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The art of the deal by the former Soviet foreign minister Andrei Gromyko:

- First, demand the maximum, do not meekly ask but demand.

- Second, present ultimatums.

- Third, do not give one inch of ground because there will always be someone in the West that will offer you something maybe half that you did not previously have.

You be the judge which art of the deal works better.

Problem with art if the deal is that after 2-3 times no one takes your ask seriously if they know your strategy.

Trump screams for something, everyone knows he’s bluffing ultimatums and asking for the moon and will settle for less. Art of the deal is better described imo by Daniel Carnegie.

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

Problem with art if the deal is that after 2-3 times no one takes your ask seriously if they know your strategy.

The Gromyko strategy is not a secret and hasn't been for a long time yet the Western idiots fall for it time and time again.

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

Trump screams for something, everyone knows he’s bluffing ultimatums and asking for the moon and will settle for less.

He started with giving away 1/2 of the farm. And was predictably presented with more demands. Then he gave away even more and was again rebuffed and faced with demands for MOAR.

Couldn't even get a fucking ceasefire after a whole year of dancing and it seems like he abandoned this very minimal condition alltogether.

One year later and the art of the deal still not working on Pukin, LOL.

The Kommie Kunt of Kremlin stands on the same maximalist positions and not giving our Donnie an inch. Despite all the dancing, red carpeting, witkoffing and cute surrender monkey noises Donnie didn't get the ceasefire he wanted, didn't get the Pukin-Zel meeting, didn't get the trilateral summit, didn't get any-fucking-thing from the Kommie Kunts.

Well yeah, there are no bargaining chips. What do we have to offer? What do you want Witkoff to offer?

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

Well yeah, there are no bargaining chips. What do we have to offer? What do you want Witkoff to offer?

Apply pressure, duh. They did gave away every carrot from the start, being the fucking realtard masters of negotiatins they are, so it's time for proper sticks. Witkoff is a fucking clown and needs to take a hike. Rubio should take over.

Eric_Holder says

Gromyko strategy

Thanks, had not heard of this.

The Gromyko strategy, named after Soviet Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko, refers to a hardline, uncompromising diplomatic approach designed to exhaust and outlast opponents rather than achieve genuine compromise. Known as “Mr. No” or “Mr. Nyet” in the West, Gromyko used prolonged negotiations, rigid positions, and procedural dominance to stall talks and wear down adversaries.

Key elements of the Gromyko strategy include:

Dragging out discussions with endless technicalities, monologues, and digressions.
Refusing to concede ground, even symbolically, to maintain a position of strength.
Flooding negotiations with false or irrelevant information, forcing the other side to waste time correcting inaccuracies.
Reframing aggression as self-defense and accusing the West of hypocrisy to create moral confusion.
Interpreting Western offers of compromise as signs of weakness, encouraging further demands.

Eric_Holder says

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

Well yeah, there are no bargaining chips. What do we have to offer? What do you want Witkoff to offer?

Apply pressure, duh. They did gave away every carrot from the start, being the fucking realtard masters of negotiatins they are, so it's time for proper sticks. Witkoff is a fucking clown and needs to take a hike. Rubio should take over.

What pressure? Rubio already told us they ran out of things to sanction.

How’s pressure on Iran working? 40 years of pressure, why play that game? It clearly doesn’t work.