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Vaccines SIDS And Autism


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2025 Apr 10, 5:31pm   520 views  45 comments

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14   stfu   2025 Apr 11, 3:43am  

I don't believe that any vaccine, at any time in history, has actually worked (looking at you polio) with the possible exception of smallpox.

Having said that, let me play devils advocate on the link to autism. I read an article the other day (sorry I don't have a link) that purports to show a pretty strong casual relationship between the rise in autism and the average age of the father. Apparently our sperm starts to break down and have genetic issues once we are out of our teens. Consider this in context with the average age of fathers in this country increasing from 20 to 30 years old over the last 50 years.

In addition to that, we must consider the bias caused by increased testing and categorization.
15   HeadSet   2025 Apr 11, 8:58am  

stfu says

I read an article the other day (sorry I don't have a link) that purports to show a pretty strong casual relationship between the rise in autism and the average age of the father

If that were true, wouldn't there be a widespread historical effect of the last kid born to larger families to have autism?
16   stereotomy   2025 Apr 11, 9:13am  

HeadSet says

stfu says


I read an article the other day (sorry I don't have a link) that purports to show a pretty strong casual relationship between the rise in autism and the average age of the father

If that were true, wouldn't there be a widespread historical effect of the last kid born to larger families to have autism?

It's the equivalent of "climate change causes myocarditis." Muddying the waters.
17   RWSGFY   2025 Apr 11, 5:57pm  

HeadSet says

stfu says


I read an article the other day (sorry I don't have a link) that purports to show a pretty strong casual relationship between the rise in autism and the average age of the father

If that were true, wouldn't there be a widespread historical effect of the last kid born to larger families to have autism?


Not enough large families anymore for a meaningful data set.
18   stfu   2025 Apr 11, 6:02pm  

HeadSet says

If that were true, wouldn't there be a widespread historical effect of the last kid born to larger families to have autism?

I'm pretty sure that IQ's are generally lower with each subsequent child in the same family (controlling for sex). Can't be true for my family (I'm the youngest).

From Brave search :

Research has shown that there is a slight trend where older siblings tend to have higher IQs compared to their younger siblings. For example, a study involving over 100,000 Norwegian brothers found that first-borns had an IQ 2.3 points higher than their younger brothers on average when they reached the same age.
Another study based on data from 20,000 individuals concluded that birth order does matter when it comes to IQ, with the oldest sibling having a slightly higher IQ than their younger siblings.
However, the difference in IQ scores between siblings is small, and it is likely that the relationships and interactions between siblings have a much bigger influence on their development and future achievements.
25   The_Deplorable   2025 Apr 13, 1:35pm  

Annabelle Lee died 10 hours after receiving the MMR, DTaP, varicella and a Flu shot.



26   WookieMan   2025 Apr 13, 1:41pm  

The_Deplorable says





I think the goalpost has been moved on autism diagnosis. I'm personally not anti vax just covid vax. I've had covid 4 times and it's nothing. I don't get the flu shot. I got all the major ones as a kid and generally don't feel retarded. I honestly think everyone is in some way, shape or form mentally screwed up.

My kid excels at sports but is demented about it. I just spent 5 hours today doing pole vault because our school doesn't have a track but he can compete at other schools. Dad (me) was top 20 nationally in high school at one point. He wants to beat me... I support it, but I think that's more his mom's genetics. I didn't care about sports, was just good at them and was a way to hang out with buddies. Good mentors as coaches as well given my dad was an ass hole.
27   The_Deplorable   2025 Apr 13, 2:47pm  

WookieMan says
"I'm personally not anti vax just covid vax."

You are ignoring the data and the data say that the vaccines for children are
deadly. My take is to abandon all vaccines - all without exception - until they are
proven safe and effective.
30   Patrick   2025 Apr 13, 3:00pm  

The_Deplorable says







That was before he became HHS Secretary:

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1831126630225629421
Sep 3, 2024

Now Kennedy is strangely silent about the mRNA death jabs.
31   The_Deplorable   2025 Apr 13, 3:05pm  

Patrick says

"Now Kennedy is strangely silent about the mRNA death jabs."

In my thinking that is because the states are moving against the mRNA death jabs.
32   Patrick   2025 Apr 13, 7:23pm  

@The_Deplorable

Why do the states matter to him though?
33   WookieMan   2025 Apr 13, 7:34pm  

The_Deplorable says

WookieMan says
"I'm personally not anti vax just covid vax."

You are ignoring the data and the data say that the vaccines for children are
deadly. My take is to abandon all vaccines - all without exception - until they are
proven safe and effective.

I go off what I experience and see first hand. The majority of childhood vaccines are decades old. It's also impossible to have a controlled study of it. Did mom drink or smoke or do other drugs during pregnancy? I'm sure everyone tells the truth in a study (eye roll).

I've witnessed autism being diagnosed more. I don't know if that's from vaccines, pills/drugs mom too or anything else. I think it's more of a case of diagnosing kids with autism that are probably normal kids. I don't have proof, but that seems to be more logical. Increases medical revenue and treatment where in that field they just steal money from the patient.
34   The_Deplorable   2025 Apr 13, 9:07pm  

Patrick says

"Why do the states matter to him though?"

@ Patrick: I think it has to do with choosing to fight one war at a time in order
not to split his forces and weaken the front. And that is why he said he will
identify the cause of Autism by September.
After that he will go after the mRNA Covid vaccines. In the meantime the
states are moving against the mRNA death jabs.
35   WookieMan   2025 Apr 13, 9:19pm  

The_Deplorable says

Patrick says


"Why do the states matter to him though?"

Patrick: I think it has to do with choosing to fight one war at a time in order
not to split his forces and weaken the front. And that is why he said he will
identify the cause of Autism by September.
After that he will go after the mRNA Covid vaccines. In the meantime the
states are moving against the mRNA death jabs.

Trump won't do anything with vaccines. Or RFK. Wishful thinking. Big Pharma combined is the biggest lobby in the country. Realtors are number one individually, but combine the top 20 lobbies and it's Pharma hands down. https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/top-spenders
37   Patrick   2025 Apr 16, 6:49pm  

https://tdefender.substack.com/p/hhs-secretary-kennedy-autism-research-environmental-causes


‘Genes Do Not Cause Epidemics’: Kennedy Lambastes Media for Denying Autism Epidemic, Vows to Research Environmental Triggers

HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. today called out the National Institutes of Health for spending 10 to 20 times more on research into genetic causes of autism than environmental ones. ...

He called out the National Institutes of Health for spending 10 to 20 times more on research into genetic causes than into environmental ones, and pledged that under his leadership, that will change. He said HHS will make grants available to university scientists and others to research the environmental causes of autism.

“People will know they can research and they can follow the science no matter what it says, without any kind of fear that they’re going to be censored, that they’re going to be gaslighted, that they’re going to be silenced, or that they’re going to be delicensed.”

“This is a preventable disease,” Kennedy said. “We know it’s an environmental exposure. It has to be. Genes do not cause epidemics.”
39   Patrick   2025 Apr 17, 2:52pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/hypersonic-thursday-april-17-2025


Yesterday, CNN ran the story headlined, “In first news conference as HHS secretary, Kennedy says autism is an epidemic in the US.” Specifically, Kennedy persuasively argued that autism must be caused by an “environmental toxin,” and he announced an urgent series of new studies to get to the bottom of it. Media instantly deployed its secret soldiers to discredit him.

To begin, they badly misquoted the new HHS Secretary. For mysterious reasons that historians will surely someday study, the media completely omitted Kennedy’s shocking autism statistics from the most recent CDC and state surveys. The autism rate continues increasing relentlessly, now up to 1 in 12.5 boys in the most recent California survey, which Kennedy called “an unrelenting upward trend.” That should have been the headline.

In other words, the fussy, selective media reporting misrepresented the urgency and specificity of his argument, since the California figure was a key piece of evidence Secretary Kennedy used to challenge the official ‘diagnostic’ narrative. Not only didn’t they headline that appalling statistic —the most recent data— but they whitewashed it altogether.

It gets worse.

Media also misdescribed Kennedy’s focus. He wasn’t talking about kids with quirks or trouble reading social cues, euphemistically labeled “neurodivergent.” Those are the fortunate ones. Kennedy was laser-focused on the left-behind: “these are kids who will never pay taxes. They’ll never hold a job. They’ll never play baseball. They’ll never write a poem. They’ll never go out on a date. Many of them will never use a toilet unassisted,” he explained.

Autism ‘activists’ focus on the most lightly affected, but the HHS Secretary noted that an astonishing “25% of diagnosed children are nonverbal, non-toilet trained, and exhibit severe symptoms like headbanging and sensory sensitivities.” They certainly can’t advocate for themselves.

Also ignored by reporters, Kennedy made the commonsense point (2:03) that we Gen-Xers and Boomers never encountered these stratospheric numbers of profound autism. “It’s difficult to find any widely prevalent cases of full-blown autism in older generations,” he said, adding, “you can’t find these people in homes— there are no homes for them.” ...

💉 Despite Kennedy’s clear focus on profound autism (e.g., “25% of diagnosed children are nonverbal, non-toilet trained”) and his obvious appeal to parents who feel ignored, as parent Eileen Lamb posted (“those voices are too often ignored”), no corporate media articles quoted any parents or organizations supporting Kennedy’s call for more studies.

There are lots of pro-Kennedy people media could have quoted, and they are easy to find. Groups like the NCSA, which advocate for research into the causes of severe autism, and parents like @fedupmom12 on X—“It’s truly unreal that there are parents of kids with autism who don’t support Kennedy”— were completely AWOL from yesterday’s mainstream coverage. ...

Secretary Kennedy offered reporters an intriguing clue. “There’s a timeline,” he said. “Something happened. In fact, Congress ordered the EPA to tell us what year the autism epidemic began. The EPA scientists came back and said it happened in 1989. So you have to find a toxin that became ubiquitous around that time period and that affected every demographic.”
40   stereotomy   2025 Apr 17, 5:24pm  

Patrick says

Secretary Kennedy offered reporters an intriguing clue. “There’s a timeline,” he said. “Something happened. In fact, Congress ordered the EPA to tell us what year the autism epidemic began. The EPA scientists came back and said it happened in 1989. So you have to find a toxin that became ubiquitous around that time period and that affected every demographic.”

The Congressional act that gave vaccine manufacturers blanket immunity and set up a bullshit "injury fund" was passed in 1986.

These are the dates you need to remember: 1972 - when the value of our money was stolen, 1986 - when the lives of our children became forfeit to pharma profits.

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