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2025 Feb 27, 9:20pm   8,961 views  336 comments

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Trump negotiated with the Prime Minister of Canada and the President of Mexico for them to assist in cracking down on Fentanyl entering the US. He postponed the 25% tariffs on goods entering the US from these countries for a month.

In Canada the government with its controlled media, whipped up Canadians into an anti-American frenzy. They pushed not buying US products, booed the US national anthem and even had its hockey team attack the US team. Nothing happened to deter the Fentanyl. Whay do you think is going to happen now that the month is up ????

In Mexico, there was a push for cartel friendly laws and a prohibition on using GMO corn (an American product). What the fuck do you think is going to happen ???

Their respective currencies are going to look like toilet paper and that's just the start.

For China. They didn't do anything about the Fentanyl, so they get an extra 10% tariff with the thought of more to come if they don't get a move on.

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282   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jun 28, 11:44pm  

RC2006 says

This means nothing, they can still undercut us even at 55% and nothing about all the IP they steal. They are playing long game.

Shanghai index is stuck at 10 years ago. All GDP from China is a lie. The public is now hesitant to invest in Ghost Cities, Ghost Neighborhoods, and Hotels and Retail with no customers.

China's strategy of exporting its way to dominance seems to have been running out of steam to begin with; they are desperately trying to avoid becoming a domestic consumption economy and failing.
283   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jun 29, 7:47pm  

Canada dumps their plans for a Digital Services Tax hours after Trump threatens tariff response.
284   Misc   2025 Jun 29, 7:51pm  

AmericanKulakMaximumTrumper says

Canada dumps their plans for a Digital Services Tax hours after Trump threatens tariff response.


Yep, they pulled the tax and whimpered...please no.

The Canadians no longer believe in the TACO moniker, as it could cause unemployment to shoot to 22% in their country.
285   AD   2025 Jun 30, 11:27pm  

China’s manufacturing activity contracts for a third month amid deflation woes

China’s manufacturing activity contracted for a third straight month in June, an official survey showed on Monday, despite Beijing’s stimulus efforts helping to stabilize certain aspects of the industrial sector.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/30/chinas-manufacturing-activity-contracts-for-a-third-month-amid-deflation-woes-.html
286   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jul 2, 1:05pm  

Now THAT is how you set a punji stick trap:


287   Patrick   2025 Jul 4, 1:21pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/sledgehammer-friday-july-4-2025-c


So much for ‘TACO.’ The New York Times ran a story this morning headlined, White House to Start Notifying Countries About Tariffs, Trump Says. The 90 day pause is up. Countries that haven’t made deals yet will find out today what the next phase looks like.

President Trump said early this morning that he is set to resume the tariffs that he initially imposed in April on dozens of countries, before he’d paused them for three months to allow time to negotiate individual deals. The 90 day hiatus runs out this Wednesday.

“So we’re going to start sending letters out to various countries starting tomorrow,” Trump said yesterday, right after the OBBBA passed. “They’ll range from maybe 60 or 70 percent tariffs to 10 and 20 percent tariffs.”

Some countries, like China, Britain, and Vietnam, have already made deals. “Talks with other world leaders,” the Times reported, “have so far yielded little, despite efforts from Japan, Malaysia, India and the European Union.”
288   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jul 6, 8:17pm  




I am pleased to announce that the UNITED STATES TARIFF Letters, and/or Deals, with various Countries from around the World, will be delivered starting 12:00 P.M. (Eastern), Monday, July 7th. Thank you for your attention to this matter! DONALD J. TRUMP, President of The United States of America.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114809528606729733
289   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jul 7, 9:38pm  

Trump publishes Tariff letters against many countries, from Laos to South America, Thailand to Bosnia:

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114813877378281211
290   Patrick   2025 Jul 11, 9:52pm  

“For years now, the U.S. political establishment has congratulated itself for helping to lift half a billion Chinese peasants out of poverty — in exchange for the impoverishment of the American middle class.”

—Lee Smith, The Normal President

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/normal-president-donald-trump-iran
291   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jul 12, 8:02am  




Economists are just astrologers at this point.
293   Patrick   2025 Jul 12, 12:56pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/sky-signs-saturday-july-12-2025-c


Trump said tariffs would generate revenue. He said the U.S. could weaponize its trade imbalance. He said deficits weren’t permanent. He said we could balance the budget despite dire predictions about the budget-busting OBBBA. But the arrogant experts laughed and laughed, the journalists skeptically scoffed, Democrats sneered and scolded, invoking inflation apocalypse, but now —unexpectedly!— the Treasury’s running a surplus. ...

Haha, the New York Times couldn’t bring itself to report the news at all. Instead, it warned that the markets are getting dangerously over-optimistic. We need more pessimism, they say...

Instead of reporting on Trump’s historic, tariff-fueled budget surplus, Eeyore and the New York Times are warning darkly about too much winning. Not collapse— prosperity panic. The new concern is that investors are responding too positively to Trump’s economic wins. That the real problem is: optimism. “This dynamic,” the Times gloomily reported, “is still emblematic of a market that is starting to get carried away with itself.”

“Don’t get too excited,” the Times sniggered.

For years, the expert class smirked —loudly and repeatedly— at the very idea that tariffs could possibly generate any meaningful revenue, let alone contribute to a budget surplus. Their line was consistent: tariffs are taxes on consumers, not tools of statecraft. They claimed tariffs would simply be passed along to U.S. buyers, hurt American manufacturers, and net no real fiscal benefit.

Larry Summers, Paul Krugman, the D.C. think tank crowd, and even a handful of Republican budget hawks, all lined up to dismiss the idea as “economically illiterate,” “19th-century isolationist thinking,” or just “Trumpian delusion.” ...

They wouldn’t listen. They didn’t believe. And now they’re afraid it’s working too well. Oh, corporate media, what would we do for entertainment without you? ...

https://x.com/loganclarkhall/status/1943857444326654220




... Tucker linked tariffs to ‘surprising’ budget surpluses, ‘unexpected’ job gains, and falling prices that defy gloomy tariff predictions. "Japanese automakers announced this week that they are slashing auto prices for imports coming into the United States,” Tucker explained, “because of the tariffs and the money that the tariffs brought into the United States."

Listen to the whole thing. You’ll love it.
294   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jul 12, 2:34pm  

Patrick says


and falling prices


Yup. Tariffs that the exporters don't eat actually cause demand destruction, which is disinflationary.

WHICH the Globalists fucking know and is the real reason they are fighting this as much as they can.
295   Patrick   2025 Jul 12, 4:03pm  

Trump is 100% right to impose these tariffs, and to deport as many illegals as possible.

Both of those actions benefit ordinary Americans yugely.
296   HeadSet   2025 Jul 12, 6:18pm  

MolotovCocktail says

Tariffs that the exporters don't eat actually cause demand destruction, which is disinflationary.

Yep, since the products are already priced at what the market will bear, raising prices will cut sales. Therefore, the importer pays the tariff out of profit. Apple will make a slightly less obscene profit on the iPhones.
297   Patrick   2025 Jul 12, 8:10pm  

I worked with a guy who had a side business importing backpacks from Vietnam. He would pay about $20 and charge about $200.

Even his profits were obscene.
298   Bd6r   2025 Jul 12, 8:23pm  

If tariffs work then stocks have to go down, no? Less profit if companies eat tariffs
299   Patrick   2025 Jul 12, 8:41pm  

Only for companies which produce in China and similar places.

Stocks of companies which produce in the US should do fine, or even go up as a result of less competition.
300   stfu   2025 Jul 13, 3:53am  

Bd6r says

If tariffs work then stocks have to go down, no? Less profit if companies eat tariffs


Intuitively - In the aggregate yes, but individual results will vary greatly. Hard to see how the QQQ's/ mag 7 could be effected by tarriff's in any meaningful way. However, my dividend players (SCHD) are probably gonna lag - just like they've done for the last 20 years.

Also note the same argument vis a vi tariffs was said for inflation - but that hasn't happened yet either.

Still, average investors' choices are either stocks or bonds (I refuse to call gold or crypto investing) and bonds suck.
301   Bd6r   2025 Jul 13, 7:22am  

Patrick says

Only for companies which produce in China and similar places.

Stocks of companies which produce in the US should do fine, or even go up as a result of less competition.

So oil, utilities, most of food, mining should be fine, but not Apple, car manufacturing, etc.
302   Bd6r   2025 Jul 13, 7:26am  

stfu says

Bd6r says


If tariffs work then stocks have to go down, no? Less profit if companies eat tariffs


Intuitively - In the aggregate yes, but individual results will vary greatly. Hard to see how the QQQ's/ mag 7 could be effected by tarriff's in any meaningful way. However, my dividend players (SCHD) are probably gonna lag - just like they've done for the last 20 years.

Also note the same argument vis a vi tariffs was said for inflation - but that hasn't happened yet either.

Still, average investors' choices are either stocks or bonds (I refuse to call gold or crypto investing) and bonds suck.

Perhaps inflation is not there because profit margins are down. So it is either or, and since customer can not pay more, tariffs eat into company profit margins. Pretty good deal for US as a whole but not for a few companies using slave labor overseas. Interesting though how this will influence stock market- unfortunately my predictive abilities there are low.
304   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jul 22, 10:26pm  

MolotovCocktail says


But...BUT...we wuz told ONLY CONSUMERS PAY TARIFFS!



https://wolfstreet.com/2025/07/22/gm-ate-1-1-billion-in-tariffs-in-q2-will-likely-eat-more-in-q3-shifts-production-to-the-us-to-cut-costs-and-has-cash-left-over-to-waste-on-share-buybacks/


AHEM!....

MolotovCocktail says

Well fucketty fuck fuck FUCK! No shit, Sherlock! The globalists pricks both on and off PatNet arguing with me that this wouldn't be the case are now proven certified morons!

Whaddya fucking know?



305   zzyzzx   2025 Jul 23, 5:21am  

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2025/05/gm-to-increase-production-in-existing-u-s-factories-video/

GM To Increase Production In Existing U.S. Factories

GM is preparing to adjust its U.S. manufacturing volume in response to new auto tariffs implemented by the Trump administration, all without building new U.S. factories.

During a recent interview with CNBC, GM CEO Mary Barra detailed the automaker’s strategy to increase output at existing U.S. plants as part of a broader effort to mitigate the financial impact of the tariffs, which are expected to cost the company between $4 billion and $5 billion.

Barra also addressed vehicle pricing. Despite the expected increase in operational costs, the automaker says it will assume “a pricing environment similar to what it is today,”
306   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2025 Jul 23, 6:46am  

Sorry, I am dyslexic.


307   Bd6r   2025 Jul 23, 10:25am  

Sorry not a fan of silicone
308   WookieMan   2025 Jul 23, 10:27am  

Bd6r says

Sorry not a fan of silicone

I wouldn't be a fan of back surgery. Methinks that's photoshopped though or AI generated.
309   HeadSet   2025 Jul 23, 12:42pm  

Bd6r says

Sorry not a fan of silicone

Yes, but that tiny waist!
Does not look like AI, but like someone used Photoshop to lasso the boobs, expand them and paste them back. Look at the fuzzy edge of the blue material over the left boob.
310   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jul 23, 3:59pm  

Remember, Japan is, for the first time ever, OPENING ITS MAKET TO THE USA, even to cars, SUV’s, Trucks, -and everything else, even agriculture and RICE, which was always a complete NO, NO. The Open Market Japan may be as big a profit factor as the Tariffs themselves, but was only gotten because of the Tariff Power. They also agreed to buy BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF MILITARY AND OTHER EQUIPMENT, and give us 90% of 550 BILLION DOLLARS - AND MORE!!! MAGA!!!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114902743574618008
311   Fortwaye   2025 Jul 23, 4:53pm  

PanicanDemoralizer says

Remember, Japan is, for the first time ever, OPENING ITS MAKET TO THE USA, even to cars, SUV’s, Trucks, -and everything else, even agriculture and RICE, which was always a complete NO, NO. The Open Market Japan may be as big a profit factor as the Tariffs themselves, but was only gotten because of the Tariff Power. They also agreed to buy BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF MILITARY AND OTHER EQUIPMENT, and give us 90% of 550 BILLION DOLLARS - AND MORE!!! MAGA!!!
https://truthsocial.com/realDonaldTrump/114902743574618008


they’ll rethink it once American products come with gay pride plastered all over.
312   RWSGFY   2025 Jul 23, 5:16pm  

PanicanDemoralizer says

Remember, Japan is, for the first time ever, OPENING ITS MAKET TO THE USA, even to cars, SUV’s, Trucks,


Opening how? There was no tariff on US cars in Japan.
313   PanicanDemoralizer   2025 Jul 23, 5:54pm  

RWSGFY says

PanicanDemoralizer says


Remember, Japan is, for the first time ever, OPENING ITS MAKET TO THE USA, even to cars, SUV’s, Trucks,


Opening how? There was no tariff on US cars in Japan.

There were tariffs and NTTBs on many products, especially Agra.
314   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jul 23, 6:45pm  


Remember, Japan is, for the first time ever, OPENING ITS MAKET TO THE USA, even to cars, SUV’s, Trucks, -and everything else, even agriculture and RICE, which was always a complete NO, NO.



315   Eric Holder   2025 Jul 24, 12:10pm  

PanicanDemoralizer says

RWSGFY says

PanicanDemoralizer says

Remember, Japan is, for the first time ever, OPENING ITS MAKET TO THE USA, even to cars, SUV’s, Trucks,

Opening how? There was no tariff on US cars in Japan.

There were tariffs and NTTBs on many products, especially Agra.


But he's talking specifically about cars. These did have 0% on them. Will it be 15% now?
316   stereotomy   2025 Jul 24, 12:32pm  

PanicanDemoralizer says


Remember, Japan is, for the first time ever, OPENING ITS MAKET TO THE USA, even to cars, SUV’s, Trucks, -and everything else, even agriculture and RICE, which was always a complete NO, NO. The Open Market Japan may be as big a profit factor as the Tariffs themselves, but was only gotten because of the Tariff Power. They also agreed to buy BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF MILITARY AND OTHER EQUIPMENT, and give us 90% of 550 BILLION DOLLARS - AND MORE!!! MAGA!!!
https://truthsocial.com/realDonaldTrump/114902743574618008

Hopefully, the same thing won't happen to Japan as it did to Mexico after NAFTA. Campesinos who had worked ancestral fields for centuries to raise unique corn varieties were bankrupted, and a vast swath of the genetic diversity of corn (which was first cultivated by the ancestors of the Mayas) was lost.

Good, artisanal corn, grown for flavor and nutrition, is infinitely superior to the agro-industrial shite that we get in grocery stores. Masa, made with that corn and lye to release nutrients, sustained Mesoamerican civilizations for thousands of years (along with the other two sisters - beans and squash).
317   HeadSet   2025 Jul 24, 1:36pm  

RWSGFY says

There was no tariff on US cars in Japan.

No need. American cars would have to be right hand drive to sell in Japan. Not sure the tooling required to manufacture right hand drive is worth it for that market.
318   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jul 24, 2:02pm  

stereotomy says

Hopefully, the same thing won't happen to Japan as it did to Mexico after NAFTA. Campesinos who had worked ancestral fields for centuries to raise unique corn varieties were bankrupted, and a vast swath of the genetic diversity of corn (which was first cultivated by the ancestors of the Mayas) was lost.

Good, artisanal corn, grown for flavor and nutrition, is infinitely superior to the agro-industrial shite that we get in grocery stores. Masa, made with that corn and lye to release nutrients, sustained Mesoamerican civilizations for thousands of years (along with the other two sisters - beans and squash).


I don't think the Japanese grow/eat any of those crops.
319   RWSGFY   2025 Jul 24, 2:30pm  

HeadSet says


RWSGFY says


There was no tariff on US cars in Japan.

No need. American cars would have to be right hand drive to sell in Japan. Not sure the tooling required to manufacture right hand drive is worth it for that market.



So the Japanese car market won't open for the US manufacturers because they don't want it in the first place? Does Donnie even know he fights an unnecessary and futile fight for unappreciative supposed beneficiaries?

PS. Chrysler makes RHD Jeeps for the US market. They are intended for rural mail carriers.
320   Misc   2025 Jul 27, 10:00am  

Trump is finally dumbing down on who his tariffs benefit. He is proposing to give rebate checks to everyone based on the amount of tariffs collected. He is also proposing an income cap on getting those checks.

This way the mainstream media can't say....but but but inflation...prices are higher but people will get that rebate check to cover the higher price IF and that's a BIG IF they wanna buy that foreign made crap.

Also, this shows clearly that Trump economic policy benefits the lower income folks.

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