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Hawk has been a member since 2011, but comes out of the woodwork when Trump starts doing stuff
I feel motivated to be the contrarian voice when I see people getting a false sense of consensus simply because they are conversing with a like-minded subset of the population in an echo chamber.
Importing men from backwards, misogynistic cultures - the left should, in theory, oppose this.
Importing people hyper-religious conservative countries - the left should, in theory, oppose this.
Importing people who have no respect for the environment or animals - the left should, in theory, oppose this.
The left has a stronger, more logically consistent case against immigration than the right does. That is precisely why being anti-immigration used to be a firmly leftist position.
But today, it will get you excommunicated from any leftist circle. And why? Because George Soros came along in the 80s and brutally raped every single leftist org until they were buckbroken into the perfect, unwitting stewards of global capital.
Now we are stuck listening to shitlibs talk about why it's more important to be “kind” to brown people than it is to stop little girls from getting groomed by Pakistanis.
And this goes back to the stupid cookie drawing. The rich guy with the stack of cookies would NEVER tell you to hate the foreigner.
He’d try to convince you the foreigner is a net benefit to your society. That he brings good food and culture and pizzazz.
And when that stopped working on you, he’d tell you the foreigner is better than you, and that more foreigners are needed because you’re too lazy and stupid to accept a crumb instead of a whole cookie.
Immigration and deportation is an administrative process. Immigration courts, immigration judges, immigration hearings, etc.. are all part of the administrative process, and are NOT carried out by the judicial branch. They are part of the DOJ and report to the executive branch. They have their own administrative process to follow, which does not require federal (judicial branch) judges. The federal courts and SCOTUS accept that proper administrative procedure constitutes due process, as long as it is followed. Federal courts will not take an appeal based solely on the premise that the immigrant wanted a judicial branch judge to review the case instead of an immigration judge or administrative proceeding.
Illegal is illegal. I get due process because I'm a citizen. Illegals don't because they aren't within the realm of the constitution regardless of a lower courts judgement. You gotta get past that.
Illegal is illegal. I get due process because I'm a citizen. Illegals don't because they aren't within the realm of the constitution regardless of a lower courts judgement. You gotta get past that.
If you are a member of Tren de Agua, you leave, and that is 100% up to DHS/ICE officials, not judges
Still, administrative process must exist which allows for due process, and the judicial branch CAN intervene if due process is not maintained
Okay, I'm done. SCOTUS has ruled specifically that the decision of executive officials is due process enough, given the total power granted to Executives
So if someone from Venezuela is on temporary protected status (TPS) because they sought asylum from political persecution, what happens if that person is arrested in a night club for being associated with gang activity ?
The concept of 'asylum' has become virtually meaningless through abuse and fraud. If anything, proof should be required before 'asylum' is granted, not by showing up on the border on the basis of self assertion and spun tales.
because they sought asylum from political persecution
The concept of 'asylum' has become virtually meaningless through abuse and fraud. If anything, proof should be required before 'asylum' is granted, not by showing up on the border on the basis of self assertion and spun tales
To satisfy those who are harping about illegals' "due process",
The concept of 'asylum' has become virtually meaningless through abuse and fraud. If anything, proof should be required before 'asylum' is granted, not by showing up on the border on the basis of self assertion and spun tales.
You are wrong to advocate the invasion of our country, subversion of the electoral process through the mass of illegal bodies for redistricting and illegal voting, the immense tax burden illegals impose, the competition for housing which prevents Americans from forming families, and the crushing effect on wages for the lower classes of US citizens.
California’s estimated $10B deficit matches ‘precisely’ the cost of illegal immigrant healthcare
The concept of 'asylum' has become virtually meaningless through abuse and fraud.
Proving once again that C&C readers are far ahead of the media’s curve, yesterday, the New York Times ran a story headlined, “Trump Officials Consider Suspending Habeas Corpus for Detained Migrants.” “The Constitution is clear,” White House Deputy Chief of Staff Steven Miller told reporters outside the White House. The writ of habeas corpus “could be suspended in time of invasion.” Miller was completely correct.
The “somebody said something” story, if you can call it that, was a steaming heap of journalistic excrement. For one example, after repeatedly referring to the writ of habeas corpus as a “right” until readers got the message, it finally got around to quoting the Constitution, which expressly refers to the writ as a “privilege.” Only then did the Times admit circumspectly that it is “a right generally guaranteed.”
Sadly, Times readers are the least well-educated members of our society. They need some kind of remedial program.
A quick refresher for our Portland readers (who, at least, surpass New York Times subscribers in educational attainment). “Habeas corpus” is Old Latin for “show the body.” It’s the legal system’s emergency brake for the government to produce an arrestee in court and justify their imprisonment. It forces officials to either put up (with evidence) or shut up (and release the person), putting the kibosh on secret or indefinite detentions. When courts issue the writ, they’re saying: “Bring the prisoner here, now, and prove you have the right to hold them or else let them go.”
Next, after stating as a fact that the writ may only be suspended by Congress, and not the President, the Times then reported that the four times in American history it was suspended was by presidents. It quoted the infamous story of Lincoln’s suspension, oddly, without mentioning his equally infamous defiance of the Supreme Court’s chief judge. All the Times recalled about that remarkable story was this passive-voice chestnut: “his move was challenged.”
Instead, the Times focused on the fact that Congress eventually authorized Lincoln’s suspension retroactively— two years after the fact.
That retroactive approval was the only time —of the four times— that Congress got involved. So the Times’ argument was at best incomplete, and ignored the strong precedent available to President Trump.
That isn’t to say the article didn’t raise some talking points. It mentioned that three federal judges so far have challenged the Administration’s invocation of an “invasion,” a type of reflexive judicial invasion of the political sphere that would have been much more welcome during the pandemic, when Biden and his progressive allies closed churches and mandated experimental medical treatments, or during the 2020 election debacle, back when judges deferred en masse to “political questions.” But set judicial restraint aside, since the courts have also.
But everything we need to know about the Gray Lady’s journalistic merits was betrayed by the fact that the story quoted zero experts supporting Trump’s position or even allowing it has some historical merit. So much for balance.
I hesitate to predict whether Trump will actually suspend the writ. The hanging threat of suspending it might be a better tool than its use in practice. But if he does suspend the writ, it will only be because the courts —which never interfered with Obama’s or Clinton’s mass deportation schemes— have made it impossible to remove large groups of foreign nationals without time-consuming individual due process.
Despite the Times’ best efforts to confuse everybody and make it impossible to have an intelligent debate, there is a good argument about due process in the context of mass deportation. My legal perspective is that it will come down to the simple question of whether the U.S. is “under invasion” or not. If millions of illegal entries of foreign nationals is an invasion, even a non-traditional one, then the Constitution expressly allows due process to be temporarily suspended.
During the Constitutional Debates, founder James Madison argued that “in cases of imminent danger the general government ought to be empowered to defend the whole Union.” And in Federalist No. 43, Madison explicitly included “insurrections” and even “domestic violence” as threats akin to foreign invasions— and said the federal government must intervene.
That particular type of key question —whether or not something that looks like an invasion is in fact a “real” invasion— has never been decided by courts, which have always deferred to the political branches, especially in times of emergency. A ruling on the constitutional validity of Trump’s “invasion” declaration would push the courts into shaky new legal ground —a real example of overreaching— a nuance the Times studiously ignored.
The AI feeder/scraper agents are becoming quite clever. Kudos Patrick - "they" are so desperate they're seeking out niche independent blogs to feed into their LLM and finally get the missing ingredient to defeat independent thought.
This is what the Lefties like DeficitHawk and RWSGFY want exploited with a Democrat administration
There should be already processes or regulations to comply with when conducting deportations of those who have been given some level of status by the US federal government.
This is not right. I dont agree. You are confusing the treatment of 'arriving'/'entrant' immigrants with the rights of people already here. They are not the same.
DeficitHawk, give me an instance why a Federal Judge could cancel a deportation. Assuming there's a hearing and the alien is standing in the courtroom.
Keeping in mind Congress has the Constitutional right make a law stating aliens who like Teletubbies are undesirable
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