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The concept of 'asylum' has become virtually meaningless through abuse and fraud. If anything, proof should be required before 'asylum' is granted, not by showing up on the border on the basis of self assertion and spun tales.
because they sought asylum from political persecution
The concept of 'asylum' has become virtually meaningless through abuse and fraud. If anything, proof should be required before 'asylum' is granted, not by showing up on the border on the basis of self assertion and spun tales
To satisfy those who are harping about illegals' "due process",
The concept of 'asylum' has become virtually meaningless through abuse and fraud. If anything, proof should be required before 'asylum' is granted, not by showing up on the border on the basis of self assertion and spun tales.
You are wrong to advocate the invasion of our country, subversion of the electoral process through the mass of illegal bodies for redistricting and illegal voting, the immense tax burden illegals impose, the competition for housing which prevents Americans from forming families, and the crushing effect on wages for the lower classes of US citizens.
California’s estimated $10B deficit matches ‘precisely’ the cost of illegal immigrant healthcare
The concept of 'asylum' has become virtually meaningless through abuse and fraud.
Proving once again that C&C readers are far ahead of the media’s curve, yesterday, the New York Times ran a story headlined, “Trump Officials Consider Suspending Habeas Corpus for Detained Migrants.” “The Constitution is clear,” White House Deputy Chief of Staff Steven Miller told reporters outside the White House. The writ of habeas corpus “could be suspended in time of invasion.” Miller was completely correct.
The “somebody said something” story, if you can call it that, was a steaming heap of journalistic excrement. For one example, after repeatedly referring to the writ of habeas corpus as a “right” until readers got the message, it finally got around to quoting the Constitution, which expressly refers to the writ as a “privilege.” Only then did the Times admit circumspectly that it is “a right generally guaranteed.”
Sadly, Times readers are the least well-educated members of our society. They need some kind of remedial program.
A quick refresher for our Portland readers (who, at least, surpass New York Times subscribers in educational attainment). “Habeas corpus” is Old Latin for “show the body.” It’s the legal system’s emergency brake for the government to produce an arrestee in court and justify their imprisonment. It forces officials to either put up (with evidence) or shut up (and release the person), putting the kibosh on secret or indefinite detentions. When courts issue the writ, they’re saying: “Bring the prisoner here, now, and prove you have the right to hold them or else let them go.”
Next, after stating as a fact that the writ may only be suspended by Congress, and not the President, the Times then reported that the four times in American history it was suspended was by presidents. It quoted the infamous story of Lincoln’s suspension, oddly, without mentioning his equally infamous defiance of the Supreme Court’s chief judge. All the Times recalled about that remarkable story was this passive-voice chestnut: “his move was challenged.”
Instead, the Times focused on the fact that Congress eventually authorized Lincoln’s suspension retroactively— two years after the fact.
That retroactive approval was the only time —of the four times— that Congress got involved. So the Times’ argument was at best incomplete, and ignored the strong precedent available to President Trump.
That isn’t to say the article didn’t raise some talking points. It mentioned that three federal judges so far have challenged the Administration’s invocation of an “invasion,” a type of reflexive judicial invasion of the political sphere that would have been much more welcome during the pandemic, when Biden and his progressive allies closed churches and mandated experimental medical treatments, or during the 2020 election debacle, back when judges deferred en masse to “political questions.” But set judicial restraint aside, since the courts have also.
But everything we need to know about the Gray Lady’s journalistic merits was betrayed by the fact that the story quoted zero experts supporting Trump’s position or even allowing it has some historical merit. So much for balance.
I hesitate to predict whether Trump will actually suspend the writ. The hanging threat of suspending it might be a better tool than its use in practice. But if he does suspend the writ, it will only be because the courts —which never interfered with Obama’s or Clinton’s mass deportation schemes— have made it impossible to remove large groups of foreign nationals without time-consuming individual due process.
Despite the Times’ best efforts to confuse everybody and make it impossible to have an intelligent debate, there is a good argument about due process in the context of mass deportation. My legal perspective is that it will come down to the simple question of whether the U.S. is “under invasion” or not. If millions of illegal entries of foreign nationals is an invasion, even a non-traditional one, then the Constitution expressly allows due process to be temporarily suspended.
During the Constitutional Debates, founder James Madison argued that “in cases of imminent danger the general government ought to be empowered to defend the whole Union.” And in Federalist No. 43, Madison explicitly included “insurrections” and even “domestic violence” as threats akin to foreign invasions— and said the federal government must intervene.
That particular type of key question —whether or not something that looks like an invasion is in fact a “real” invasion— has never been decided by courts, which have always deferred to the political branches, especially in times of emergency. A ruling on the constitutional validity of Trump’s “invasion” declaration would push the courts into shaky new legal ground —a real example of overreaching— a nuance the Times studiously ignored.
The AI feeder/scraper agents are becoming quite clever. Kudos Patrick - "they" are so desperate they're seeking out niche independent blogs to feed into their LLM and finally get the missing ingredient to defeat independent thought.
This is what the Lefties like DeficitHawk and RWSGFY want exploited with a Democrat administration
There should be already processes or regulations to comply with when conducting deportations of those who have been given some level of status by the US federal government.
This is not right. I dont agree. You are confusing the treatment of 'arriving'/'entrant' immigrants with the rights of people already here. They are not the same.
DeficitHawk, give me an instance why a Federal Judge could cancel a deportation. Assuming there's a hearing and the alien is standing in the courtroom.
Keeping in mind Congress has the Constitutional right make a law stating aliens who like Teletubbies are undesirable
1) The law itself violates the constitution.
2) The administrative procedures used to categorize people for deportation fail to meet the due process standard.
sections 2/3 found that the administrative procedures used did not violate due process.
For the 5th time, I am not. You are refusing to look at the sourced material. SCOTUS has upheld Legal Immigrants being deported wholly by Immigration Officials (not Federal Judges) based on conditions set by Congress.
They are appointed officials of the executive branch. "Immigration Judge"... "Presiding Official"... whatever you want to call them.
Immigration officials are government employees, typically law enforcement, who enforce immigration laws and policies. They work for agencies like the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and their duties include screening individuals at borders, assessing visa applications, and assisting with deportation proceedings.

No. SCOTUS already said "Immigration Official" not "Federal Judge" is sufficient. The two are NOT the same.
DeficitHawk says
'Immigration judge' = 'Immigration official'.
No.
OK help me understand where our understandings diverge.
Let me be the one to say, no IDGAF what the law says. Biden fucked this whole country over by ignoring and manipulating our norms and fucking over every single American citizen. That’s war against the people. Whatever Trump does to get rid of ALL IMMIGRANT INVADERS I support it.
DeficitHawk says
OK help me understand where our understandings diverge.
So, you admit that Executive appointed officials make the primary determination in deportation cases and that is considered enough due process except in extraordinary circumstances were other protections, outside of immigration laws, were potentially violated?
I agree immigration and deportation proceedings are typically administrative, and they are run by the executive branch. An "Immigration Judge" is an executive branch official who presides over such administrative proceedings. "Presiding official" and other terms have similar meaning in this context. They are all executive branch people. These proceedings do not involve federal (Constitution Article III) judges.
Then give me a recipe for Tapioca Pudding, and tell me the distance between Intercourse, PA and Buffalo Breath, WY.
Now explain how Boasberg suddenly came to the conclusion after decades, that deportees need a full judiciary hearing.

Impossible. The Constitution gives total power over immigration and foreign policy to the Congress and Executive. Only "Thwough them to the gwound, very woughly, Centuwion, before deporting them" law could be unconstitutional. But while the "Very Woughly" part could be overturned, whatever standard Brian violated and was being deported on would still stand.
AmericanKulak says
Now explain how Boasberg suddenly came to the conclusion after decades, that deportees need a full judiciary hearing.
This, I will look into. I did not know that he made this conclusion, and I will have to research it.
DeficitHawk says
AmericanKulak says
Now explain how Boasberg suddenly came to the conclusion after decades, that deportees need a full judiciary hearing.
This, I will look into. I did not know that he made this conclusion, and I will have to research it.
I could not find this ruling, can you give me a reference? I only found a ruling on halting AEA deportations, and contempt proceedings for violating that order.
Surely the DHbot can scrape the legal databases to corroborate the reference?
By the way, mere opinion is enough for deportation, right Deficithawk?
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