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Globalism's Latest Shitshow: Their Crap Ain't Selling Anymore


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2025 Apr 5, 4:11pm   925 views  74 comments

by MolotovCocktail   ➕follow (4)   ignore  

The tariffs discussions online and in the media have taken an awesome turn, have you noticed?



Everywhere, not just on PatNet. And the basic gist of it is:

1) The globalists and their Minions are crying Chicken Little because something for realz is happening that is bringing their means of ass raping us to an end or at least seriously limits it.

2) Part of that, they are pushing the same old bullshit 'free trade' narrative.

3) But NOBODY is buying it. Furthermore, even the least articulate/educated ppl even seem to catch some crap the globalist bullshitters post and use it to rip 'em a new one.

My X feed is filled with them. It is awesome to behold.

This one is a tad more on the sophisticated side than what I just described, but is my fav AND IS representive of what I just said:



4) We are even seeing what I call 'mini-manifestos' being posted by ppl -- myself included -- who had bought into the Globalist Bullshit now openly admitting that they were wrong and calling it what it actually is.

Example: https://patrick.net/comment?comment_id=2164721

5) I am seeing this from the Left. From the Right. From ppl I can't stand. From ppl I respect. From ppl I disagree with on certain things but agree on others. From ppl who I would normally wouldn't see on my feeds at all. From ppl not even on any feeds because they aren't online like me.

6) LIKEWISE, I see the bullshit response from ppl I either a) never heard of before or b) ppl I always knew were bought off - like Senator Grassley. The real stupid ones in my view are those like Bill Krystal who is jumping on this bandwagon simply because he hates Trump.

They are only shooting themselves on the foot.

I don't know for sure if the tariffs will work as advertised. I do believe, however, that they will work a lot better than the screaming globalists rant. In fact, I -- and all the aforementioned others -- see that they are actually in fear that they will actually work enough to fuck with their free trade scam.

This thread is to talk about that. The various other tariff dedicated threads have already started doing so. So maybe this is a little late.

But let's see..

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41   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 10, 5:04pm  

MolotovCocktail says







"Iran just wants to be left aloooooonne"
42   Patrick   2025 Apr 13, 7:20pm  

MolotovCocktail says




My wife and I visited Tokyo about 10 years ago. The most striking thing was the incredible number of small factories, really small, like the size of someone's garage. They all seemed family run. Maybe they make parts on spec for the automotive industry.
43   RWSGFY   2025 Apr 23, 5:57am  

WookieMan says


How do you think Musk, Gates and Bezos pay themselves? Against their stocks.


That's how Peloton guy lost $4M in fire sale of his house to cover margin call on his stonks.
44   RWSGFY   2025 Apr 23, 6:06am  

WookieMan says



Like I've said I should have just kept the margin loan of $125/mo on $85k for the house forever.



Margin is not fixed. So whenever it was $125 on $85K (2020-ish?) it's sure as shit at least 3x now.
46   Eric Holder   2025 Apr 25, 2:09pm  

MolotovCocktail says




https://commonplace.org/2025/04/24/why-are-free-traders-so-emotional-about-trade/


It cuts both ways. Some on the BBT side are also emotional about BS like "must make tube socks and wife-beater shirts in the USA" and similarly can't be taken seriously.
47   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 25, 2:29pm  

Eric Holder says

It cuts both ways. Some on the BBT side are also emotional about BS like "must make tube socks and wife-beater shirts in the USA" and similarly can't be taken seriously


Bullshit.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd-shelton/made-in-america/american-made-clothing-brands#socks
48   Eric Holder   2025 Apr 25, 2:35pm  

MolotovCocktail says


Eric Holder says


It cuts both ways. Some on the BBT side are also emotional about BS like "must make tube socks and wife-beater shirts in the USA" and similarly can't be taken seriously


Bullshit.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd-shelton/made-in-america/american-made-clothing-brands#socks



Tangent. Sure some shit is being made here, duh. The emotional fucks on the BBT side say it ALL should be made here RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Which is both impossible and not really necessary.
49   stereotomy   2025 Apr 25, 3:29pm  

Eric Holder says

MolotovCocktail says



Eric Holder says



It cuts both ways. Some on the BBT side are also emotional about BS like "must make tube socks and wife-beater shirts in the USA" and similarly can't be taken seriously


Bullshit.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd-shelton/made-in-america/american-made-clothing-brands#socks




Tangent. Sure some shit is being made here, duh. The emotional fucks on the BBT side say it ALL should be made here RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Which is both impossible and not really necessary.

I don't care about right now. I want my son to be able to get a good job that isn't being stolen by Chindians or reduced to $1 wages by mass rapefugee migrations.

I get it, you don't have children, you've made your pile, pulled up the ladder, and now it's "GET OFF MY LAWN." You'll die in your castle, and that will be it. Some of us are trying to make a future for our children and their families. Excuse us if we try to do so.
50   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 25, 5:05pm  

Eric Holder says

Which is both impossible and not really necessary.


Not impossible.

But is not really necessary.
52   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 26, 10:58pm  

MolotovCocktail says





https://commonplace.org/2025/04/24/why-are-free-traders-so-emotional-about-trade/

First it was we'd keep and expand the higher value added business.
Remember when Clinton and Bush alike propounded that WE would sell High Tech Electronics TO China?
ONE BILLION CUSTOMERS FOR US PRODUCTS IF WE HAVE DAH FREETRADEZ
Then it was it will help democratize China... LOL
Then it was, it's costing jobs, but look at the GDP growth... (CATO around 2003, wish I bookmarked. Classic, Yeah you blew away my old excuse, but...)
After the financial crisis and years of anemic GDP growth and no real wage gains and ever-widening trade and budget deficits... "My magic crystal ball saw into the alternate reality of no MFN with China and America is a blazing ball of hell with cats and dogs raining from the sky. Well, I don't really have a magic ball but that's what I believe in my reality, and we make our own reality."
Now it's like "We can't build factories in less than 10 years and nobody will lend money!" Nevermind China basically bloated up like the kid from Willy Wonka.

When all it ever was, was no enviro laws and Slave / 19th Century Labor Arb
53   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 26, 11:09pm  

What can we do to bring manufacturing back?

We can act like old farts and tell all the children, like Millennial 35-year old and Zoomer 16-year old alike, about Philips TVs and how Woolworth's buttons were fucking made in the USA within our lifetimes. Let them know it was the recent past and when we made our own shit, an Assistant Store manager at the IPA could actually buy Al Bundy's house and it didn't cost $600k on a 50k income.
54   Robert Sproul   2025 Apr 27, 7:22am  

AmericanKulak says

Let them know it was the recent past and when we made our own shit,

It is living memory to me. When I was a boy every single thing, in every single store, was made in the USofA. Clothes, tires, tools, the whole shebang. Then clothes from Korea and baseball gloves from Japan and then Taiwan started to slip in, always based on price never quality. (Exceptions on the margins were cars or cameras from Germany and then Japan) In the 60's stores like Cost Plus opened in cities like S.F. that featured wicker and rattan and various exotic junk 'imported from far-away places'. You had to make a special effort to go buy foreign made crap.
55   HeadSet   2025 Apr 27, 8:23am  

Robert Sproul says

It is living memory to me. When I was a boy every single thing, in every single store, was made in the USofA.

Also a different mentality back then. People not only would pay extra for American made, many would also pay extra for Union made. That changed when the generation came along that would buy a cheaper Japanese TV rather than a Zenith or RCA made locally.
56   mell   2025 Apr 27, 8:43am  

All true but part of it was the fact that importing was very expensive back then, Ocean shipping costs declined by like 50% from the 70s to now (container shipping and operations greatly scaled up), and airfare also got cheaper due to more efficient fuel mixes etc. So it wasn't just companies and citizens taking pride in things made in their own country, they probably would have started mass importing sooner if it would have been financially advantageous back then.
57   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Apr 27, 8:48am  

MolotovCocktail says


Bullshit.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd-shelton/made-in-america/american-made-clothing-brands#socks


Back in the 80s when the rednecks used to park in the back of our school parking lot with rifles mounted in the back window of their trucks the TexMex gangbangers used to wear steel toe redwing boots: https://www.redwingshoes.com/work/mens/safety-toe/supersole-x-02531.html

So they could kick this shit out of people with them.

Then Columbine happened.

I still have pair of steel toed redwings. I hear of something really heavy falls on them your toes are stuck and you're screwed though.
58   mell   2025 Apr 27, 8:51am  

At the end of the day Tariffs, while probably the best tool in the tool chest, are only a temporary solution. Only the public consumer can turn things around for good by stopping with the cheap mass consumerism and buying less, but quality made locally. The amount of cheap shit people, esp. womyn (clothes!) buy is insane, so many hoarders, reduce your wardrobe to 1/10th of real quality items, and raise your kids the same way. I have been planning to give away 50% of the kids toys for a long time now, probably 80%+ made in Chyna. Real change starts in the head of the populace, but Trump is nudging them in the right direction. You should wear a good pair of Jeans for 5 years, so $100+ is totally appropriate, 7 cents per day. Just lay off the $7 daily latte
59   mell   2025 Apr 27, 9:02am  

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

I still have pair of steel toed redwings. I hear of something really heavy falls on them your toes are stuck and you're screwed though

Some Doc Martens have steel toes as well. Still have a pair
60   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Apr 27, 9:03am  

mell says


but quality


People don't even buy quality FOOD if they can save a buck or two. I've been picking up a pack of organic black berries for breakfast that past couple of months and it's mostly stocked with non-organic from mexico. Those fly off of the shelf but the organic sits for a long time and starts to dry out. The store even has a big marketing campaign for the mexican blackberries and if I recall calls them Georgia-Sweets or something.

I get it lately though food prices are a killer for a lot of people. Then again I was a checker at one of these very same stores in the 80s for nearly 3 years and only once did I see food stamps. Like an actual string of stamps and it made a scene. It wasn't my register but the next over and I noticed people all around were staring at the lady.

Now every 3rd person in front of me here in SA uses and EBT card. I don't live in a bad area either.
61   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 27, 9:12am  

mell says

only a temporary solution.


Tell that to the nations that have tariffed our ass for fucking decades.
62   Robert Sproul   2025 Apr 27, 9:21am  

mell says

The amount of cheap shit people, esp. womyn (clothes!) buy is insane, so many hoarders

I spend my weekends at yard/estate sales, picking for resale. Consumerism has turned pathological. Hoarder behavior is kind of the norm, 600 bucks worth of un-needed possessions filling boxes in the garage while 50k cars sit in the driveway exposed to the elements. 'Fast Fashion' is the ultimate expression of this, some clothes are worn just once or twice, and it comes at a huge environmental cost which is of course ignored by the loony-lefty women that are the main participants.
63   mell   2025 Apr 27, 9:27am  

MolotovCocktail says

mell says


only a temporary solution.


Tell that to the nations that have tariffed our ass for fucking decades.

Well they haven't been outdoing the US, so it hasn't been a magic bullet for them. Also many conflate VAT with tariffs which is not. But I agree everything should be roughly reciprocal
64   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Apr 27, 9:31am  

mell says

But I agree everything should be roughly reciprocal


I'm not sure if it's true or not but I've heard/read that whichever country has the global reserve currency will always suffer trade imbalances.
65   Patrick   2025 Apr 27, 10:45am  

Right, the Triffin Dilemma.

If we want the world to use dollars, then we have to buy stuff from foreign countries so that they all have dollars.
66   mell   2025 Apr 27, 10:45am  

Robert Sproul says

mell says


The amount of cheap shit people, esp. womyn (clothes!) buy is insane, so many hoarders

I spend my weekends at yard/estate sales, picking for resale. Consumerism has turned pathological. Hoarder behavior is kind of the norm, 600 bucks worth of un-needed possessions filling boxes in the garage while 50k cars sit in the driveway exposed to the elements. 'Fast Fashion' is the ultimate expression of this, some clothes are worn just once or twice, and it comes at a huge environmental cost which is of course ignored by the loony-lefty women that are the main participants.

Absolutely. Also my oldest finds tossed electronics such as ipads, phones or laptops on the street, briefly cleans them and then sells them online for $15+ just for the spare parts or more if it can be repaired easily. My wardrobe was 1/10th of my kids wardrobe and clothes occasionally 1-2 sizes too big for a while. Yet everyone was happy and a single earner sufficed.
67   mell   2025 Apr 27, 10:47am  

Patrick says

Right, the Triffin Dilemma.

If we want the world to use dollars, then we have to buy stuff from foreign countries so that they all have dollars.

True and a trade deficit is not bad per se. An extreme trade deficit usually is though, with few exceptions
68   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 27, 11:45am  

Patrick says


Right, the Triffin Dilemma.

If we want the world to use dollars, then we have to buy stuff from foreign countries so that they all have dollars.


We are way beyond that. Because there is ~$70T in eurodollar debt, the demand for dollars outside the rest of the world can not be met by us absorbing their imports alone.

And we didn't create the eurodollar system. The rest of the world did.
69   HeadSet   2025 Apr 27, 1:38pm  

Patrick says

If we want the world to use dollars, then we have to buy stuff from foreign countries so that they all have dollars.

Or those countries earn dollars from factories in the US.
70   HeadSet   2025 Apr 27, 1:53pm  

Robert Sproul says

Consumerism has turned pathological.

Not a recent phenomenon. Check out the late 50s Chevys radical model year redesigns - they wanted to make sure everyone knew if you were driving last year's car.


71   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 27, 2:11pm  

Nowadays I can't tell the difference between most SUVs until I look at the logo. They're all the same, right down to the curvature on the sides.

The Outlander looks like the Grand Cherokee etc.
72   HeadSet   2025 Apr 27, 5:18pm  

AmericanKulak says

Nowadays I can't tell the difference between most SUVs until I look at the logo. They're all the same, right down to the curvature on the sides.

The Outlander looks like the Grand Cherokee etc.

Yep, that is because of CAFE. Only so much you can do while keeping the air resistance low.
73   Tenpoundbass   2025 Apr 27, 6:26pm  

MolotovCocktail says

It's offensive as hell.

Oh so you speakie Englie now huh now mother fuckers. It's offensive ass hell when Chinese pokes fun at fattie McFat Ass until you realize it's just propaganda to rape your ass at the check out counter. But as long as the BBC and NYT says our insurance is triple and food bills are quintupled because of Lardo Cowdardo, then it's OK. It's all Propaganda.

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