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I think Trump is doing a Jerry Springer routine
JD Vance did pull a Steve yesterday.
"STEVE! STEVE! STEVE!"
So Zelensky stated that the 350 billion wasn't enough an scoffed at it, because he as well as we all know that only about 70 billion if that would go to spending on his armed forces, and administrative work for Ukraine. The rest would be chopped up for the EU grifteres, the US grifters and the Zelensky cabal. Trump and Vance caught on at that point
Zelensky said since the war started, $320 billion has been spent on weapons and defense, with $200 billion from the USA and Europe and $120 billion from the Ukraine people.
They should have met in private to agree on some of the details and get a signature or Zelensky.
Where both sides were supposed to put on their best poker face and alligator smiles, and at most hint to any inquiry on any details.
Tenpoundbass says
One of the swamp creatures said today, that Trump now owns Ukraine
Nope. Europe does.
If Lindsey saw Ukraine as viable, he would be the first to bash Trump and Vance yesterday over that ruckus melee meeting.
during his a lot more conciliatory tone on Brett Baier's Fox News show
Trump was ranting nonsense and bullshit; Vance is a little twerp, I don't give a shit what he says about anything.
I otherwise support Trump for other things he does, but this time he was a clown and lived up to the media representation of him.
I would gladly send my $5 grand "Doge refund" to Ukraine to buy missiles to blast that maniac Putin to hell.
Is there a good (short) primer on the Ukraine situation that anyone here can recommend?
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It was going well, until Zelensky went into a Putin rant, and tried to push NAFO propaganda about starving Ukrainian POWs, etc. Trump put up with it.
Zelensky was being a stubborn ass and while it was cool he fought his corner hard, Trump lost his Temper with him a little bit in reaction to a reporter's question (I missed the question as I was in the John).
Telling him he is NOT in a position to dictate anything, that Ukraine was in big trouble, etc.
This is like watching a table of Mafiosos and the Big Don of New York (pun intended) is telling the Little Don of St. Louis what is going to happen. That Big Don is making a Deal with Chicago Don, and the St. Louis family ought to be grateful they're getting anything instead of whacked out.