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2025 Mar 17, 10:13am   285 views  6 comments

by Tenpoundbass   follow (10)  

Why was Kiev changed to Kyiv? So all my life Kiev has been Kiev. Chicken Kiev anyone?

This is from Google...

The change from "Kiev" to "Kyiv" reflects Ukraine's post-Soviet drive for an independent identity, with "Kyiv" being the Ukrainian-language spelling, while "Kiev" is derived from Russian.

The name "Kiev" is a transliteration of the Russian name for the city, while "Kyiv" is the Ukrainian-language spelling.
Post-Soviet Identity:
After Ukraine gained independence in 1991, the Ukrainian government began changing geographic names to align with the Ukrainian language, rather than Russian.
Legal Mandate:
The Ukrainian government legally mandated the transliteration "Kyiv" in 1995.
Campaign for Recognition:
Ukraine launched a campaign to secure international recognition of the Ukrainian-language spelling of its capital city, known as the "KyivNotKiev" campaign.
Media Shift:
Following the Russo-Ukrainian War in 2014, many Western media outlets began to switch to using "Kyiv" in recognition of the Ukrainian-language spelling.
IATA Switch:
In October 2019, the International Air Transport Association (IATA) switched to using "Kyiv," following the decision of the US Board on Geographic Names.
Political Significance:
Some see the spelling and pronunciation of "Kyiv" as a political statement, a way to distinguish Ukraine from its Soviet past and assert its independent identity.
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Kyiv - Wikipedia
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The best I can tell it was changed after Joe Biden started his Trillion dollar money laundering operation in Ukraine.
These answers above are pure bullshit. As both Russian and Ukraine's alphabet doesn't really distinct the difference between the two as far as the English language goes.

Kiev will always be Kiev to me.

Got any Bullshit you want to put to the smell test?

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1   Tenpoundbass   2025 Mar 17, 10:15am  

Kiev could still be pronounced Keeve and Kyiv can be pronounced Key ive.

This is just more Pluto isn't a planet anymore bullshit.
2   Patrick   2025 Mar 17, 10:41am  

I agree. It's basically a city demanding that you use its weird pronouns just to passive-aggressively prove that you are gullible and that they can make you say whatever they want, by pouting and blathering about "respect".

I'm not going to call the country of Turkey Türkiye, nor am I going to call Bombay Mumbai, nor Burma Myanmar.

And I will keep using AD and BC, and not that CE or BCE bullshit.

And it's still the Old Testament and not the "Hebrew Bible".
3   MolotovCocktail   2025 Mar 17, 11:12am  

Patrick says


I agree. It's basically a city demanding that you use its weird pronouns just to passive-aggressively prove that you are gullible and that they can make you say whatever they want, by pouting and blathering about "respect".

I'm not going to call the country of Turkey Türkiye, nor am I going to call Bombay Mumbai, nor Burma Myanmar.

And I will keep using AD and BC, and not that CE or BCE bullshit.

And it's still the Old Testament and not the "Hebrew Bible".


Better yet:

A fellow GenX coworker and I started using 1980s phrases with each other sort of like the allegorical language used by the Tamarians in the ST:TNG episode 'Darmok'.

Hell, once I used a phrase from that very episode - "Kayshon, His eyes open"

As long as the references had any snowball's chance at being relative to the context at hand, we understood each other 90% of the time, too.

It really threw the Millennials and Zoomers off. One complained to HR.


4   Tenpoundbass   2025 Mar 17, 11:28am  

LOL also known as Chicken Kyiv.
No there's two things wrong with that. Firstly Chicken Breast isn't up to snuff any more due to how they are famed to be a featured dish in a nice restaurant. So you don't see it often but when I do, it's always on the menu as Kiev. I have never seen it as Kyiv. Ironically my buddy went to Cuba last year for the hell of it. He said the only thing to eat there was Pork and Bread, or Spaghetti and Margarine. But from time to time, he did see Chicken Kiev on a menu at one place. But the Cheese was the white Spanish cheese, not Swiss or a gooey cheese like that.

Chicken Kiev used to be one of my favorites back when you could pound chicken breast with a scaloppini hammer and it mush out flat. Now it bounces back and you have filet thin slices to achieve thin Chicken breast. Which makes every classic chicken dish like Kiev, parmesan, empanizado and schnitzel a failed mess. Call it what you want, just don't call me for dinner.

Chicken Kiev
Eastern European stuffed fried chicken dish
Chicken Kiev, also known as chicken Kyiv and chicken à la Kyiv, is a dish made of chicken fillet pounded and rolled around cold butter, then coated with egg and bread crumbs, and either fried or baked. Since fillets are often referred to as suprêmes in professional cookery, the dish is also called "suprême de volaille à la Kiev". Wikipedia


I used to put a couple white grapes in mine. Also put a slice of Black Forest ham and slice of swiss cheese over the filet, and made a cheesy gooey bread dressing I stuffed in it. Rolled it up, then froze it, after I would bread it and fry it still frozen. Just to get a brown crust. Then bake it in the oven. I picked that method up from the head Chef at Streeter's Catering back in the early 80's when I first moved to South Florida. It was one of my first jobs. Those of you that were in South Florida in the 80's might recall Streeter's Catering, right off the southbound off ramp of i95 and Pembroke road.

I have never been served CK in any restaurant or seen it done like that.

I really miss delectable chicken breast.
5   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2025 Mar 17, 12:45pm  

Patrick says


I agree. It's basically a city demanding that you use its weird pronouns just to passive-aggressively prove that you are gullible and that they can make you say whatever they want, by pouting and blathering about "respect".

I'm not going to call the country of Turkey Türkiye, nor am I going to call Bombay Mumbai, nor Burma Myanmar.

And I will keep using AD and BC, and not that CE or BCE bullshit.

And it's still the Old Testament and not the "Hebrew Bible".

110% on all counts.

Also Pluto is a planet. "Clear the orbit" is BS because even Jupiter hasn't cleared it's orbit.
6   Patrick   2025 Mar 17, 12:54pm  

Making a meme out of this:


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