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PanicanDemoralizer says

One stat I heard today: There are as many 70+ homebuyers in the market as under 35 buyers.

So Boomers are flipping houses to other Boomers.

MolotovCocktail says

So Boomers are flipping houses to other Boomers.

But they have to find a Boomer who can afford 10% down on a $450k house first.

It's really wild out there in seller delulu land. Aside from a few places outside Northern Urban Areas, only 10% of households can Afford a $450k house with 10% down AND don't already own a house. This is about 30 of the 50 states.

Despite substantial declines from the peak, buyers are staying home in droves, for the very good reason that non-homeowner buyers still can't afford to buy, and are confident prices will resume declining. The declining rental rates reinforce that belief. From Tennessee to Texas to Florida, rents continue to decline quarter after quarter with plenty of vacancy.

It may be that rental declines are what breaks the Sticky Upward Stubborn Price Holdouts

PanicanDemoralizer says

But they have to find a Boomer who can afford 10% down on a $450k house first

They buy in cash, mostly. Not all Boomers are rich but enough are to do this shit. Won't be the case when they have to burn it all on $6k/month nursing homes or when they die off.

That's why all this bullshit of "this is not a crash!" pronounced constantly by the Housing Experts of PatNet is utter bullshit.

Crashes don't have to to happen 'fast'.

When will housing prices drop? In some U.S. cities, the decreases have already started.

Data from Realtor.com shows that existing home sales are slowing down. The typical home for sale spent 58 days on the market in July 2025 — five more days than in June and a full week longer than one year ago.

If you’re a hopeful home buyer, you might be wondering: If the housing market is cooling, does that mean home prices are dropping?

The answer depends on various factors, particularly on where you’re shopping for a home. Here’s what you need to know about housing prices as we head into the fall season.

Are house prices going down?

By many markers, home prices are, indeed, going down. The Federal Housing Finance Agency’s House Price Index shows a 0.2% decline in home prices between April and May (the latest data available), and Realtor.com’s July report shows price declines in 33 of the nation’s biggest 50 metros. Another eight cities saw home price growth, but at a slower clip than in the month previous.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the median home price in Q2 2025 was $410,800 — down from $423,100 at the beginning of the year. Housing inventory is also improving, which bodes well for home prices in the coming months. (More houses on the market means less competition, which typically means sellers need to lower prices to win buyers.)

Realtor.com’s data shows that the total active inventory of homes for sale jumped nearly 25% between July 2024 and July 2025, and over 20% of listings saw a price cut last month.

Still, inventory is lower than before the pandemic, and it’s unlikely we’ll see a huge jump in listings until mortgage rates fall. Many current homeowners are reluctant to give up the 3% mortgage rates they secured early on in the pandemic — especially with 30-year mortgage interest rates hovering in the upper-6% range for all of this year.

Mortgage rates could decrease soon, though. The Federal Reserve is poised to cut rates at least once this year, and Fannie Mae predicts a 6.4% average interest rate by the end of 2026. While it’s not a huge dip from today’s levels, it could inspire more homeowners to list their homes and buy into other properties.

Most forecasts call for home price growth to slow steadily over the next year. Fannie Mae’s Home Price Index, which measures year-over-year price growth, projects a fall from 3.8% this quarter to just 1.1% by the end of 2026. The Mortgage Bankers Association predicts the FHFA index to dip from the 2.8% annual increase seen in the last report to a mere 0.3% by the end of next year. This could mean a boost in affordability for buyers across the nation.

Dig deeper: Which is more important, a low interest rate or house price?

Where home prices have fallen

But if you want or need to buy a home before those declines come to fruition, choosing your market carefully can be a great way to snag a good deal.

For example, in Austin, Texas, housing prices have fallen almost 5% in the last year, and the typical home is sitting on the market for 65.5 days. Nearly a third of listings are seeing price cuts.

Here’s a look at some other markets where home prices have fallen:

Since July 2022, when the national market peaked, home prices in 19 of the 50 largest cities have decreased. Most notably, Miami has seen a nearly-18% dip in that three-year period. Austin prices dropped 14.8%, while nearby San Antonio prices fell 10.6%. San Francisco, Dallas, Orlando, Denver, and Raleigh all saw significant drops too.

Prices aren’t dropping everywhere, though — the fact that housing costs are down in 19 of the 50 largest metro areas means that prices are stagnant or increasing in 31 of the largest cities. For example, Detroit’s prices have held steady since July 2022, and housing prices have increased by over 20% in Milwaukee, Wis., Providence, R.I., and Cleveland.

Dig deeper: Why are home prices so high?

Strategies for eager buyers

Waiting on more inventory or lower mortgage rates isn’t the only way tos to buy a home affordably.

Here are a few strategies to consider if you see homeownership in your not-so-distant future.

Buy with an eye on refinancing. You could get into the market today with a home in your price range and look to refinance down the line. While you might get less house for your budget, you can start building equity. When rates come down, you can refinance your mortgage to a lower rate or even a different type of mortgage loan altogether.
Start small. While it might not be your dream home, you could find housing happiness in today’s market by purchasing a condo or buying a lot and putting a tiny house on it. Both home types can cost considerably less than a single-family home and help you build equity that translates to cash when you’re ready to upsize.
Go modular. No, these aren’t mobile homes. Modular homes are those that look just like a single-family home when constructed. The only difference is that they’re built in modules off-site and assembled when they get to your lot. They can also cost 10% to 20% less than a traditionally built home.

When will housing prices drop? FAQs

Will 2026 be a better time to buy a house?

It may be good to buy a house in 2026 because, according to industry forecasts from Fannie Mae and the Mortgage Bankers Association, interest rates will probably gradually decrease by then. Home price growth is expected to slow too.

Will U.S. housing prices ever drop?

Typically, house prices will fall when supply exceeds demand, and sellers need to lower prices to entice buyers. As of July 2025, home supply was increasing, but not to the point where the number of homes for sale had caught up to pre-pandemic numbers.

Is it smart to buy a house right now?

If your finances are in order and it’s the right stage of your life, it could be a smart time to buy a house. Interest rates have stubbornly remained elevated, but they aren’t at sky-high levels. Home price growth has also slowed down, with many markets even seeing price declines in recent months.

https://finance.yahoo.com/personal-finance/mortgages/article/when-will-housing-prices-drop-in-some-us-cities-the-decreases-have-already-started-161956976.html

So #1, cities are getting hit and specifically the inland hipster ones. #2 most all are coastal besides the hipsters which I've been saying for months. Austin is hipster and within coastal range in a days drive, Miami, Los Angeles, Sacramento, Nashville (borderline weekend coastal trip). Minneapolis is a Somali shit hole, so that's no surprise, white flight.

Also under 5% is totally catastrophic....🙄 I lose that much in a day on stocks or 401k. Holy shit my life is ruined.... lol said no one. All these places have equity so a loss is not that big of a deal based on LIST price. They're likely still up.

Also the problem with data is Realtor.com doesn't have all the data. It's not owned by the association of Realtors just because they use the name. It's licensed to another company. You can check a box in your MLS system to not share the data. Realtor.com and sites like Zillow wouldn't get the data. IDX. We it did all the time on trial ballon listings so it wouldn't show as listed before. And buyer brokers are too lazy to look up the history.

As with any industry there's way more shit going on the general public doesn't know about. 15 years of my adult career was in that cesspool. The general public doesn't know the game.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Mortgage rates could decrease soon, though. The Federal Reserve is poised to cut rates at least once this year, and Fannie Mae predicts a 6.4% average interest rate by the end of 2026. While it’s not a huge dip from today’s levels, it could inspire more homeowners to list their homes and buy into other properties.

Hopium like the kind Housing Experts of PatNet preach.

WookieMan says

So #1, cities are getting hit and specifically the inland hipster ones. #2 most all are coastal besides the hipsters which I've been saying for months. Austin is hipster and within coastal range in a days drive, Miami, Los Angeles, Sacramento, Nashville (borderline weekend coastal trip). Minneapolis is a Somali shit hole, so that's no surprise, white flight.

So, you are covering your coastal cities bullshit by adding a 'hipster' condition?

Cm'on, man! You are a bonafied Housing Expert of PatNet! Don't embarrass yourself with such pathetic gaslighting. Its so...so..Realtor®ish!

MolotovCocktail says

Cm'on, man! You are a bonafied Housing Expert of PatNet! Don't embarrass yourself with such pathetic gaslighting. Its so...so..Realtor™ish!

I know it more than you do. Not sure your point. Unless you're 60 with 40 years of experience stop talking real estate.

WookieMan says

MolotovCocktail says

Cm'on, man! You are a bonafied Housing Expert of PatNet! Don't embarrass yourself with such pathetic gaslighting. Its so...so..Realtor™ish!

I know it more than you do. Not sure your point. Unless you're 60 with 40 years of experience stop talking real estate.

Hipster experience? Cut the crap. You don't know shit. You make it all up.

MolotovCocktail says

Hipster experience? Cut the crap. You don't know shit. You make it all up.

Name any place you've been. Just the US and small, mid and major cities. Any of them. I don't make anything up, you don't know anything is the problem.

WookieMan says

MolotovCocktail says

Hipster experience? Cut the crap. You don't know shit. You make it all up.

Name any place you've been. Just the US and small, mid and major cities. Any of them. I don't make anything up, you don't know anything is the problem.

Why? What does that have to do with you creating a totally bogus categorization to cover up your wrong BS?

MolotovCocktail says

WookieMan says
MolotovCocktail says

Hipster experience? Cut the crap. You don't know shit. You make it all up.

Name any place you've been. Just the US and small, mid and major cities. Any of them. I don't make anything up, you don't know anything is the problem.

Why? What does that have to do with you creating a totally bogus categorization to cover up your wrong BS?

Because you don't do anything and claim to know real estate. You don't. This isn't 2007. I made a living in it through that time, did you? Have you even traveled to most cities? Name them. You keep dodging my questions. That's an extremely insecure trait.

Have you been to Austin? Nashville? NYC? Minneapolis? Louisville? Miami? Chicago? Milwaukee? Cleveland? St. Louis? Denver? Seattle? Portland? Boise? SLC? Phoenix? Houston? NOLA? Tampa? Jacksonville? Boston? Spokane? Las Vegas? Dallas? Indy? Detroit? Philly? Buffalo? My list can go on and on and that's just the cities in the lower 48 and I've been to more than I can remember.

Start throwing in countries. Please, I know you're in your enclave and do nothing besides bitch at other people. Enjoy that life. Has to suck.

Show me data where illegals or anchor babies are buying houses? Second homes and the rental markets have turned into a huge investment sectors when you have huge corporations building rental sub divisions built only to rent we know the market has been gamed. Keep the price out of reach and force them to rent.

When people who can only rent leave the market and rental demand goes down, how long can the landlords hold the unproductive properties?

ForcedTQ says

When people who can only rent leave the market and rental demand goes down, how long can the landlords hold the unproductive properties?

What happened after Covid, was that millions of Mom and Pop landlords sold out because during Covid the government imposed eviction moratoriums. Mom and Pop relied on the rental income. The large corporations they sold out to run a certain percentage of vacancies to keep the rental prices high. They can maximize revenue by having vacancies. You should see the vacancy rates for office buildings, and those rents haven't dropped. So yeah, they can hold on for an extended period of time.

WookieMan says

Because you don't do anything and claim to know real estate. You don't. This isn't 2007. I made a living in it through that time, did you? Have you even traveled to most cities? Name them. You keep dodging my questions. That's an extremely insecure trait.

I don't do anything now? If I don't do anything, then your bogus accusations of what you imagine I do or not don't hold any water, either.

Dodging shit you make up entirely in your own mind? I think you imagine that too.

Your claims about what you know are now proven to be shit, dude. Doesn't have anything to do with me.

ForcedTQ says

When people who can only rent leave the market and rental demand goes down, how long can the landlords hold the unproductive properties?

Apparently, if they 'hipsters' in coastal cities, they can't. If they live in Dunfuq, IL, they can.

beershrine says

Show me data where illegals or anchor babies are buying houses?

Illegals aren't buying houses, but they are renting them. 12 or whatever living in one house, and parking on the street.

Booger says

beershrine says

Show me data where illegals or anchor babies are buying houses?

Illegals aren't buying houses, but they are renting them. 12 or whatever living in one house, and parking on the street.

Yeah they do: https://www.marketplace.org/story/2017/09/11/american-dream-how-undocumented-immigrants-buy-homes-us

And in California, the State helps them do it.

Booger says

beershrine says

Show me data where illegals or anchor babies are buying houses?

Illegals aren't buying houses, but they are renting them. 12 or whatever living in one house, and parking on the street.

They'll be deemed too big to fail.

MolotovCocktail says

Yeah they do: https://www.marketplace.org/story/2017/09/11/american-dream-how-undocumented-immigrants-buy-homes-us

And in California, the State helps them do it.

This house is 1/3rd of the price in most of the country. https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/7218-Sonoma-Ave_Rancho-Cucamonga_CA_91701_M15531-09654

I didn't even pick a pinkies up CA community. Prices drop 10% in Rancho and stay the same or even go up in dumb fuck IL or whatever you call it, the national median still goes down. The average goes down. For the life of me I still don't understand how someone cannot comprehend basic math. My prices can rise while others drop. Yet the median will still drop. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT OF COASTAL AREAS AND CITIES FOR FUCKS SAKE.

It means the housing was priced too high in your area or you can't afford it. I know the answer to that though...

WookieMan says

I didn't even pick a pinkies up CA community. Prices drop 10% in Rancho and stay the same or even go up in dumb fuck IL or whatever you call it, the national median still goes down. The average goes down. For the life of me I still don't understand how someone cannot comprehend basic math. My prices can rise while others drop. Yet the median will still drop. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT OF COASTAL AREAS AND CITIES FOR FUCKS SAKE.

When did I ever speak of the national median?

(Not in your fucking imagination, either)

Well?

MolotovCocktail says

So Boomers are flipping houses to other Boomers.

Downsizing, which means the old house comes on the market.

GNL says

1) What's the median net worth in DC?

@GNL

ChatGPT say:

For Washington, D.C.he median household net worth (including home equity) is reported to be $68,865

Patrick says

For Washington, D.C.he median household net worth (including home equity) is reported to be $68,865

43% of the population of DC is Black. -- That's a lot of poor

The big money like Blackrock's various LLCs have been quietly selling off their SFH investments for several quarters now, 3-5% each quarter. Overall big money homebuying is exaggerated anyway, it was always low single digit percentage points.

The not-so-big players as well as quietly selling off holdings as property tax and insurance and other holding costs have skyrocketed across the country.

AirBNB hasn't been doing so great either.

MolotovCocktail says

When did I ever speak of the national median?

(Not in your fucking imagination, either)

Well?

You've said multiple times that housing is going down. You don't specify the area. It's going up in many places still. It's not doom and gloom all over the country. You still don't get this point. That's why I think you rent and can't afford to buy and are upset about it.

Take the crocodile tears elsewhere dude. You've given no experience in real estate. You can't say the cities you've visited and physically saw the housing stock. At this point I don't understand why you keep on commenting on real estate. Hell make it up. You can't do that even. You just attack others knowledge and or point of view when they present facts which you never have.

I know AD's area to an extent and the panhandle, further West to the AL state line. I don't need to verify anything. He gives an honest description of the market down there. With links and numbers. I also have in person seen it with my own eyes.... You haven't.

I don't understand people that want a crash. Guess what? Your income crashes and you still can't afford to buy. So throw a hissy fit.

Build update photos coming later today. I back up my talk and am not a shit talker.

In my area prices are stubbornly high, but they seem to have peaked. Houses are on the market longer. We had yet another wave of city people move to the suburbs now that working from home or hybrid is a thing. I've also seen more properties be converted to rentals,.rather than owner occupied, which deplets inventory.

Being near a major metro, prices will deflate slowly and not simply drop off a cliff. The one thing that's different this time, relative to 2004 to 2008 is the lack of forclouses/ distressed properties. People may be stretched thin, but unless the job market or wages contract most can stay afloat. Anyone who bought pre 2020 is locked in at a good rate and absent a major change in financial situation should be able to ride it out and not have to sell.

As for the boomer generation, their houses are either going to 1) the kids or grandkids 2) the healthcare system / nursing home or 3) the bank. Hard to believe but some boomers still don't own their homes outright.

In the area I grew up the neighborhood is mostly immigrants; 60 years ago it was predominantly Jewish; 30 years ago it was white middle class; now it's a wide range of ethnicites. Most cashed out one or two cycles ago, hence the demographic turnover.

I get back there periodically and people are maintaining their homes, area is still safe and hosing values have generally held with the wider local market. And I grew up in a suburb of a major East Coast City.

Booger says

beershrine says

Show me data where illegals or anchor babies are buying houses?

Illegals aren't buying houses, but they are renting them. 12 or whatever living in one house, and parking on the street.

The most productive of them are still here, but now only living 6 to 8 in a house. More breathing room for everyone and less stress on shared neighborhood resources.

GreaterNYCDude says

Being near a major metro, prices will deflate slowly and not simply drop off a cliff. The one thing that's different this time, relative to 2004 to 2008 is the lack of forclouses/ distressed properties. People may be stretched thin, but unless the job market or wages contract most can stay afloat. Anyone who bought pre 2020 is locked in at a good rate and absent a major change in financial situation should be able to ride it out and not have to sell.

This is spot on. Cities and costal areas will drop, but it's not a diddy freak out moment. Maybe 5% correction and 10% worst case. Even then they likely have equity as well as low rates. We're going to go sideways for potentially a long time 5 or even 10 years. There's nothing in the math that says otherwise.

I get people want cheaper houses, but those days are done. The housing crash was a once in a lifetime event and people keep thinking it's going to happen again and buy a cheap house when they don't all a sudden have a job. The loans at that time were absolute trash and now not legal or impossible to obtain without huge cash backing it.

Move to a place that is affordable is really all there is to it. You can make the same money anywhere. If you can't, you're not thinking. And in certain places you'll have to deal with winter. The horror. Guess what, those that don't want to deal with cold weather increase wages with more demand for talent because others avoid the location. Basic supply and demand of employees. You could actually make more in Montgomery, AL if you have skills that are in need versus say NY, IL, CA where there are people all over the place with the same skills. Drags incomes down. H1-B's as well. An Indian is not moving to Alabama. They're going to CA where their low wage is like hitting the jackpot.

Agreed no sign of a crash, but price reductions for many from the insane highs of anywhere between 5%-40%, depending on how overpriced the shack was listed to begin with. Difference to 2008 is that they will get bought once reasonably priced without the government needed to step in. On average I expext low single digits of appreciation for the next year or two, below general inflation.

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

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Websites with TDS. Have to make up "bad news" for everything Trump does (or even for what Trump proposes when trolling). A few illegal aliens are sent home and it's the end of the US economy. Tariffs are the end of the US economy. Department of Education is cancelled and now schools are turning out retards. (Ha! It can't get worse than it already was.) This has been going on for a decade starting with the Russian Collusion Delusion.

When are any of these dire predictions going to happen? Even with 1/2 the lifetime government "workers" purposely trying to make his policies fail, things seem headed for catastrophe more slowly than they were with Biden as puppet.

Here's a few things that can cheer you up:
• Only a small number of illegal aliens are needed to pick the crops. They are still here. That pint of strawberries has 20¢ of illegal alien labor cost, so maybe the price will rise from $5 to $5.20 if the labor cost doubles.
• Bidenflation™ already caused huge inflation — and that was when he was flooding the nation supposedly driving labor prices down. So we're supposed to believe prices go up when flooding the nation and prices go up more when a few of those people go home?
• Crop picking can be automated more. In fact, many things are experiencing increased automation including, even, Waymo automating driving services.
• Farmers can switch to crops requiring less human labor if there's somehow a problem. You'll get more peaches and few strawberries.
• Maybe now US citizens can get jobs in construction and food service and the taxpayers won't have to subsidize them, since they'll be earning a living. I'd rather pay more for that than having to subsidize all the jobless citizens.

Repeal at least 95% of all agricultural regulations that has been imposed going back to at least H.W. Bush. Open up farmlands Obama locked away as protected federal land. Sell it back to small famers, who would then be allowed to grow what ever in the fuck they want, and have as many retention ponds for livestock as they deem necessary.
This whole notion that only illegal aliens picks crops is pure grade A commie propaganda Bullshit!
Our agriculture has been ripped away from the family farmer, and placed in the hands of a few monopolies, even the seeds are gamed. Get rid of the GMO shit as well. And allow small farmers to sue Cargill and Monsanto in bankruptcy if the crops from their seeds mutate and destroy heirloom crops.
White people have been farming since this country started, if White people didn't, couldn't or wouldn't Farm there wouldn't be any Country radio stations in America.
It kills me when isolated city folks living in a snow globe on top of a Starbucks opine about the only people suited to pick crops.

The problem is the monopoly is so rigged and one sided, the greedy fucks wont pay a living wage to anyone, only illegal aliens living 10 adults in a 1br apartment can take that job.

Open back up our agriculture and lets see if people will still buy those tasteless under ripe tomatoes and other Frankenshit produce in the grocery stores.
you have to go to Boutique grocer to get any decent produce, and that's a travesty. It's not because it cost more to grow produce(I know some idiots likes to call it organic) but it's just the same fucking vegetables humans has been eating for tens of thousands of years. Wholefoods didn't put some shit on it, to make it organic. It doesn't cost more to grow. The con job was created so there could be a market for Frankenshit that is available otherwise.

End the industrial agriculture or at least stop protecting them by preventing small farmers from producing better superior alternatives.
Definitely stop the "Organic" label, it's just commie speak to rig the big players.

It won’t ever be that way again. Greed is the driver of society.

There will be communism.

I don't know about in your areas, but for the past month every Friday on just about every street, a whole apartment worth of furniture is out on the curb.
Seems without illegal aliens, being subsidized with supplemental income and social services. The rent seekers can't keep tenants at the prices their mortgages and investment demands.

Even cars for the first time in at least 15 years I am seeing cars and trucks on Craigslist selling for 3 grand and under. 2 or 3 years ago I picked up a 2001 Ford van, that looks like hell and drives and ride just as bad. I paid 3K for it, and it was 2K cheaper than the next cheapest van, that looked almost just as bad.
I'm seeing cars trucks and vans for very reasonable prices. I saw a 2005 Tacoma for 5K on CL, something like that has been selling for 12K for years.
All of the crop pickers are getting deported so they are having to sell their "Plumbing", "Carpenter", "Roofing", and "Construction" trucks and vans. CHEAP!

Since when do farmers have Milwaukee Packouts full of tools?

WookieMan says

You've said multiple times that housing is going down. You don't specify the area. It's going up in many places still. It's not doom and gloom all over the country. You still don't get this point. That's why I think you rent and can't afford to buy and are upset about it.

So? You just imagine shit up and declare it as fact, then.

Again.

WookieMan says

I don't understand people that want a crash.

Because you engage in magical thinking

1WookieMan says

You've given no experience in real estate. You can't say the cities you've visited and physically saw the housing stock. At this point I don't understand why you keep on commenting on real estate.

To call out the bullshit posted by ppl like you, for one thing.

That is the real reason you are pissed at me.

I find all the 'plot holes' in your crap. Rather easy to do. The rest you do for me by yourself. Esp the magical thinking.

socal2 does the same thing.

End property taxes on primary residence single family homes, and raise the state taxes on income SFH.
Also put a federal property tax on rental units. Build 10 new cities in America.
This too will pass. We've seen lots of nonsense that was supposed to be the new normal come and go over the past decade or so.
RE is still rigged to suit just a few greedy bastards, they will have their day. Louder than Liberal tears.

Misc says

43% of the population of DC is Black. -- That's a lot of poor

Only about 20% of the Blacks in DC are poor.

MolotovCocktail says

That is the real reason you are pissed at me.

Lol. This is your best??? I just respond here, you don't take up 1/1,000th of my head space.

MolotovCocktail says

I find all the 'plot holes' in your crap. Rather easy to do. The rest you do for me by yourself. Esp the magical thinking.

List plot holes. Fact is you don't know real estate. That's okay. A lot of people came here when it was a real estate site and then thought they were self educated. They didn't work in real estate and don't know shit. Even those that don't know what they talking about at least provide data as much as they can. You don't.

You've never given links or a semi educated opinion about real estate. Just everyone is wrong. Great commentary. Been going on for years. How is it working out for you? Not so good by the data.... oh wait, you have none. lol.

WookieMan says

List plot holes

I referred to the national median?

Dozens more. But why bother? We all know how you react when called out on your BS.

WookieMan says

Fact is you don't know real estate.

All the so called Housing Experts of PatNet would say that also when I pressed them on their bullshit. Deflection.

WookieMan says

You don't.

Yes I have. All the while you imaging shit up in your head and presenting it as 'fact'.

WookieMan says

You've never given links or a semi educated opinion about real estate.

Wrong again. More magical thinking reaction to assuage your cognitive dissonance.

WookieMan says

Just everyone is wrong.

You mean 'you' are wrong. You have demonstrated that you don't give a damn about others.

WookieMan says

How is it working out for you

Pretty good. Being proven right does that.