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Correct. I haven't seen any Scramjet SSOs or Maglevs or entirely new Scientific Systems brought in by Third World Immigrants. Unlike Railroads, Steam Engines, Theory of Bacteria, etc. that went abroad FROM the First World in the 19th and 20th Centuries.

I do see high value added jobs, trade secrets, and classified information being distributed back to the Third World FROM the First World via "Asian Family Values" (aka Nepotism) and back to the CCP.

Basically Americans were taxed to subsidize Cold War era Electronics and Computers and Telephony in the 1950s and 60s... only to give the peace dividend fruit of those jobs not to their sons, but to complete strangers from the Far Side of the World - who think this is a favor to those sons.

Meanwhile I see pre 1960s diesel and steam engines back among the people who claim they're helping us set up the technology we invented.

If millions of Asian H1Bs and H2s help our economy... why haven't they helped their own economy?

Everybody knows now that most of the Southern Growth was due to traitor US/EU CEOs transfering knowledge and jobs to foreigners, not from the own efforts of the South.

Of course, the cope answer isn't domestic corruption, but that somehow a few tons of saffron and cinnamon created the British Industrial Revolution (Which actually began a century before Clyde and was fueled by British Coal and British Iron from the Pennines a few miles from the cities, not tea from Bengal - and the first big tea imports were from China. It's the Brits that brought the whole tea operation FROM China due to the balance of trade)



A country should NEVER encourage it's best and brightest to go abroad.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

A country should NEVER encourage it's best and brightest to go abroad.

True, but the local politicians are happy about the foreign earned remittances sent to the home country.

Just a minute ago I was thinking of some of the cases of foreign females tricking some American suckers to marry them; most are divorced.
All of the below had overstayed their respective tourist or student visas.

1. M from Peru: she is still married, but she fucks guys behind her husband's back, and moved her mother into their house.
2. H from Japan: she had a kid with the poor sucker, then divorced him. He actually loved her; too bad pal.
3. M from Japan: she married a guy, moved from California to NY and they got divorced. She turned into a glutton and ruined her hot racked out figure.
4. M from Peru: she married a guy in Oklahoma, then divorced him and moved to San Francisco; he tried to get her back and actually followed her out.
5. T from Japan; she asked me to marry her to save her from deportation, but I declined. She found another guy and I believe they're still together.
6. C from Mexico; she met a guy in Florida; he wasn't professional nor wealthy but she offered him cash to marry her. She tricked him into marriage after he accepted the money (a serious crime) so he went through with it. She divorced him and he was very upset about it. She later had a guy who knocked her up; now she has a daughter several years old. She's going to try to get back child support but she's not living in Florida now.
7. M from Colombia: she overstayed her tourist visa with her 16 year old (hot) daughter. She hoped to snare me into her honey trap but forgot that I am a confirmed "don't give a fuck" guy. She worked here and there for other foreigners to survive until her hot daughter was old enough to marry some other sucker. Now she's probably going to become "legal" after her daughter gets her papers in order.

These are just cases which I am personally aware of; imagine the thousands of sneaky foreign females who con suckers into marriage for the green card.

Wow, these guys are seriously insecure. Transactional relationships are no bueno. In business it might be alright but, in your personal life? No bueno.

Woman is extremely upset because “I was called by my HR with my current employer this morning to inform me that my official last day with the company will be the 21st of this month”

She's a DACA bitch.

But with a mouth like hers, she probably can suck a sugar daddy's dick to stay.

MolotovCocktail says

Woman is extremely upset because “I was called by my HR with my current employer this morning to inform me that my official last day with the company will be the 21st of this month”

She's a DACA bitch.

But with a mouth like hers, she probably can suck a sugar daddy's dick to stay.

AND here is her update. WTF is wrong with this country?

She'll be fat in due time.

Patrick says

How do they get away with not paying taxes? Working for cash? Citizens can do it too. Most small businesses underpay a lot in taxes.

clambo says

She'll be fat in due time.

she's perfect for some black bro

KgK one says

they did...heavily armed and ready to fight

The difference is treason. Our own government is allowing it. Imagine the Indian, instead of saying go back, says instead, Hola welcome to the land of plenty where the citizens will be taxed so you can have plenty. Come take their jobs and vote for whatever you want.

That's a pretty big fucking difference.

Eric Holder says

How do they get away with not paying taxes?

Illegals make enough to pay taxes?
Illegals are working on the books?

Booger says

Eric Holder says

How do they get away with not paying taxes?

Illegals make enough to pay taxes?
Illegals are working on the books?

Eric Holder says

Working for cash? Citizens can do it too. Most small businesses underpay a lot in taxes.

So I nailed it: working for cash.

PS. The on-the-books threshold for paying FIT is $14,600, CA income tax - $10K and everybody pays sales tax.

Eric Holder says

everybody pays sales tax.

I've seen videos of the flash mobs. They ain't payin' no sales tax.

Misc says

Eric Holder says

everybody pays sales tax.

I've seen videos of the flash mobs. They ain't payin' no sales tax.

Corner case.

Booger says

Booger says

Seems to be real:

https://slaynews.com/news/illegal-alien-caught-real-new-york-drivers-license-marked-no-name-given/

Officials in deep-blue New York are under fire after it emerged that the state had issued a genuine driver’s license to an illegal alien who failed to even provide his own name.

An illegal alien was caught carrying a New York commercial driver’s license with “NO NAME GIVEN” listed as his name.

The Indian national, identified as Anmol Anmol, was arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in Oklahoma, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced Friday.

The arrest came during a three-day joint enforcement sweep along Interstate 40, conducted by ICE and the Oklahoma Highway Patrol.

The operation was targeting illegal aliens operating heavy trucks.

DHS confirmed that Anmol was carrying a valid Class A CDL issued by New York state in April, with a federally recognized REAL ID star, despite being in the country illegally.

DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin slammed New York’s licensing policies, saying the state had effectively handed the ability to operate 80,000-pound rigs to illegal aliens.

“New York is not only failing to check if applicants applying to drive 18-wheelers are U.S. citizens but even failing to obtain the full legal names of individuals they are issuing commercial driver’s licenses to,” McLaughlin said.

“Allowing illegal aliens to obtain commercial driver’s licenses to operate 18-wheelers and transport hazardous materials on America’s roads is reckless and incredibly dangerous to public safety.”

It was probably another illegal alien working at the DMV that gave it to him.

Patrick says

DHS confirmed that Anmol was carrying a valid Class A CDL issued by New York state in April, with a federally recognized REAL ID star, despite being in the country illegally.

Then the REAL ID is meaningless.

GNL says

It was probably another illegal alien working at the DMV that gave it to him.

Based on what I overheard conversation with illegals sometimes at DMV, it’s not that hard to get ID.

https://x.com/JohnStrandUSA/status/1977334473562943520

Everyone knows hospitals charge more and go after regular americans to make up for being stiffed by illegals.

https://nypost.com/2025/10/12/business/3-workers-died-at-hyundais-georgia-plant-since-2022-before-us-immigration-raid-report/

3 workers died at Hyundai’s Georgia plant since 2022, before US immigration raid: report ...

The plant, which is operated through a joint venture between Hyundai and South Korea’s LG Energy Solution, has been in the limelight since an immigration raid last month that detained hundreds of South Korean workers in the largest single-site enforcement operation in the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s history.

Apart from the deaths, more than a dozen workers have suffered serious injuries, including from falling without wearing harnesses and getting crushed by forklifts, according to the Journal.

The workers interviewed by the WSJ said Hyundai did not ensure that people were properly trained, and safety regulators did little to prevent worksite violations, the report added.

A lot of the savings from employing illegal aliens is that employers don't have to worry about safety standards, since illegals are not going to complain.

Saves us some tax money too....no workers comp.

The negatives far outweigh the benefits though.

Here's my solution to immigration.

1) Give all illegal / undocumented persons six months to voluntarrily report their status to the government. Fingerprint them, give them a photo IDs and a tax Id Number (NOT a SS Number) so they can work and pay taxes. Make them list residence so we know where they live.

If possible, do a background check with the county they originated from to ensure no criminal record.

If they move they better update their info, otherwise they are considering AWOL and subject to deportation. As a non citizen, your are a guest in our country. Act accordingly.

2) Render them ineligible for federally funded government services for three years. No WIC, no Section 8, no access to Medicare, none of that. Either they can make a go at the American dream through hard work or they can't. If they need assistance, let charitable organizations fill the gap. If they need healthcare, let them buy a policy on the open market or get one through their employer. No more crowding emergency rooms for routine care.

3) One strike and your out clause. Commit a crime (other than a misdemeanor like speeding) your gone. Out. Don't come back.

4) Overhaul the immigration process so that it takes less time for one to enter the country legally.

Let's get back to, give me your tired, your, poor... But not give out free stuff or subsidize those who can't earn a living. Either you make it or you don't. Charity should come from the private sector via philanthropy or from religious institutions NOT from the government.

I'm all about giving people a chance, and of the millions of illegals MOST are just trying to better their lot in life, but we need to balance this with the reality that we cannot allow ourselves to become a welfare state or welfare nation.

Some rights are inherent, others are earned as a result of citizenship. It's important to know the difference.

I'm not a fan of the ICE raids and deportations. I get why it's happening but it doesn't seem like they are targeting actual violent criminals, gang members and drug pushers, but rather casting a wide net in the hopes the catch a few diliquents in the process. That seems inefficient.

Back in the day (before the 1980's), you came here, and within 2 years or less you had a green card. The H1B abuse is so bad now, both for the chindians and the American jobs they steal.

I personally know of chindians who have been waiting 15 years for a green card. In the meantime, they've raised their families in this country, and the whole family is at risk of deportation. This wouldn't happen if the H1B scam hadn't been ginned up.

The H1B scam should be completely shut down. Bring it back to the way it used to be - immigrate, then if you're good, get a green card; otherwise, get the fuck out of this country you grifting foreigner.

stereotomy says

The H1B scam should be completely shut down. Bring it back to the way it used to be - immigrate, then if you're good, get a green card; otherwise, get the fuck out of this country you grifting foreigner.

I don't remember what it was like pre 1980, I mean, I was around, but was more into He-Man and Smurfs than H1B particulars.

I'll take your word for it.

I agree that streamlining the system is key. 15 years for a green card is ridiculous.

stereotomy says

Back in the day (before the 1980's), you came here, and within 2 years or less you had a green card.

H1B holders were getting GCs in less than 2 years up until 2000, early 2001. Then the labor certification step (PERM) of the process was brought to a screeching halt by hordes of illegals gumming up the system because Slick Willie allowed them to apply while heading out of the WH door.

I know people on both sides of this situation: ones who got their GC in a year and the ones who were stuck in PERM limbo for many years, lost their job, lost their place in line, restarted the process, rinsed, repeated....

I don’t keep track of the current status but I heard that it takes 80 years to get GC for H1B from someone few months back based on the current wait times. I suspect that it’s for Chinese and Indians. Other countries take far less time.

GreaterNYCDude says

Here's my solution to immigration.

Your system does nothing to prevent illegals from coming. In fact, your system is outright amnesty for all present and future illegals just by doing some paperwork. The real solution is come here legally or get deported, and set up a guest worker program for any actual labor shortages.

stereotomy says

The H1B scam should be completely shut down.

Read the poultry workers wage fixing (antitrust) lawsuit which cited that poultry companies like Perdue and Tyson would bring in immigrant workers to keep wages down, not because there is a shortage of workers.

The "cartel" like White Western Mens Club and Econfina Club are behind bringing in immigrant workers to Bay County and Panama City Beach, and thats why the rent to income ratio has continued to increase steadily since at least the last 20 years.

HeadSet says

GreaterNYCDude says

Here's my solution to immigration.

Your system does nothing to prevent illegals from coming. In fact, your system is outright amnesty for all present and future illegals just by doing some paperwork. The real solution is come here legally or get deported, and set up a guest worker program for any actual labor shortages.

The lack of eligibility for federally funded services is a disincentive. Call it amnesty if you want but I call it compassion. If you live here, work here and are not a criminal, stay. We are a country of immigrants after all... but only if you can survive without the government safety net as a backstop.

Stop clogging our emergency rooms for non emergency matters, stop expecting us to subsidize your food, housing and childcare costs.

Look I realize that entering illegally is a crime in and of itself but since they are here already might as well keep the hard working ones. If the services are eliminated that's a huge diencentive for anyone who was living off the various welfare programs that exist... FOR AMERICANS.

And since I'm a big on states rights and limited federal government, if MA or NY or CA want to give handouts... That's on them. Just don't expect to funnel federal dollars to non-citizens; if you do then you should have your federal funding cut off.

I also think that in this day and age where assimilation is resited wather than encouraged by some ethnic groups, an English language test and possibly an American culture test would help; but that would require Congress declaring English the official language of the USA first. But I digress.

Is it a perfect solution... No but it's an attempt to compromise. People, even illegally here, have dignity and value. If your hard working and can make your own way, why would send those sorts of people back on the basis of one bad decision (that is to say entering without authorization)

Given how gummed up the system is I can understand why some simply cross a fence rather than wait decades to get in the "right" (that is to say legal) way.

But hey, you don't need to agree with me, it's simply one mans opinion.