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You can round that out to at least 5-600 billion a year (maybe more) out of about 1400 billion total payments making a few numerical assumptions just from the chart that is likely being laundered out of the SS system, not even counting all the other payees who are not qualified to be in the system (illegals, etc.).

SS payments did not start until 1940, so those 1.039 folks who are age 220 to 229 would have been put on the system at age 135 or older. Who signed off on that application?

Be sure this is real and not some planted strawman designed for Trump supporters to latch onto and then get discredited later.

HeadSet says

SS payments did noy start until 1040, so those 1.039 folks who are age 220 to 229 would have been put on the system at age 135 or older. Whi signed off on that application?

My dad in the 70's created a fake person and SS#. While illegal, he never did anything illegal with this fake person. He's dead now so doesn't much matter. It just shows how inept government is. You have to pay in, but who knows, this fake might be part of those stats. Others likely did this.

The way I read the data as well is just people eligible for SS. Look into it for sure, but highly unlikely people are getting checks.

No biggie but I assume you meant 1940? I'm the king of typos.

WookieMan says

I assume you meant 1940?

Fixed, along with another typo.

HeadSet says

WookieMan says

I assume you meant 1940?

Fixed, along with another typo.

No biggie. The F on my keyboard barely works. Missing the 9 and hitting the zero makes sense. Wasn't a knock on you. Was like WTF 1090 and SS? Thought you were talking tax forms.

I was spelling Israel wrong for a good month or so. We don't have editors here unless we say something. So again not a dig.

Ya total up the numbers and it looks like about 398 million.

Our Census Bureau need an FYI. They say we've got 335 million. Who knows how many illegals there are.

How many are real on all of the numbers ???

How much is involved depends on assumptions but it is a LOT. It means that SS has been used as a piggy bank for somebody in the government ranks. The temptation was just too great.

What Musk et alia will discover is the general theme of grafting from the budgets of all the government agencies. It's why the traitors and subversives seem to have such endless fiat money to spend on their depredations. It also follows that money is used to bribe the Congress critters and be bled into black budgets. If it increases the contrived Babylonian debt, so much the better. Vitiate their money while using their own money against them.

It's the usual Satanic Imperative of 'making them pay for their own destruction'. Everything Washington (former DC) does is about graft and laundering, with every virtue signaling fake handle they can muster.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/waterloo-monday-february-17-2025

A full decade ago in 2015, the Social Security Administration’s Inspector General reported that 6.5 million active Social Security numbers were assigned to people aged 112 or older, despite there being only 35 such individuals known to be living worldwide. (Robert Kennedy should be happy to hear about this.) That was alarming enough, but in 2023, an expanded audit looked at SSNs aged 100 and up. This time, 18.9 million active SSNs with birthdates of 1920 or earlier lacked a date of death, meaning they are still active.

But last year (2024), PEW Research reported there are only 80,000 living Americans aged 100+, leaving a shocking discrepancy of 18.8 million mysterious perennial people still receiving social security and possibly disability as well, not to mention generous credits from phantom tax returns, and of course, blue state and local benefits.

And of course, these immortal individuals are probably also voting. Voting Democrat.

The IG’s 2023 follow-up report detailed all the Agency’s terrific progress in resolving the problems identified since the earlier 2015 report. In short, the Social Security Administration’s diligent, alert, and apolitical permanent career civil servants grabbed hold of the IG’s 2015 report with both hands and shoved it into the basement furnace.

The Agency Decided Not to Address These Discrepancies
In response to our 2015 report, SSA considered multiple options, including adding presumed
death information to these Numident records. SSA ultimately decided not to proceed because
the
options would be costly to implement, would be of little benefit to the agency, would
largely duplicate information already available to data exchange consumers and would create
cost for the states and other data exchange partners."16 SSA also believed a regulation would
be required to allow it to add death information to these records, and adding presumed death
information to the Numident would increase the risk of inadvertent release of living individuals'
personal information in the DMF.
We note that, as of January 2023, the full DMF included death information on approximately
137 million deceased numberholders. Over 18 million missing death records represents more
than 10 percent of the records in the full DMF. Therefore, the death information SSA currently
provides Federal benefit-paying agencies--and will begin providing to the Department of the
Treasury's Do Not Pay initiative in December 2023-to help prevent improper payments to
deceased individuals, omit information for more than 1 of every 10 deceased numberholders.

I, for one, thank the gods of bureaucrats for all the hardworking, non-biased, non-partisan federal workers in the Social Security Administration who concluded, probably right after their 3-mimosa-lunch (held by Zoom), that it was just too hard and too expensive to stop 18.9 million fraudulent social security records by putting a presumed date of death into the date field. It’s no use.

It’s not like it might have made any difference in the 2020 election or anything.

Ibid:

I’m sure this will (not) shock you. Both times, 2015 and 2023, the media ignored or downplayed the story. A sane person living in pre-Millennial America might assume that the tireless watchdog media, upon learning about the vast numbers of impossibly fake Social Security accounts and the trillions of dollars of attendant waste and fraud would never give the government a moment’s peace until it was fixed.

But no.

We are not surprised. We are scarred veterans of the post-Millennial period, and we understand the media’s main job is not to expose, but to cover up government incompetence — and especially bury any news at all that might fuel legitimate concerns about election integrity.

Not to mention upholding corporate media’s timeless narrative chestnut that entitlement fraud is rare and overhyped and only a right-wing conspiracy theory. That narrative, after all, is as timeless as the millions of zombified centenarian recipients.

In 2015, apart from one-offs in some conservative media (Breitbart, Washington Times, Fox), I could only find a single AP story about the 6.5 million fraudulent Social Security records aged 112+. In 2023, after the SSA’s OIG published its report finding 19 million digitally breathing people over 100 still “alive” in the system, once again, there was mostly media silence. It should have been a five-alarm fire, but only a handful of “far-right” sites mentioned the news (Federalist, Washington Examiner). The usually reliable New York Post only briefly mentioned the OIG report, but even that was buried in a bigger article about government waste generally.

But CNN, The New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, and the other major outlets? Crickets. My searches came up empty. It just wasn’t important enough to report.

In the latest electrifying development that will also probably not shock you, DOGE —for the last week slogging through the SSA’s septic systems of archaic paper and antique Cobol software — is beginning to report that the OIG canaries in the SSA mineshaft were, if anything, woefully underreporting the problem.

Yesterday, apparent DOGE mouthpiece Elon Musk posted a simple database count of active Social Security Numbers by age range. The dumbfounding chart was a political hydrogen bomb, and it speaks for itself:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1891350795452654076



Apparently, we’ve been operating on the honor system this whole time. We normal, non-civil-service Americans were the only ones who didn’t know. It’s just the latest reason they sneer at us and think we’re stupid and gullible. Those neanderthal conservatives will believe anything. They’re right. We’re the biggest suckers in human history.

I added up the numbers for our cherished, specially abled readers in Portland. Based on Elon’s chart, the total count of active SSNs is 398 million. That means there are +64 million more active SSNs than the entire population of the United States (334 million).

Let me say it again: sixty-four million zombies. Needless to say, it’s totally impossible, at least under our current scientific understanding of human mortality. The diligent, hardworking, apolitical employees in the federal government appear to have diligently preserved a shadow army of dead or nonexistent “Americans” on the books — zombies — with tens of millions of them potentially still receiving benefits, filing tax returns, and “voting” Democrat.

This appears to be a scandal of unfathomable, indescribable, revolutionary proportions. Since I have a very strong feeling that we will not be receiving tax refunds for our cataclysmically misspent entitlements lavished on millions of career criminals, including those inside the government, I say burn it all down.