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WookieMan says

Problem with that is it would take millions to deport them, not money but people.

Hire them to do it.

Seriously, give citizenship and pay to the ones who volunteer and are most productive at deporting all the others, long as they have no other criminal record and are not in the cartels.

This would also turn them against each other, always a good thing when fighting criminals.

It'll get easier once DOGE gets a handle on the IRS and SS data bases. Then they can cut the coin going to these illegal MFs, Then start denying the fuckton of Section-8 giveaways.

They'll start self-deporting.

Patrick says

WookieMan says

Problem with that is it would take millions to deport them, not money but people.

Hire them to do it.

Why do you hate American workers? We outsource enough already! A bounty system would work just as well without granting legal status to more illegals.

Misc says

It'll get easier once DOGE gets a handle on the IRS and SS data bases. Then they can cut the coin going to these illegal MFs, Then start denying the fuckton of Section-8 giveaways.

They'll start self-deporting.

No they won't they will just hold out for the next time dems take control. In the mean time we should be jailing people for employing, providing financial services to, or housing illegals. We need to stop anchor baby system.

Part of me thinks the people that want the US destroyed won with that last massive flood of illegals. Our country will become even more divided and tribal.

RC2006 says

Part of me thinks the people that want the US destroyed won with that last massive flood of illegals.

Soros.

A highly fragmented society is much easier for him to control.

zzyzzx says

A bounty system would work just as well without granting legal status to more illegals.

How would that work?

Patrick says

zzyzzx says

A bounty system would work just as well without granting legal status to more illegals.

How would that work?

I'll say the idea is good. Problem is you'll end up with more illegals that are trigger happy and kill you. I wouldn't sign up for that.

If I'm walking through the grocery store and they thinking I'm tracking them and they just kill me? Hell no. That's what would happen. It will be slow, but just let law enforcement handle it.

Patrick says

As if black illegals do not exist.

Good point. There are a lot of black illegals from Haiti.

Patrick says

There are a lot of black illegals from Haiti.

Not for long.

https://nypost.com/2025/04/03/us-news/illegal-migrant-with-lengthy-rap-sheet-gets-deported-from-us-for-the-40th-time/

An illegal migrant with a lengthy rap sheet was deported from the US for the 40th time during a recent Trump administration immigration raid in Texas.

Mexican national Julian Estrada-Garcia, 36, got booted from the country by Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers along with another 173 illegal migrants in a two-week operation last month in Houston.

The frequent border-crosser was once again kicked back to Mexico from the Lone Star State.

While in the US, Estrada-Garcia committed several crimes, including driving while intoxicated, possession of illicit drugs and fraud, according to ICE.

A some point they should just shoot him.

If thr border is finally sealed he won't be back.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/california-1st-state-offer-health-insurance-undocumented-immigrants/story?id=105986377

California becomes first state to offer health insurance to all undocumented immigrants criminal aliens

December 29, 2023, 1:22 PM

Why would they go back when they get such lavish gifts from Newsom for staying?

https://abc7.com/post/soccer-coach-charged-13-year-old-boys-killing-due-los-angeles-court-tuesday/16143789/

Soccer coach accused in teen murder is an undocumented immigrant, DHS says

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- The Department of Homeland Security said a youth soccer coach who was charged with murdering a 13-year old boy whose body was found by the side of a road in Oxnard is an undocumented immigrant.

Mario Edgardo Garcia Aquino, 43, appeared Tuesday in a downtown Los Angeles courtroom in connection with the killing of Oscar Omar Hernandez. No plea was made and arraignment was continued to April 30. He is being held without bail.

Patrick says

Mario Edgardo Garcia Aquino, 43, appeared Tuesday in a downtown Los Angeles courtroom in connection with the killing of Oscar Omar Hernandez. No plea was made and arraignment was continued to April 30. He is being held without bail.

WTF? Close to my age. I swear and sound like an ass on this site at times, but I'd never harm a damn person unless they messed with my kids or wife. A kid? Hell no. If guilty just shoot him in the head on site. Like give the judge a gun or one of the jurors and just shoot his ass dead after the verdict.

Wait, in my kids team (different sport, not soccer)
you need to go through fucking background check to volunteer as a marshall and these clowns had fucking illegal as a COACH? WTF indeed.

RWSGFY says

Wait, in my kids team (different sport, not soccer)
you need to go through fucking background check to volunteer as a marshall and these clowns had fucking illegal as a COACH? WTF indeed.

Why kill a 13 year old though at 43?? They're a lot of kids and adults I don't like, kind of a lot, but I'm not killing them EVER. Hell I have't been in a physical fight since grade school. Killing someone is a massive leap and it's a kid.

Prison will not go well for this guy is all. Prison justice will likely be executed and so will he.

Mayorkas and Biden should be on trial for importing these guys by the millions.

Patrick says

Mayorkas and Biden should be on trial for importing these guys by the millions.

Agreed. There are bad apples everywhere, but if you weren't supposed to even be here? Not saying it would be right, but if I was born here and committed a crime I go to jail. An illegal should've never had the chance to even commit the crime on our soil.

Patrick says

Mayorkas and Biden should be on trial for importing these guys by the millions.

Under what charges?

MolotovCocktail says

Patrick says

Mayorkas and Biden should be on trial for importing these guys by the millions.

Under what charges?

Not enforcing the law? Can't give a specific law in all honesty. Citizens have been killed by illegals under their watch. Manslaughter? And yes, I know it happens under all presidencies. But I feel like you're criminally negligent in not making an attempt to stop border crossings. Biden didn't literally at all from day 1.

There's more dead beyond the Laken Riley killing by illegals under Biden. The executive branch has to be held accountable for at least making an attempt to stop illegal crossings. Joe was out to pasture in 2020 and Harris had no clue what she was doing. You could find criminal negligence somewhere in that shit storm of an administration.

MolotovCocktail says

Patrick says

Mayorkas and Biden should be on trial for importing these guys by the millions.

Under what charges?

Human smuggling. There are laws on how to legally enter the US, and flying 320,000 of them in and turning them loose violates those laws. Also, a law saying that all immigrants require a Covid jab, that was violated.

HeadSet says

Also, a law saying that all immigrants require a Covid jab, that was violated.

So? There are plenty of laws that state shit...but have no defined penalty for doing so.

Also, none of that applies to when the government does shit we would go to jail for. Standard boilerplate in the various felony laws.

How about conspiring to violate immigration laws?

My wife, who grew up in south Texas, would tell me stories that her father told her about how the Southern Border Patrol used to work. They'd shoot illegals trying to cross. Later on, the Border Control got in trouble for doing this, and had to stop it.

We all know what happed after that . . .

EDIT: This only stopped sometime during the 1980's.

Dems can flood US with illegals and ignore laws when in charge, then they they can bog shit down in courts for deportation. I'm still waiting for tens of thousands of illegals to be deported each day.

stereotomy says

My wife, who grew up in south Texas, would tell me stories that her father told her about how the Southern Border Patrol used to work. They'd shoot illegals trying to cross. Later on, the Border Control got in trouble for doing this, and had to stop it.

I was in Spain last year, and a Spanish guy told me Spanish border patrol also used to shoot at Moroccans trying to get into Spain as well. `
Seems fair to me, since they are literally invading.

But the matriarchy demands that invaders be mothered and coddled, the poor dears. This is another argument for smashing the matriarchy.

Patrick says

How about conspiring to violate immigration laws?

Non-enforcement isn't conspiracy.

Flying in masses of illegals, handing them cash and phones, and signing them up for disability payments might be.

Patrick says

Flying in masses of illegals, handing them cash and phones, and signing them up for disability payments might be.

Nope. Because it was all matters of government policy.

It is directly breaking the law to bring illegals in.

MolotovCocktail says

Patrick says

Flying in masses of illegals, handing them cash and phones, and signing them up for disability payments might be.

Nope. Because it was all matters of government policy.

Government policy that is unconstitutional and or illegal in this scope can be considered treasonous. Essentially not policy at all, as the constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any law/policy that does not follow it is not considered a law at all. Pat is right here.

MolotovCocktail says

Patrick says

How about conspiring to violate immigration laws?

Non-enforcement isn't conspiracy.

It is dereliction of duty for an office that is supposed to be executing the law/constitution…

Worse than just dereliction. Active undermining of law enforcement for political gain (millions of criminal alien voters).

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/counter-intelligence-friday-april

We had more good judicial news yesterday in the mass deportation wars. The New York Times ran a story headlined, “Pressuring Migrants to ‘Self-Deport,’ White House Moves to Cancel Social Security Numbers.” The sub-headline explained, “By placing migrants in Social Security’s ‘death master file,’ the Trump administration is seeking to cut off their access to credit cards, bank accounts and other financial services.”

In other words, you are dead to us.

White House spokeswoman Elizabeth Huston said the changes at Social Security would help advance the president’s immigration goals. “President Trump promised mass deportations, and by removing the monetary incentive for illegal aliens to come and stay, we will encourage them to self-deport,” she wrote in a statement. “He is delivering on his promise he made to the American people.”

DOGE has repurposed the Social Security “death master file” to function as a blacklist for people who should not be receiving government benefits. On Tuesday, DOGE workers sent the first batch of 6,300 names of migrant criminals and known terrorists who are currently getting US government benefits. Sixty three hundred of them.

The Times saw nothing good about it whatsoever, fretting instead that the campaign could expand and include other types of illegals.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/counter-intelligence-friday-april

Yesterday, the AP ran a story headlined, “Judge allows requirement that everyone in the US illegally must register to move forward.” The story explained, “everyone in the U.S. illegally must register with the federal government and carry documentation, in a move that could have far-reaching repercussions for immigrants across the country.”

The lawsuit started when the Trump Administration began to enforce a long-overlooked law called the Alien Registration Act of 1940. Also called the “Smith Act,” the law requires all non-citizen adult residents —age 14+ and in the US for more than 30 days— to register with the federal government, including providing detailed personal information, fingerprints, and political affiliation. Failure to comply carries criminal penalties and deportation.

The Smith Act has been sitting there, on the dusty books on the bottom shelf, unenforced for ages. It has been extensively challenged, especially by communist groups during the Cold War, and never been found unconstitutional. In Harisiades v. Shaughnessy (1952), for example, the Supreme Court upheld deportation of legal residents who were former Communist Party members, holding that deportations for political affiliation did not violate the First Amendment or due process rights.

One of the plaintiffs, the National Immigration Law Center, said the fact that Trump’s Homeland Security Agency is now enforcing the Act “forces people into an impossible choice.” The article didn’t bother to explain, but I will.

If illegals follow the law and register, then HHS instantly knows where to find them. So obviously, they don’t want to register. But it would still be their best choice. If they defy the law, and do not register, then HHS has another perfectly legal basis for deporting them— for violating the Smith Act.

Either way, the Trump administration has skillfully outmaneuvered immigration activists by leveraging existing laws. There’s nothing “impossible” or “unfair” here. It is just an inconvenient reality for those grown used to unenforced immigration statutes.

It’s classic Trump 2.0: dusting off an overlooked legal tool that was always back in the shed someplace, just waiting to be oiled up and used.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/counter-intelligence-friday-april

NBC ran another immigration story yesterday headlined, “Trump plans to fine migrants $998 a day for failing to leave after deportation order.” The sub-headline added, “The Trump administration plans to apply the penalties retroactively for up to five years, which could result in fines of more than $1 million.” ...

It’s the same story all over again. “The fines,” NBC said, “stem from a 1996 law that was enforced for the first time in 2018, during President Donald Trump’s first term in office.” Another unenforced law! The apothegmatically-named Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) of 1996 imposes civil penalties on noncitizens who willfully fail to comply with final removal orders. It provides a civil penalty of up to $998 per day for violators.

For Portland readers, that comes to around $360,000 per year.

The Trump Administration has also suggested the DOJ will deploy its asset forfeiture division to confiscate property (think bank accounts and real estate) of illegal aliens who defy their deportation dates.

Noticeably absent from the story was any acknowledgment of why these folks haven’t complied with their final deportation orders in the first place. Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement that immigrants in the U.S. illegally should use their CBP One app to “self-deport and leave the country now.”

These Administration moves —enforcing the daily fines of nearly a thousand bucks for ignoring deportation orders, combined with asset seizures, mandatory registration under the long-forgotten Alien Registration Act, and aggressive enforcement of existing immigration statutes— is steadily increasing the pressure on illegal migrants from all angles. If they don’t self-deport, they risk being sent to El Salvador’s brutal Super-Max prison— a Central American fortress known for housing violent gang members under extremely harsh conditions.

But it’s not just sticks. There are also carrots. The Administration has said over and over till it was hoarse that folks who voluntarily self-deport will get a chance to apply for legal residency or citizenship. They just need to exit and then do it the right way.

Patrick says

. In Harisiades v. Shaughnessy (1952), for example, the Supreme Court upheld deportation of legal residents who were former Communist Party members, holding that deportations for political affiliation did not violate the First Amendment or due process rights.

This is important. Especially with MS-13, Fannonite Anti-Western Groups, etc.