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clambo says

I avoid night flights; I'm afraid now.

Don't be. Someone messed up. It's a 1 in a million situation. I fly into one the worst landing strips close to monthly at Midway in Chicago. San Diego might have it beat as worst to land in. I don't do East coast so I'm sure there are shitty ones there.

At Midway the runways are short. The 737 can land there, but on so many flights people get the shit scared out of themselves. I've seen people cry. You literally have to brace for every landing. If you somehow weren't wearing your seatbelt you will get tossed into the seat in front of you. I've talked to pilots and only certain ones are allowed to fly into Midway.

That's why I think it was the chopper. Planes have patterns and ATC gives them directions about altitude, speed, other aircraft, etc. They should have seen the chopper on the plane, but who knows, the instructor may not have looked if the lights were on for the chopper. The plane would have avoided it.

1) ATF workers pissed off that they might get fired.

2) As a rule, I don't care much what happens on the East Coast. It's a completely foreign world to me. In turn, they don't give a damn about the Western US. For both, it's just something both sides see on TV.

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/army-black-hawk-was-on-training-flight

Last night, shortly before 9pm ET, an American Airlines flight carrying 64 people was on its final approach to Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport when it collided with an Army helicopter with three soldiers on board, about 400 feet off the ground, killing everyone on both aircraft.

The Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk had departed from Fort Belvoir in Virginia with a flight path that cut directly across the flight path of Reagan National Airport




This final approach is probably the most carefully controlled in the world, as it it lies three miles south of the White House and the Capitol.

According to various media reports, military aircraft frequently train in the congested airspace around D.C. for “familiarization and continuity of government planning.”

Less than 30 seconds before the crash, an air traffic controller asked the helicopter, whose callsign was registered as PAT25, if he could see the arriving plane.

'PAT25 do you see a CRJ? PAT 25 pass behind the CRJ,' the air traffic controller said. A few seconds later, a fireball erupted in the night sky above Washington DC as the two aircraft collided. ...

On the face of it, it strikes me as very imprudent to conduct training flights at night that cross the final approach to Reagan D.C. To me, the word “training” suggests a potential for making errors that an instructor is called upon to correct.

It also strikes me as very strange that Army Blackhawk helicopters operating in this airspace at night are not required to operate with bright external lights, especially when crossing the final approach to Reagan D.C.

Finally, though it’s nothing more than a vague intuition, it seems to me that there is something very strange about this disaster and the timing of it. I wonder if, for some reason, risk management of such training activities was impaired.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

2) As a rule, I don't care much what happens on the East Coast. It's a completely foreign world to me. In turn, they don't give a damn about the Western US. For both, it's just something both sides see on TV.

West Coast and Rockies have more fun. I give no shits for anything East coast and it's closer for me. I go south or west. We'll hit up Acadia national park at some point in Maine, but that will 100% be my last trip east from PA north/east outside of a layover flight.

I know there are some east coasters here, but I just don't get the desire to live there. Jobs obviously. But cities specifically, why? Appalachian mountains I get, but there's really nothing else and I don't consider them mountains anyway. Move to Nashville area or surrounding. NYC and Boston can eat a turd. Same with DC and Baltimore. Philly. They're shit holes.

Patrick says

It also strikes me as very strange that Army Blackhawk helicopters operating in this airspace at night are not required to operate with bright external lights

The helo was operating with lights. They are visible on the video of the crash: https://www.foxnews.com/us/video-shows-dc-plane-crash-involving-american-airlines-flight-black-hawk-helicopter

Eric Holder says

Patrick says

It also strikes me as very strange that Army Blackhawk helicopters operating in this airspace at night are not required to operate with bright external lights

The helo was operating with lights. They are visible on the video of the crash: https://www.foxnews.com/us/video-shows-dc-plane-crash-involving-american-airlines-flight-black-hawk-helicopter

So pilot or ATC error. Makes no sense to fly a chopper in the known approach path of a major airport. Or intentional if we go conspiracy. Even if it was training you know your airspace before leaving the ground and plan. Someone failed massively. You know the winds and know which way planes would be landing.

None of it makes sense as an armchair pilot. The chopper shouldn't have been there.

clambo says

What the hell are helicopters doing flying around airports?

I avoid night flights; I'm afraid now.

The lit up monuments are beautiful at night. They have the entire region for training flights but most of the region doesn't have those beautiful sites.

I'm going to assume that means that there will be a new episode of Mayday:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayday(Canadian_TV_series)

Mayday is a Canadian documentary television program examining air crashes, near-crashes, hijackings, bombings, and other disasters. Mayday uses re-enactments and computer-generated imagery to reconstruct the sequence of events leading up to each disaster. In addition, survivors, aviation experts, retired pilots, and crash investigators are interviewed, to explain how the emergencies came about, how they were investigated, and how they might have been prevented.

Nothing strange about training flight in that airspace, btw. Training flights happen everywhere. One can land a Cessna-172 at night in a very busy airport like SFO on a training flight if so desires (and doesn't mind paying landing fees).

Of course Army helo
pilots train there because they provide taxi services for the Army top brass.

Everybody is gaslighting it as an accidental crash, as expected, instead of the helicopter being hacked like the ship in Baltimore Harbor and used as a auto pilot missile.

The whole thing is buried in so much bullshit already, I doubt anything reliable will come out for a while from some whistleblower dormouse. "Let it fade into the memory hole until some other distraction arises."

"The FBI released a statement “confirming” there were no signs of foul play or terrorism…"

Gee, isn't that what all the terrorists say?

https://rumble.com/v6exd8m-the-fbi-released-a-statement-confirming-there-were-no-signs-of-foul-play-or.html

https://t.me/candlesinthenight/80139

Well, that inspires confidence.

https://rumble.com/v6f49wa-pete-hegseth-the-military-craft-was-on-a-continuity-of-government-mission.html

"The Soros Fecal Impaction Crip Parade did it!"

https://rumble.com/v6f50xm-president-trump-scorches-the-faas-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-policies.html

AD says

"It just seems surreal that an Army Blackhawk helicopter would get in way
of landing path of an American Eagle plane at Reagan National Airport."

This is an Air Traffic Control (ATC) blunder because they allowed the helicopter to fly in front
of a landing runway. The helicopter had no business being there. So, the question facing
the investigators right now is what were they smoking in the ATC?

Definitely an ATC blunder, but helo should never be in flight paths of planes. That is on the Army for not training their pilots to stay out of the landing pattern. In 3D space that includes both elevation (could have flown the helo either higher or lower, or just avoid runways altogether. It’s something an adolescent could predict/prevent.

the H-60 is the Blackhawk helicopter, the AE is the American Eagle jet liner, and the red asterisk is the other jet liner and I wonder if H-60 pilots got major disoriented with their vision of AE and the other jet liner being one bright light

https://rumble.com/v6f67cp-x-user-spookdblog-on-d.c.-air-tragedy-he-knows-stuff.html\\https://rumble.com/embed/v6cxsbv/?pub=m9199


original link

Good explanation here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zwp2NEHzrMI

In a nutshell: the helo
pilots thought the traffic they were being warned about was the plane taking off.

https://t.me/STFNVIDEO/37073

LOL! Illuminati Card Game again.

Could be worse like sabotage such as hacking of Blackhawk and/or American Eagle jet controls via an operator on a small craft on the Potomac.

Read about the USS John McCain collision which still seems surrounded in a shroud of secrecy.

Maybe it didn't have a crew, either. Or, maybe a crew that was already killed before takeoff.

Ceffer says

Maybe it didn't have a crew, either. Or, maybe a crew that was already killed before takeoff.

And a planeload of Soviet figure scaters who died back in the 90s and have been kept on ice somewhere until the day they became useful for a false flag.

Helicopter was ordered to return to base, urgently, and did not. Nor did it confirm the message sent repeatedly by ATC. Then ATC told the copter to land.



Rumors of Trans but nothing concrete or verifiable. One female pilot, however.

AD says

Read about the USS John McCain collision which still seems surrounded in a shroud of secrecy.

There was another near miss by the McCain underway in the Middle East and the Captain was sacked. Also a video of him mounting a rifle scope in reverse.

Unlucky ship.

AmericanKulak says

Helicopter was ordered to return to base, urgently, and did not. Nor did it confirm the message sent repeatedly by ATC. Then ATC told the copter to land.

The question is was there a motive at this point. There's no way at that angle that they didn't see the plane even at night. Ignore ATC calls. Mid air collisions just don't happen, it really should be impossible with tech and communication to hit another object flying in 3D space knowing it was a pattern for a runway.

Trump likes aviation so I hope he boosts the standards for all armed services. I'm not an investigator but this appears to 100% be the choppers fault. A chopper can get to 1k feet in under a minute and they know the pattern for the airport. As I said in another comment, 1 in million chance or it was intentional.

3. Trannie revenge. - Winner, winner, chicken dinner?

A Transgender Pilot Named Jo Ellis Flew Blackhawk Helicopter Into the American Airlines Jet at Reagan National

The pilot of the Black Hawk helicopter that crashed directly into a Bombardier jet carrying 64 passengers Wednesday evening, has been identified by podcaster Luke Ford as Chief Warrant Officer 2 (CW2) Jo Ellis, a transgender woman. Jo Ellis served in the Virginia National Guard for 15 years and transitioned while serving as a pilot. She had been making radicalized anti-Trump statements on social media.

This raises the question of whether this was intentional, as President Trump himself implied. We are reporting a rumor. But on the other hand, 24 hours after the crash and the pilot and crew remain unidentified. Which is strange. The names of the crew members on the Black Hawk helicopter involved in the crash near Reagan National Airport have not been officially released by the Department of Defense at this time.

The Jo Ellis Facebook page was updated Thursday evening with a new profile photo related to the Reagan Airport collision. In apparent verification of Jo Ellis' fate, her new Facebook profile photo refers to the destroyed flight, American Airlines 5342.

President Donald J. Trump called it Thursday saying it appeared the pilot had flown directly into . And once again, Trump was right. AOC and others condemned Trump Thursday for blaming the crash on "DEI practices." Trump issued an executive order last week removing all Transgender military personnel from active duty.

Based on the information available, Jo Ellis was indeed on board the Black Hawk helicopter that was involved in the crash near Washington D.C. She was identified as a transgender woman and a Chief Warrant Officer 2 in the Virginia Army National Guard, who was piloting the helicopter at the time of the incident. However, the exact details of her role or whether she was the pilot in command remain part of the ongoing investigation and discussions. She had been vocal against Trump the day before on an interview wanting to stay in the military.

https://www.smobserved.com/story/2025/01/30/news/a-transgender-pilot-named-jo-ellis-flew-blackhawk-helicopter-into-the-american-airlines-jet-at-reagan-national/8719.html

AmericanKulak says

Helicopter was ordered to return to base, urgently, and did not. Nor did it confirm the message sent repeatedly by ATC. Then ATC told the copter to land.

Not sure what the guy think it means, but AFAIK that ATC request means they are asked to return to the base leg of the pattern.

Based on the video it seems intentional as I think about it more. Probably like the German Wings crash. If you change your gender you're mentally disabled and technically should be in an institute for retarded people. This thing was not right in the head. Not gonna give it pronouns...

You cannot miss an airplane with landing lights at the time and flashing lights that are on the whole time. I can see planes up probably 20-30k feet at night. It's not hard. They know every passenger on board. FAA needs to release all of it yesterday. You literally cannot fly through an approach like that at that level. There's going to be traffic. It was a chopper, you're at 1k feet in a minute. Why 400' altitude crossing a runway pattern? Makes no sense. Could have been 600' above the plane.

I think it was a crazy person suicide mission. Maybe someone of importance was on the jet, but I'm thinking it was pretty. obvious it was intentional at this point.
RWSGFY says

Not sure what the guy think it means, but AFAIK that ATC request means they are asked to return to the base leg of the pattern.

Pattern for choppers is completely different. And they knew it was military. Base meant get the fuck out of this airspace and go back. You can hear the urgency in his voice as well. There was no way clearance was given at 400' to cross a landing pattern for jets/planes. I'm convinced it was intentional at this point after looking at it more.

Can a helicopter be flown remotely?
Yes, a helicopter can be flown remotely, through the use of radio-controlled (RC) technology, where a pilot operates the helicopter using a controller that sends signals to the aircraft, allowing for flight without physically being onboard; this is commonly seen with hobbyist RC helicopters, but also exists in larger, more advanced systems for military and commercial applications.

komputodo says

Can a helicopter be flown remotely?
Yes, a helicopter can be flown remotely, through the use of radio-controlled (RC) technology, where a pilot operates the helicopter using a controller that sends signals to the aircraft, allowing for flight without physically being onboard; this is commonly seen with hobbyist RC helicopters, but also exists in larger, more advanced systems for military and commercial applications.

It's not news. Blackhawks do have remote control capabilities. The question is: who was talking to the ATC as helo pilot and where all the bodies of Soviet figure skaters have been kept on ice since the 90s?

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Why does it matter if the helo was flown remotely? 🤡