patrick.net

I'm thinking if they didn't get the 'rare earths' contract (reputedly a non starter since mining Ukraine is cost prohibitive), maybe Trump did get a blackmail tapes exchange, since Auntie Lindsay is now flip flopping more than MI6 toolshed Piers Morgan.

https://t.me/gatewaypunditofficial/63779

Euro demon blood drinkers, coneheads and grandiose bloodline monsters stand behind the KMaf Nazi lawn ornament cokehead addict in his gym suit. Europe is so done.

Yeah, we really care what the rabid, parasitic Euro Cunts think. Let them handle Putin on their own. When the Russian tanks roll into Davos through their Satanic tunnel, the fat Baphomet will sing.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/disgraceful-eus-top-diplomat-calls-new-leader-free/

Victor Davis Hanson
@VDHanson
Ten bad takeaways from the Zelenskyy blow-up

1. Zelenskyy does not grasp—or deliberately ignores—the bitter truth: those with whom he feels most affinity (Western globalists, the American Left, the Europeans) have little power in 2025 to help him. And those with whom he obviously does not like or seeks to embarrass (cf. his Scranton, Penn. campaign-like visit in September 2024) alone have the power to save him. For his own sake, I hope he is not being “briefed” by the Obama-Clinton-Biden gang to confront Trump, given their interests are not really Ukraine’s as they feign.

2. Zelenskyy acts as if his agendas and ours are identical. So, he keeps insisting that he is fighting for us despite our two-ocean-distance that he mocks. We do have many shared interests with Ukraine, but not all by any means: Trump wants to “reset” with Russia and triangulate it against China. He seeks to avoid a 1962 DEFCON 2-like crisis over a proxy showdown in proximity to a nuclear rival. And he sincerely wants to end the deadlocked Stalingrad slaughterhouse for everyone’s sake.

3. The Europeans (and Canada) are now talking loudly of a new muscular antithesis, independent of the U.S. Promises, promises—given that would require Europeans to prune back their social welfare state, frack, use nuclear, stop the green obsessions, and spend 3-5 percent of their GDP on defense. The U.S. does not just pay 16 percent of NATO’s budget but also puts up with asymmetrical tariffs that result in a European Union trade surplus of $160 billion, plays the world cop patrolling sea-lanes and deterring terrorists and rogues states that otherwise might interrupt Europe’s commercial networks abroad, as well as de facto including Europe under a nuclear umbrella of 6,500 nukes.

4. Zelenskyy must know that all of the once deal-stopping issues to peace have been de facto settled: Ukraine is now better armed than most NATO nations, but will not be in NATO; and no president has or will ever supply Ukraine with the armed wherewithal to take back the Donbass and Crimea. So, the only two issues are a) how far will Putin be willing to withdraw to his 2022 borders and b) how will he be deterred? The first is answered by a commercial sector/tripwire, joint Ukrainian-US-Europe resource development corridor in Eastern Ukraine, coupled with a Korea-like DMZ; the second by the fact that Putin unlike his 2008 and 2014 invasions has now lost a million dead and wounded to a Ukraine that will remain thusly armed.

5. What are Zelenskyy’s alternatives without much U.S. help—wait for a return of the Democrats to the White House in four years? Hope for a rearmed Europe? Pray for a Democratic House and a 3rd Vindman-like engineered Trump impeachment? Or swallow his pride, return to the White House, sign the rare-earth minerals deal, invite in the Euros (are they seriously willing to patrol a DMZ?), and hope Trump can warn Putin, as he did successfully between 2017-21, not to dare try it again?

6. If there is a cease fire, a commercial deal, a Euro ground presence, and influx of Western companies into Ukraine, would there be elections? And if so, would Zelenskyy and his party win? And if not, would there be a successor transparent government that would reveal exactly where all the Western financial aid money went?

7. Zelenskyy might see a model in Netanyahu. The Biden Administration was far harder on him than Trump is on Ukraine: suspending arms shipments, demanding cease-fires, prodding for a wartime, bipartisan cabinet, hammering Israel on collateral damage—none of which Westerners have demanded of Zelenskyy. Yet Netanyahu managed a hostile Biden, kept Israel close to its patron, and when visiting was gracious to his host. Netanyahu certainly would never before the global media have interrupted, and berated a host and patron president in the White House.

8. If Ukraine has alienated the U.S. what then is its strategic victory plan? Wait around for more Euros? Hold off an increasingly invigorated Russian military? Cede more territory? What, then, exactly are Zelenskyy’s cards he seems to think are a winning hand?

9. If one views carefully all the 50-minute tape, most of it was going quite well—until Zelenskyy started correcting Vance firstly, and Trump secondly. By Ukraine-splaining to his hosts, and by his gestures, tone, and interruptions, he made it clear that he assumed that Trump was just more of the same compliant, clueless moneybags Biden waxen effigy. And that was naïve for such a supposedly worldly leader.

10. March 2025 is not March 2022, after the heroic saving of Kyiv—but three years and 1.5 million dead and wounded later. Zelenskyy is no longer the international heartthrob with the glamorous entourage. He has postponed elections, outlawed opposition media and parties, suspended habeas corpus and walked out of negotiations when he had an even hand in Spring 2022 and apparently even now when he does not in Spring 2025.

Quo vadis, Volodymyr?
https://x.com/VDHanson/status/1895892571664343159

That's raving drug psychotic coke head moron to you, sir!

LOL!

https://t.me/tribunalsandexecutions/505046

clambo says

Trump was ranting nonsense and bullshit; Vance is a little twerp, I don't give a shit what he says about anything.

I otherwise support Trump for other things he does, but this time he was a clown and lived up to the media representation of him.

I would gladly send my $5 grand "Doge refund" to Ukraine to buy missiles to blast that maniac Putin to hell.

First of all what has russia done to you to cause you to hate Putin? And secondly, how much of your money have you sent Ukraine so far to arm ukraine?

Nothing. And I can’t stand the money to Ukraine. $71k in taxes so I have skin in the game.

Is there a good (short) primer on the Ukraine situation that anyone here can recommend? I've read that the US/Euro was involved in regime change around 2014. I sure can't get any details from Wikipedia about what happened then.

brazil66 says

Is there a good (short) primer on the Ukraine situation that anyone here can recommend?

Friday...

Is there a Dead Pool on when Z will be terminated by his Praetorians? Then, the mother ship that made him think he purloined the monies and has safe harbor and safe passage will simply re-absorb the assets.

Upcoming bestseller:

"The Hillbily Art of No Deal" by DJ Eyeliner

Patrick says

Ronde de Baphomet Catamite Satanic Ritual Abuse buttfuckers. Reliable DPD minions? Where's Justin Castro, or has he been ditched from the club?

"Be as intransigent, adamantly difficult and uncooperative, unreasonable, demanding, loud, insulting, strident and insufferable as possible. Maybe WWIII can still be salvaged. You can do that, can't you?"

Zelenski is a dumbass.

I saw a link yesterday asking if Zelensky already sold the rights to UK, but this Tweet from Caturd seems to confirm it.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

I am now bumping up the odds to 50-50 that the Zelensky thing was staged.

I think it's well over 50% likely that it was staged, especially because of how convenient it was for bumping the failure to release anything new about Epstein out of the news.

Operative against the staged theory is that it could result in Z's suicide dive rather than an act. It's hard to forget the volume of life and death associated with this character.

However, a total act wouldn't be out of character, either.

I strongly suspect that Zelensky is just a minion of Ukrainian mafioso Ihor Kolomoysky.

https://archive.ph/lQgds

The Centrality of Ukrainian Oligarch, Ihor Kolomoysky

The real person who was the benefactor to, and the boss of, Vice President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, at the Ukrainian gas-exploration company Burisma Holdings, was not the person that the American press says was, Mykola Zlochevsky, who had been part of the Ukrainian Government until Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown in February 2014, but it was instead Ihor Kolomoysky (pictured), who was part of the newly installed Ukrainian Government, which the Obama Administration itself had actually just installed in Ukraine (and that phone-conversation appointing Ukraine’s new leader is explained here), in what the head of the “private CIA” firm Stratfor has correctly called “the most blatant coup in history.” ...

One cannot even begin accurately to understand the impeachment proceedings against America’s current President Donald Trump (“Ukrainegate”) unless one first knows and understands accurately what the relationships were between Trump and the current Government of Ukraine, and the role that the Obama Administration had played in forming that Government (installing it), and the role that Hunter Biden had been hired to perform for his actual boss at Burisma, Kolomoysky, soon after Obama (via Obama’s agent, Victoria Nuland) had installed Ukraine’s new Government.

"Et Tu, Auntie Lindsay? No cards? I have fucking cards, Orange Blob Man! Just because you have the handle on Auntie's blackmail now, doesn't mean I don't have world class blackmail, too!"

I do like the idea of putting Auntie Lindsay on the Ukrainian front lines, though.

https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/86053

In addition to Zelensky's conciliatory interview on Fox News with Brett Baier (after the Oval Office meeting), now Zelensky says he's ready to sign the
minerals agreement with the USA

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2025/mar/03/zelensky-says-he-is-ready-to-sign-minerals-deal-and-relations-with-us-will-continue-video

,

https://www.intellinews.com/ukraine-doesn-t-have-any-rare-earth-metals-and-the-strategic-minerals-it-does-have-are-not-worth-trillions-of-dollars-368472/

By Ben Aris in Berlin February 23, 2025
There is currently a lot of confusion over US President Donald Trump’s proposed $500bn deal to gain control over Ukraine’s rare earth metals wealth. The problem is that Ukraine doesn’t have any rare earth minerals; it has a lot of “strategically important metals” like lithium. That is true. But actual rare earth metals? No. Almost none.

At the danger of nitpicking, rare earth metals (REMs) are a group of 17 elements in the periodic table, consisting of the 15 lanthanides (including neodymium, dysprosium, terbium, scandium and yttrium), which are very useful, as they enable the production of sophisticated electronics thanks to the conductivity quirks of their chemical bonds when used in combination with more traditional materials.

But things like lithium and graphite (a form of carbon) – which can be found in abundance in Ukraine – are not included in the REM categorisation. Nevertheless, Ukraine is a treasure trove of these strategically important minerals and metals that are also very important in making modern technology; lithium is crucial to the making of powerful batteries. Ukraine is home to around 20 of the 31 minerals that Europe lists as strategically important, as it doesn’t have significant deposits of its own.

The friend who sent me that link added: "The country will be rebuilt by Blackstone, but rebuilding entire Ukrainian cities wouldn’t go over well with ordinary Americans, so they invented the rare earth minerals scheme."

Patrick says

The friend who sent me that link added: "The country will be rebuilt by Blackstone, but rebuilding entire Ukrainian cities wouldn’t go over well with ordinary Americans, so they invented the rare earth minerals scheme."

There aren't dedicated RE mines. RE metals are in the ore processing byproducts of nickel, copper, platinum, bauxite, iron, phosphate, etc. mines. And the elements are not really rare at all. They are called that because to get to the final, refined pure product involves processing and reprocessing 8 - 12 times. It is energy intensive, time consuming and dirty. That's why 95% of RE laden ores are shipped to China to be refined. They dominate the entire industry.

https://youtu.be/WzAgmP1KIk4?si=-z7qCz5DdqEiRwbp

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

Patrick says

The friend who sent me that link added: "The country will be rebuilt by Blackstone, but rebuilding entire Ukrainian cities wouldn’t go over well with ordinary Americans, so they invented the rare earth minerals scheme."

There aren't dedicated RE mines. RE metals are in the ore processing byproducts of nickel, copper, platinum, etc. mines. And the elements are not really rare at all. They are called that because to get to the final, refined pure product involves processing and reprocessing 8 - 12 times. It is energy intensive and dirty. That's why 95% of RE laden ores are shipped to China to be refined. They dominate the entire industry.

A little PZ here... Tread lightly with what that guy says. He repeats the same thing about everything.

WookieMan says

He repeats the same thing about everything.

No I don't.WookieMan says

lightly with what that guy says.

That would be what you say.

https://nitter.poast.org/amuse/status/1896525568226807989#m

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

WookieMan says

He repeats the same thing about everything.

No I don't.WookieMan says

Sorry you "quote" what you already posted. Forgot about that stupid caveat.

WookieMan says

Sorry you "quote" what you already posted. Forgot about that stupid caveat.

I don't quote everything, either.