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Mixing can occur but doesn't have to. Pipeline operators are perfectly capable of sending different product in batches, depending on techinical requirements, customs situation, etc. Thre is always some so-called "transmix", but the amount is trivial.

Bottom line: the "mixing" wrt to transit oil is a non-issue.

RWSGFY says

Bottom line: the "mixing" wrt to transit oil is a non-issue.

For oil to be mixed or not, true. For the context we were discussing, it is.

You fucked up.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

RWSGFY says

Not under CUSMA it's not. Or rarher it's not subject to tariffs.

Prove it. Especially when that oil gets mixed in with ours. <-- gotcha!

Whatever, child. You tried to imply that transiting oil tariff-free is somehow impossible because pipelines go through the US. When pointed that existing trade agreement provides for tariff-free transit of goods from Canada you tried to imply that for oil it's impossible because of "mixing". Which is obviously wrong, because oil can be and regularly is transported in batches.

So to recoup: as it stands now there are no legal or technical obstacles for Canada's oil to be exported tariff-free through pipelines cutting across the US territory. Checkmate, mate.

RWSGFY says

You tried to imply that transiting oil tariff-free is somehow impossible because pipelines go through the US. When pointed that existing trade agreement provides for tariff-free transit of goods from Canada you tried to imply that for oil it's impossible because of "mixing". Which is obviously wrong, because oil can be and regularly is transported in batches.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Canadian oil is purposely mixed in.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

In the context of the Keystone pipeline, "oil mixing" refers to the blending of different types of crude oil within the pipeline, particularly the mixing of heavier, more viscous Canadian tar sands oil (diluted bitumen or "dilbit") with lighter conventional crude oil from other sources, like the Bakken formation in North Dakota, as it travels through the pipeline to refineries; this mixing can occur at various points along the pipeline route depending on where different oil sources are added.

You have reading problems or what?

I'm on the edge of marking the last two comments as personal.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/my-valentine-friday-february-14-2025

My goodness, there was so much more. Yesterday the AP ran a world-shaking story headlined, “Trump signs a plan for reciprocal tariffs on US trading partners, ushering in economic uncertainty.” Just wait till you hear this.

“I’ve decided, for purposes of fairness, that I will charge a reciprocal tariff,” Trump said in the Oval Office at the proclamation signing. “Meaning, whatever rates the countries charge the United States of America, we will charge them. No more, no less. In other words, they charge us a tax or tariff, then we charge them the same tax or tariff.”

The President added, “It’s fair to all. No other country can complain. This is something that should have been done many years ago.”

It was another masterstroke. One commenter observed, “If it was a literal earthquake, it would have knocked the planet off its axis.”

It was also the pushback Trump has long promised was coming to Europe. The EU countries thought they knew how to stymie Trump’s’ tariffs. They planned to apply the co-called “Canada model,” by launching trade wars against conservatives and Trump allies, like Tesla, or just the red states.

Their dumb idea was to force maximum political pressure on President Trump, to weaken his support with Americans. He he just ran rings around them.

With reciprocal tariffs, the Canada Model become a hammer they hit themselves in the head with. There’s no point in entering an automatically escalating trade war. You’re just shooting yourself in the foot over and over.

Most likely, this brilliant maneuver will immediately result in lower prices for nearly everything, as countries drop their duties and shed their taxes, VAT surcharges, and tariffs. But if it has to play out, the corporate media headlines will be constantly crying about Trump’s tit-for-tat tariffs, and will cherry-pick examples products here and there with increased prices. See, Mexican tamales now cost $2.79!

They still think we voted for lower prices. It’s practically all they have left to hold onto.

Don’t miss this: We have long subsidized Europeans by paying their unilateral taxes, VATs, and tariffs on all our international trade with them, while we weren’t charging them anything in return. The Europeans have used all that extra money to fund their massive immigration and welfare systems, not to mention undermining the U.S. every chance they got, like during the RussiaGate Hoax.

Soon, they won’t be able to afford all their insane social re-programming. In that sense, Trump’s tariff plan didn’t just help the United States. It’s helping liberate Europe.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Canadian oil is purposely mixed in.

Because there is no tariffs, duh. Once tariffs are in play the oil destined for transit won't be mixed, duh. As stated above there is no technical obstacle for shipping Canadian oil via pipeline networks w/o mixing it with any other.

You're making an ass of yourself in this thread.

'Eric Holder says

Because there is no tariffs, duh...

As stated above there is no technical obstacle for shipping Canadian oil via pipeline networks w/o mixing it with any other.

No. Because the mixed in oil is preferred by our refiners. And since that is happening, there is no way to separate what Canadian oil is merely "passing through" vs being delivered to a US consumer - unlike how one can nominally do so via the batch scheduling for other oil types.

Again: learn to read.

What can be technically done vs what is actually being done are two different things.

You guys were caught red handed trying to pitch the BS that it wasn't. Then you try to pitch more BS in a lame attempt to avoid talking about that because you don't want to admit you were flat out wrong.

That's called 'intellectual dishonesty' if you are doing it on purpose.

It is called 'being an ignorant moron' if you are not.

Just like on the Ukey threads.

Patrick says

I'm on the edge of marking the last two comments as personal.

Let them go at it. Neither are likely in the oil industry and just searching. Both are probably wrong. Similar to real estate threads. They're oil fluffers now.

I think it's funny when people talk about stuff they know nothing about or haven't experienced it at some level. I get shit on in real estate threads by a lot of users that know nothing about the industry at all. Just clickbait bull shit they buy into. I appreciate users that ask questions. I want to see where this goes to be honest as I know neither of them knows dick about the oil industry.

WookieMan says

I think it's funny when people talk about stuff they know nothing about or haven't experienced it at some level.

Then you must laugh a lot over your own comments.

Patrick says

I'm on the edge of marking the last two comments as personal.

Haha.

https://nypost.com/2025/03/11/us-news/ontario-suspends-25-electricity-surcharge-for-us-customers-after-trump-ups-aluminum-steel-tariff/

Ontario suspends 25% electricity surcharge for US customers after Trump ups aluminum, steel tariff

The Tariff Act of 1789 was the first major piece of legislation passed in the USA after the ratification of the United States Constitution. Signed into law by GEORGE WASHINGTON, July 4th, 1989.

Since the 90s, think tanks right and left and libertarian have lied to Americans that Tariffs, which built this country, financed the country and kept us at low/no debt for a century and a half, was somehow alien to our "Spirit", "Anti-American", and "Obsolete". Worse, that it started the Great Depression, or kept us from being "Competitive", when in actuality we industrialized and dominated entire global markets with our exports, with big beautiful tarrifs - BBTs