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Mexico just bent the knee.

zzyzzx says

Mexico just bent the knee.

They have to. I'll still go to Mexico but the MAGA crowd might stop. It's not just tariffs. They lose 10-20% of tourist that avoid the place, they have an even bigger problem. People will just go to FL for warm weather or Puerto Rico, USVI to get warm weather, no passport.

Most people I talk to are afraid to go to Mexico anyway. Even just 5% hit in tourism would be massive for the country excluding tariffs.

WookieMan says

They lose 10-20% of tourist that avoid the place,

At least the East coast cruise ships will no longer stop at Mexican Ports. The new port tax per person is reason enough to not go there.

zzyzzx says

Mexico just bent the knee.

Yep.

WookieMan says

They have to. I'll still go to Mexico but the MAGA crowd might stop. It's not just tariffs. They lose 10-20% of tourist that avoid the place, they have an even bigger problem. People will just go to FL for warm weather or Puerto Rico, USVI to get warm weather, no passport.

Most people I talk to are afraid to go to Mexico anyway.

Cruise ships will make extra stops to nearby Belize, Bahamas and Dominican Republic also. But agree on San Juan Puerto Rico could benefit a lot from this. I use to be stationed at NAVSTA Roosevelt Roads.

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WookieMan says

Most people I talk to are afraid to go to Mexico anyway.

Why would I want to even get off the cruise ship in a shithole? Unless it's a cruise line owned island, complete with a dock or something. Otherwise, I would get off the boat in Florida or any other US port.

zzyzzx says

Why would I want to even get off the cruise ship in a shithole? Unless it's a cruise line owned island, complete with a dock or something. Otherwise, I would get off the boat in Florida or any other US port.

You have to get in the mindset such as that of someone from rural Wisconsin or Minnesota coming down for a couple of months for winter vacation in South Florida.

They want to visit an exotic place so "shitholes" like Belize, Nassau / Bahamas, Puerta Plata / Dominican Republic, and San Juan / Puerto Rico are exciting to them.

San Juan has El Morro which is a fascinating place to visit, besides the Bacardi Rum factory.

Belize is fun cause you can easily visit Mayan ruins there.

Also Havana / Cuba was getting a lot of cruise ship tourism because of its exotic appeal.

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Trump orders military to Bud Light bomb Canada.

Canadians are becoming enemy of 🇺🇸.
Trump is making all neighbors hate USA and it will allow China and Russia to show up in 🇺🇸 neighbourhood soon.

Such a dumb moves!

Canada is a nidus of Globalist and foreign contagion encirclement to the USA. We pay them to subvert us, and Soros and MI6 and Dominion regard it as their happy playground operating from Ottawa and Montreal. They were so easily conquered by KommieKunt revolutionaries and now scream and weep that they are being abused when it is their new job to feed Satan with their suffering and wailing.

They should grab on to the opportunity to join Trump with both hands and feet.

Ceffer says

Canada is a nidus of Globalist and foreign contagion encirclement to the USA. We pay them to subvert us, and Soros and MI6 and Dominion regard it as their happy playground operating from Ottawa and Montreal. They were so easily conquered by KommieKunt revolutionaries and now scream and weep that they are being abused when it is their new job to feed Satan with their suffering and wailing.

They should grab on to the opportunity to join Trump with both hands and feet.

Ok if Trymp want Russian/Chinese bases in Canada/Mexico/Panama whatever this is great move.

MAGA crowd is serving world order to China on platter.
Penny wise —Pound foolish.

Canada is full of whiny gashes who want government healthcare, childcare, education and such. They won't join no matter what.

AD says

I use to be stationed at NAVSTA Roosevelt Roads.

I was there for a few days while we flew a joint exercise with the Navy. I remember the great snorkeling and that Navy pilots are nuts.

Hitler is informed about Trump's trade tariffs
https://youtu.be/ghVjOrgCMqM?si=MIqkTeEPDVo-Ohdl

TechBrosWon says

Ok if Trymp want Russian/Chinese bases in Canada/Mexico/Panama whatever this is great move.

MAGA crowd is serving world order to China on platter.
Penny wise —Pound foolish.

must be working good...you like Cramer on CNBC so its smart to do opposite of what you pro-Chicom cucks want or recommend

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Err, about the horrible Trump tariffs on our wonderful friendly countries:




https://t.me/followsthewhiterabbit/105339

Ok, the extra 10% tariff on Chinese goods is in effect.

Don't forget the biggest boost that items under $800 get the full tariff now. Previously they were exempt.

China does some weak sauce counter moves. Really small, but soybean prices are down signaling commodity players views that China will be buying elsewhere again.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2025-02-03/trump-tariffs-live-updates?srnd=homepage-americas

Misc says

Don't forget the biggest boost that items under $800 get the full tariff now. Previously they were exempt.

This is huge.

The other big must is to shakedown the International Postal Union and get them to admit that China is no longer the poorest class of country, as if they were stuck in 1957, but a developING country that would get far less subsidies.

Yes, the IPU actually subsidizes China so much, that they can airmail packages from Beijing to California cheaper than what it could cost a US business to ship a similar weight package from Sacramento to San Francisco.

Folks really don't know how tenuous China's advantages are, and how much they depend on special treatment.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/trumped-tuesday-february-4-2025-c

Despite dark Democrat predictions of doom and financial apocalypse, the Trump tariffs did not result in a global trade war yesterday. The AP ran the story headlined, “Trump agrees to pause tariffs on Canada and Mexico after they pledge to boost border enforcement.” It was that easy.

The “deal,” if you can call the short stay of execution a deal, involved substantial commitments from both North American countries to deepen their investments in border security in exchange for a one-month delay in the tariffs.

What may really be happening is that, having gotten Mexico and Canada to their first “yes,” Trump plans to continue renegotiating the main trade agreement from his first term, the USMCA, which replaced the previous long-standing agreement, NAFTA. The negotiations have to be framed in terms of emergency border protection and drug enforcement, so Trump can keep using his emergency powers to dicker about the money.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the tariff standoff with China was not resolved yesterday. Not yet. The AP’s related story carried the headline, “China counters with tariffs on US products. It will also investigate Google.” Unless there’s a deal, cell phones, which already cost more than a five-day Caribbean cruise, will soon come with mortgage applications.




But China’s counter-tariffs could perhaps be more properly viewed as “negotiating.” According to the AP, “Trump plans to talk with Chinese President Xi Jinping in the next few days.” So we’ll see.

Democrats had hoped for something more … dramatic to complain about. Not this time. The narrative has shrunken to something like, yeah, but anybody could have done that.

Patrick says

🇺🇸 is seen as non serious nation due to this drama.
China will become superpower, Xi is so much smarter than Trump.

Dollar collapse is on us, We were living beyond means and the bill come due. Trump could have delayed this but accelerated the decay.

Patrick says

Canadian TV did this a few month ago. Before Trump was sworn in. And they nailed it perfectly.

(The below quote will trigger @WookieMan. Beware!)

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

From Canadian TV a couple of months ago.

They called it!

Patrick says

Newsflash: it's possible to transport oil and gas via pipeline going through another country while not selling any of it to the said country.

RWSGFY says

Newsflash: it's possible to transport oil and gas via pipeline going through another country while not selling any of it to the said country.

If it enters the country, it's an import. Period.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

RWSGFY says

Newsflash: it's possible to transport oil and gas via pipeline going through another country while not selling any of it to the said country.

If it enters the country, it's an import. Period.

Not under CUSMA it's not. Or rarher it's not subject to tariffs.

RWSGFY says

Not under CUSMA it's not. Or rarher it's not subject to tariffs.

Prove it. Especially when that oil gets mixed in with ours. <-- gotcha!

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

RWSGFY says

Not under CUSMA it's not. Or rarher it's not subject to tariffs.

Prove it. Especially when that oil gets mixed in with ours. <-- gotcha!

AFAIK that shit (oil, gas, etc) is handled by volume. I.e. they measure how much enters at one side and exits at another. So mixing has nothing to do with it.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

RWSGFY says

Not under CUSMA it's not. Or rarher it's not subject to tariffs.

Prove it. Especially when that oil gets mixed in with ours. <-- gotcha!

Prove it doesn't. Gotcha more.

Any goods passing through are exempt from the custom duties and tariffs under that agreement. Expand on mixing: who mixes what and why?

RWSGFY says

Expand on mixing: who mixes what and why?

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

RWSGFY says

Expand on mixing: who mixes what and why?

I accept your surrender.

RWSGFY says

I accept your surrender.

Giving up because I don't want to bother with your ignorance on oil pipelines isn't 'surrender'.

The EU is poised to offer lower tariffs on US car imports amid threats from Donald Trump that he is ready to ramp up a global trade war.

Bernd Lange, chairman of the international trade committee in the European Parliament, told the FT that Europe was willing to cut its 10pc tariff on American cars to closer to the 2.5pc charged by the US on equivalent imports from Brussels.

He said: “We can try to have a deal before escalating costs and tariffs”.

He added that the EU would offer to buy more liquefied natural gas (LNG) and defence kit from the US “plus also look to lower tariffs for cars”.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

RWSGFY says

I accept your surrender.

Giving up because I don't want to bother with your ignorance on oil pipelines isn't 'surrender'.

Yep, you realized you've fucked up on "mixing" and decided to grab your ball and go home to complain to your mommy about "mean kids who don't know pipelines".

🤡

RWSGFY says

Yep, you realized you've fucked up on "mixing"

Nope. You're the one who fucked up.

Classic example of this is the Keystone Pipeline:

Google AI Overview

In the context of the Keystone pipeline, "oil mixing" refers to the blending of different types of crude oil within the pipeline, particularly the mixing of heavier, more viscous Canadian tar sands oil (diluted bitumen or "dilbit") with lighter conventional crude oil from other sources, like the Bakken formation in North Dakota, as it travels through the pipeline to refineries; this mixing can occur at various points along the pipeline route depending on where different oil sources are added.

Key points about oil mixing in the Keystone pipeline:

Different oil types:
The primary oil type transported through the Keystone pipeline is diluted bitumen (dilbit) from Canadian tar sands, which is often mixed with lighter crude oil from other sources to improve its flowability within the pipeline.

Impact on refining:
The mix of different oil types can affect the refining process at the destination, as refineries need to adjust their operations to handle the varied properties of the blended oil.