, EU was shithole till 1600, n US didn't exist. Till British removed 45 trillion wealth n death industrialized, n starved 100 million to death.


Ireland was more culturally advanced than England from about 800AD to 1200AD. Irish monks could read Latin and the ancient books were well known, while the English did not have much of that knowledge until the Irish and some missionaries from Rome brought it back to England. The English ultimately won and dominated Ireland because they developed more advanced commerce and warfare, and then invaded. The Irish upper classes fled to Spain, France, Austria, and Russia, and so only the peasants were left in Ireland for a very long time, forced to be tenant farmers, paying the English to live on their own ancestral land.

I think India had a similar experience with the English, but 45 trillion dollars of wealth was not moved from India to Britain. Most "wealth" is not gold or any other commodity, but is instead fundamentally a well-ordered society with many thriving businesses producing what people need. This can happen only if the government fairly enforces laws. Gold is just a way for people to trade with each other and with other countries. The British destroyed the society in India rather like they did in Ireland, but what did they physically take from India? Gold as taxes, textiles, tea, opium. That was the lesser harm. The real harm was the destruction of the old well-ordered Indian society. Now government corruption and ethnic factionalism prevents India from developing rapidly.
227   HeadSet   2025 May 25, 2:55pm  

Patrick says

The real harm was the destruction of the old well-ordered Indian society.

If India had a well-ordered society, the British would not have been able to conquer it.
228   Patrick   2025 May 25, 3:00pm  

Maybe they had the same problem that the Irish did. Not unified enough, or good enough with commerce and weapons.
229   HeadSet   2025 May 25, 3:17pm  

Patrick says

Not unified enough

That is an understatement. Walk ten miles and the folks speak a different language.
231   KgK one   2025 May 26, 1:40pm  

HeadSet says

India

It was highly ordered. However india has been battling Islam on west since 700. In 1300 to 1500 Islam took over north india, they destroys millions of temples, infra, universities, killed of lot of people 100 million estimate. 1600 to 1750 they were able to control Islam. Then British who originally came for trade, east india company turned into business empire. Even indians used to give $ to british as loan to fight. They didn't repay, instead took over the country. Yes there is always infighting, india had 550 kingdoms when British left.

232   Patrick   2025 May 26, 2:31pm  

Thanks, I didn't know about Indian loans to the British.

I think that Muslims were successful at invading India at first for a lot of reasons:

- Muslims were more unified
- Muslims had better weapons, such as cannons
- Muslims ate meat, which made them stronger
- low-caste Indians had a motive to convert to Islam, which promised to treat them as equals

I've read that one reason Islam spread in the Middle East was that they promised a relatively low 2.5% tax on assets, while the local governments had much higher taxes, and poor people didn't have any assets to tax anyway. So a lot of people supported the Muslims as a way to get lower taxes.

Looks like the Marathas exploited the corruption and division among the Muslims to ultimately take power from them starting in 1600 or so like you say. I don't really know the history though.
233   Blue   2025 May 26, 6:02pm  

Brits are smart. They still promote not only their current but past actors just in case slaves forgot their old narrative.
A while ago they shot a movie on one of the worst pedophile jihadist Mohammad Akmal Gandhi. Under their heavily promoted name Mahatma Gandhi.
LOL In his entire life he says, never fight with enemy but ask them to beat you!!!
He asked Indian military join Brits and fight in WW2.
After military came back and chased Brits out of the country within few months on a separate note.
But Brits say, they left because of Akmal who barely walks in adult diapers!
Now the current actors trying to promote him as “father” of the country ;)
Most of the history is just fake and propaganda.

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