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2025 Apr 12, 8:16am   361 views  29 comments

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I like him still, he's a marketer, showman. But his results are not there.

Will release Epstein files.... they just stopped talking about them. probably still "on Pams desk".
End war with Ukraine in 24 hours.... that's going nowhere either.
End wars in Middle East... they were just just bombing some shit there recently, it was leaked and made mess on the news.
Big beautiful tariffs.... already gave up on that, exempt bunch of industries and only left them on some of the imports from China.
Cut spending.... already promising 1 trillion for military and going for "big beautiful spending bill".
Cut deficits... continued resolution continues same spending deficits as under Biden.
Deportations.... so far < 1000 deported. Drop in the bucket of 15 million. Every fast food chain full of illegals, construction, farms, factories hire illegals.
Inflation.... still huge and there, cost of living is damn high.
Bringing back jobs... China for manufacturing, India for replacing white collar and techies, illegals for replacing labor = nothing brought back.
Obamacare repeal... that was promised so long ago, you are forgiven to not remember... still on the books.

I think he's trying, but his results make him look like he is not capable of achieving anything. He's getting nothing done, his trial balloons all worked, but when he scaled it out - nothing worked. Just opinion based on results so far. I can't blame him, if all our oligarchs and government make their money through replacing America and embezzling funds, they aren't going to let one man fix it, not without a fight. Hope we turn this fail around, so far not great.

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1   clambo   2025 Apr 12, 9:39am  

You left out: "Oil prices will be lower."

Oil prices are lower now.
2   Patrick   2025 Apr 12, 9:54am  

The latest inflation rate is about 2.5%, which is low.
3   Patrick   2025 Apr 12, 10:02am  

Fortwaye says


Deportations.... so far < 1000 deported.


It's more than that, but not nearly enough to get rid of all 30 million criminal aliens by the end of his term:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/


U.S. President Donald Trump deported 37,660 people during his first month in office, previously unpublished U.S. Department of Homeland Security data show, far less than the monthly average of 57,000 removals and returns in the last full year of Joe Biden's administration. ...

During Trump’s first three weeks in office, ICE arrested about 14,000 people, border czar Tom Homan said last week. That amounts to 667 per day - twice last year’s average but on pace for a quarter million arrests annually - not millions.


That article sounds like it's contradicting itself though: Trump deported fewer than Biden's average during his first month but arrested twice as as many per day?
4   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 12, 10:07am  

Illegal border crossings are down over 90%.

Deportations are going . The PITA District Judges are now being overturned by higher courts. He's cancelling millions of outdated or improperly granted SSNs. He's requiring illegals to register with the Feds and if they fail, deportation ("Smith Act" - seldom enforced).

125% Tariff on CHYna... paused on everybody else who are falling all over themselves to make deals. Free Trade deal with Argentina. Vietnam in the works - that's the big one as it's the the big alternative to CHYna for outsourcers now.

JFK Files released

Bringing Back Jobs... not in 3 months, c'mon man.

Ukraine... Russia & Ukraine are negotiating. Russia released prisoners

Middle East... Iran & US are talking THIS weekend.

Obamacare Repeal... is all Congress. Roberts said that was a "Tax" so the President can't just stop it with an EO and he was granted no agency over it, unlike tariffs and immigration, by Congress.

Ending DEI - companies are ditching woke like no tomorrow. FBI signed an understanding with Robby Starbuck, Harley-Davidson just canned their CEO, Amazon fired their Kathleen Kennedy who ruined Tolkien.

I'm sure I've forgotten things.

Most of these are big jobs that will take a year to finalize. But I'm very happy with the progress.

America wasn't destroyed in a day, and it definitely won't be fixed in 3 months, or a year, or even 4 years. It'll take a decade.
5   WookieMan   2025 Apr 12, 10:22am  

Fortwaye says


Will release Epstein files.... they just stopped talking about them. probably still "on Pams desk".

There's nothing there. People can keep hoping for it, nothing is going to come of it. Ever. You need proof a crime that was committed. They don't have it beside that Maxwell and Epstein trafficked children and they got arrested. Flying on a persons plane is not a crime and there's no runway on Little St. James.

Fortwaye says


End war with Ukraine in 24 hours.... that's going nowhere either.

He tried and frankly who cares. At least he cut off spending and fraud the Biden's were committing.

Fortwaye says


End wars in Middle East... they were just just bombing some shit there recently, it was leaked and made mess on the news.

If you like to have stuff on the shelf in the store, bombing the Houthis was a good thing. The leak is inconsequential.

Fortwaye says


Big beautiful tariffs.... already gave up on that, exempt bunch of industries and only left them on some of the imports from China.

10% across the board which for more countries is 100% higher than what they were paying. And the pause is 90 days above 10% besides China, which this is all this was about from the word go.

Fortwaye says


Bringing back jobs... China for manufacturing, India for replacing white collar and techies, illegals for replacing labor = nothing brought back.

This will take a year or two. Not 100 days. I'm not sure where your expectation comes from.

Fortwaye says


Obamacare repeal... that was promised so long ago, you are forgiven to not remember... still on the books.

Employers have to give healthcare insurance options. I've never understood how Obamacare influences individual citizens, most of which don't even pay Federal taxes. Why not bitch about car insurance? It's the same concept and everyone has to have it on a liability level.

Fortwaye says


Deportations.... so far < 1000 deported. Drop in the bucket of 15 million. Every fast food chain full of illegals, construction, farms, factories hire illegals.

How many useless IRS agents did we hire? 95K roughly. People need to move around and fill in the gaps. Trump brought the Marines to the border. Stopping the inflow is the number of more importance. Again it will take years to get these people out. Get the worst out first, which is smart. The others will think they're safe because they didn't commit a crime (not illegal immigration which is still a crime) on US soil and they'll start rounding them up. Get rid of the gang bangers and drug dealers. Trump has been adamant that he want Fentanyl out of this country. Busting every illegal is not a reality over the next 5-10 years.
6   ElYorsh   2025 Apr 12, 10:29am  

Fortwaye says

Deportations.... so far < 1000 deported. Drop in the bucket of 15 million. Every fast food chain full of illegals, construction, farms, factories hire illegals.

That number is low in relation to the millions but... It killed the "dream" about wanting to come here and get free stuff. It is also creating self deportations and companies have started to call back the legal workers that had been not offered new jobs. Those new jobs had been given to recent immigrants taking lower pay.
7   RC2006   2025 Apr 12, 10:30am  

Illegals are dropping anchor babies at 1000x faster than deportation. If something isn't done now the country is lost and will probably go into civil wars in the near future. Chinese on visa need to be deported, a large amount of them are part of CCP spy network.

I'm glad Trump is attacking China on economy. But the dems and many reps are captured sellouts once they take power again it will be 10x worse if Trump doesn't get shit done.

The rest you bring up all valid @ FW
8   Ceffer   2025 Apr 12, 10:30am  

I still see all the illegals hanging around Home Depot in Pleasanton waiting for day work. They don't look fazed in the least. However, I really think ICE will be busy for a long time deporting the criminal fifth column illegals before they can touch the worker class.
9   WookieMan   2025 Apr 12, 10:38am  

Ceffer says

However, I really think ICE will be busy for a long time deporting the criminal fifth column illegals before they can touch the worker class.

That was my point in my comment. People expecting thousands being deported a day are lunatics. It might get there, but not out of the gate. You can't just take 100k Ford sedans no one bought and dump them in Mexico.

Deal with criminals first. Tom Homan is a hard ass. You'll see results, but it's not going to be 10M deported by the end of the term. Any that thought that was possible is delusional.

Also if CA would get on board more would be deported overnight. That also includes Chicago so I don't seem biased. We have a huge illegal presence here in the region. You could probably get 1M from these two regions in 4 years pretty easily.
10   Ceffer   2025 Apr 12, 10:39am  

I think things are grinding forward at a reasonable pace. The strategies have to take into account the thousands of spinning plates on poles that make up the economy. Trump can't bring down the spinning plates at cost to give a segment of the population a temporary thrill of shadenfreude. Things are gamed out intensively. The demons know where to hide amongst the technicalities.
I think I would rather have the Epstein files in Trump's hand as a billy club rather than a National Enquirer temporary roller coaster. He may as well use it before reveals nullify it. Everybody already knows who the pervs and blackmailed are, it's conspicuously obvious. Let the bastards twist on it. They will need a lot more drugs anticipating the denouement.

The most important and critical event is overcoming the election fraud and the fecal impaction toilet installed subversives and treasonistas. If that is cured, a lot of the mischief and mayhem will tend to cure itself. After that, they can go plink the treasonistas at leisure with tribunals or whatever.
11   clambo   2025 Apr 12, 12:00pm  

The biggest news I saw recently was that the IRS will provide Homeland Security/ICE the names of a million+ illegal workers who applied for TIN numbers so they could get tax refunds.

The bitch head of IRS resigned in protest. Go fuck yourself honey.

Now ICE can seek out those illegals and give them a ticket back from whence they came.
12   Patrick   2025 Apr 12, 1:08pm  

I am afraid that all these things are true:


13   Tenpoundbass   2025 Apr 12, 1:14pm  

Trump can't do all of those things himself. it's why he has a cabinet for.
Dan Bongino and Kash Patel claim even though we're not seeing results, the wheels of Justice are turning. I guess by that they mean they are doing things by the books, and are investigating tight cases. They will need to deliver, or their careers will be over. But I imagine if they punt Trump's agenda, they can always have a post 47 career, as windbags on MSNBC and CNN boasting how they sandbagged Trump's agenda. We will have to wait and see.

As for the deports remember all of the lawfare Judges not only put a halt on the deports that already happened, but also put the brakes on all of the deports.

If this keeps up, with the activist Judges hamstringing him, and the RINOs in Congress doing dick all about it. Trump will need to make his case to the voters in the midterm elections to primary and remove as many democrat and RINOs as he can get rid of. RFK Jr. needs to start stirring the Democrat pot, and start a Democrat MAGA movement to primary out the commies. Democrats like Bill Maher are ripe to be instigated into forming a "What ever Trump can do we can do better" movement. There should be a Democrat faction that the only thing they don't agree with Trump on, is they would rather have a Donkey represent their party logo than an Elephant. Trump is the world's first "Practicing" Democrat after all.
14   WookieMan   2025 Apr 12, 1:16pm  

Patrick says

I am afraid that all these things are true:




1 - Was never gonna happen. Old news.
2 - Will happen at some point, but who cares? I don't
3 - Didn't take it and won't. People that did are not intelligent. That includes some of my own family members.
4 - "Maybe" 200k illegals will be deported best case. As long as Trump turns the border faucet off, that a bigger win.
5 - Don't want to weaponize the legal system. It will just come back full circle if we fall out of power.
15   Fortwaye   2025 Apr 12, 1:23pm  

WookieMan says

Patrick says


I am afraid that all these things are true:




1 - Was never gonna happen. Old news.
2 - Will happen at some point, but who cares? I don't
3 - Didn't take it and won't. People that did are not intelligent. That includes some of my own family members.
4 - "Maybe" 200k illegals will be deported best case. As long as Trump turns the border faucet off, that a bigger win.
5 - Don't want to weaponize the legal system. It will just come back full circle if we fall out of power.


that translates into status quo, same old bullshit we voted against. more debt, more inflation, more communism, more offshoring industries, crooks are gonna stay in charge.
16   Patrick   2025 Apr 12, 1:38pm  

WookieMan says

Don't want to weaponize the legal system.


As if the Dems hadn't already weaponized it.

They did everything they could to put Trump in jail.
17   WookieMan   2025 Apr 12, 1:40pm  

Disagree. If he just shuts the border off that's a huge win. Which seems like Tom Homan has basically done already. That's a massive win.

Also get over Epstein. Obviously not wholesome at all, but get over anything ever coming from it. That's fact. Go there. I've been 3 times. No one here knows the setup clearly. There will be no convictions.

The border is the only thing Trump can really react on. It doesn't happen in 100 days. He at least cut the flow, just like last time.
18   yawaraf   2025 Apr 12, 1:55pm  

He could also veto any bills that lead to deficit spending.
19   clambo   2025 Apr 12, 2:17pm  

Who still gives a flying fuck about the "Epstein files"? Get a grip for god's sake.
20   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 12, 2:29pm  

WookieMan says

4 - "Maybe" 200k illegals will be deported best case. As long as Trump turns the border faucet off, that a bigger win.

Quite a few will self-deport, esp. once the SSN gets switch off and we get rid of all their shared SSNs. Also the registration, which is already law.
21   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 12, 2:32pm  

clambo says

Who still gives a flying fuck about the "Epstein files"? Get a grip for god's sake.

It'll be like the Kennedy files. There will be no smoking gun. Tnything good was 'lost' years ago if ever written down and it was an intel operation by multiple US & Foreign Intel Agencies.
22   WookieMan   2025 Apr 12, 3:12pm  

AmericanKulak says

clambo says
Who still gives a flying fuck about the "Epstein files"? Get a grip for god's sake.

It'll be like the Kennedy files. There will be no smoking gun. Tnything good was 'lost' years ago if ever written down and it was an intel operation by multiple US & Foreign Intel Agencies.

You need witnesses AND proof they went there. Both are probably on the bottom of the Caribbean Sea. There is no flight log directly to the island or yacht log. Wild goose chase. Would have been done years ago.

I highly doubt there's not one whistle blower in the Fed law enforcement or FBI. There's nothing there. Until you go there you won't have your "ah hah" moment and keep believing something will come of it. It won't.

Set up an escrow and I'll put good money in there for 5 years, interest bearing of course and double my money when you lose. Nothing is happening. That will have given Trump his full term plus some.

Same goes for Fauci and those people. They literally can't be put in jail. Some of you cats are chasing ghosts of justice. It's not happening.
23   Tenpoundbass   2025 Apr 12, 3:37pm  

AmericanKulak says

It'll be like the Kennedy files. There will be no smoking gun.


Kennedy's assassination was a very big fucking deal. Whether it was a hit by the mob, CIA or the Commies, it would not have stopped those not part of the behind the scenes hit, from pursuing the truth. Had there been a smoking gun that definitively linked it to any organization that was strong enough to have been prosecuted. It would have been. The flies were kept top secret, which I think was a huge mistake, because it created distrust and speculation. But in reality, had they been public all along. Every last lead that was investigated would have been made into a damning sensationalized made for TV or big screen movie. Which it really didn't stop anyway. In all reality, the release of the files proves that they have been leaked to a select few along the way. Like Oliver Stone and Discovery documentary writers.

It could still be speculated that Harvey Oswald was gas lit to do it. But I don't think there were second shooters, grassy knolls, or explosives on the 7th floor.

I think we already know everything we need to know about the Epstein files. it would be nice to know who killed him, or broke him out of the clink and left a doppelganger stiff in his stead.
24   Tenpoundbass   2025 Apr 12, 3:44pm  

And you guys sleep well tonight knowing that the Left's sole purpose to sew doubt and dissention in Trump's supporters is working.
All the harpies will be on cable news tonight gloating how Trump's support is dropping because of chatter like this. Perception is 90% of politics. The rest is bullshit. If CNN can create perception that Trump sucks and isn't getting anything done, then idiots wont even hold the Judicial Coup or the Contemptuous Congress accountable. The voters will send more assholes to Congress to take Trump down. Why the fuck not, the idiots has already made up their minds, that Trump is not delivering because every foreign born Judge the Marxists has padded our judicial system with keeps overstepping their authority and putting "restraining orders" against Trump to do his fucking job. And you Clowns are over here singing 5 part harmonies, are singing their fucking song.
Glory Hallelujah it's music to their ears.
26   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 15, 8:18pm  

Tenpoundbass says

And you guys sleep well tonight knowing that the Left's sole purpose to sew doubt and dissention in Trump's supporters is working.
All the harpies will be on cable news tonight gloating how Trump's support is dropping because of chatter like this. Perception is 90% of politics. The rest is bullshit. If CNN can create perception that Trump sucks and isn't getting anything done, then idiots wont even hold the Judicial Coup or the Contemptuous Congress accountable. The voters will send more assholes to Congress to take Trump down. Why the fuck not, the idiots has already made up their minds, that Trump is not delivering because every foreign born Judge the Marxists has padded our judicial system with keeps overstepping their authority and putting "restraining orders" against Trump to do his fucking job. And you Clowns are over here singing 5 part harmonies, are singing their fucking song.
Glory Hallelujah it's music to their ears.

Correct.

"Whelp, Trump hasn't undone 30+ years of deliberate deindustrialization, wide open borders, CHYna groveling while Russia bashing, and Globaloney in just over 3 months. He sucks."

Also helped by the Quincy Institute. Fortunately Trump was alerted to the #3 intel guy and sacked his ass
27   RC2006   2025 Apr 16, 7:48am  




What is the point of any savings when we are going to just increase military budget? So much for lowering debt. Every sector needs to be cut including the MIC.
28   Eric Holder   2025 Apr 16, 4:06pm  

clambo says

Who still gives a flying fuck about the "Epstein files"?


People who eat crayons in their middle age.
29   Patrick   2025 Apr 26, 1:37pm  

We all know this experimental, emergency-use only jab was a deadly disaster.

And we all want to hear President Trump take action to prevent further death, injury and immune damage.

So, here are three simple, easy, reasonable, moderate things that President Trump can do to help make things better…

First, President Trump can issue an Executive Order removing the Covid vaccine and boosters from the childhood vaccine schedule. Simple. Not extreme. Reasonable, moderate, easy to do.

And the right thing to do. ...

No healthy child in America has ever died from Covid. There is no reason to risk death, myocarditis, heart attacks, strokes, immune disorders, blood clots, or immune damage for a simple virus that won’t kill anyone who is young and healthy.

But a well-known doctor recently announced that over nine million American children have taken the Covid booster because it’s on the childhood vaccine schedule.

This is madness.

Not one of them needed it. Not one of them will benefit in any way. Not one of them was at risk of dying from Covid. But many will have their immune systems damaged, and their lives ruined from the vaccine. Many will die prematurely.

Mr. President, in the words of Ronald Reagan, tear down that childhood vaccine schedule requirement!

Secondly, Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders just signed a law making the miracle drug Ivermectin available without prescription, over the counter, in any pharmacy in Arkansas. Bravo. Brilliant.

President Trump should issue an Executive Order doing the exact same thing nationwide.

Ivermectin is recognized as the “Gold Standard” to treat not only Covid 19, but any virus. It is a miraculous immune booster. It’s been used by hundreds of millions and its safe, with literally no side effects.

Exhibit A. Covid hit one province in India very hard. The government chose not to use the Covid-19 jab. Instead, they gave everyone in this province of 200 million citizens Ivermectin and the vitamins I just listed above. Covid was wiped out in two weeks. Gone. Disappeared. No more death, hospitalizations, or serious illness.

No one EVER needed the Covid jab, or its dangerous and deadly side effects.

Ivermectin and vitamins would have ended the Covid pandemic in weeks, or perhaps days, with little or no death.

But instead of using Ivermectin to end the pandemic, the CDC, FDA, AMA, WHO and our own government conspired to demonize Ivermectin in the media and tried to ban pharmacies from issuing it. They did that because if they admitted Ivermectin worked effectively against Covid-19, Big Pharma could never have gotten experimental, emergency-use authorization for the deadly disastrous Covid jab. And Big Pharma would never have made hundreds of billions of dollars.

They knew Ivermectin worked, but they banned it to make more money. Millions died because of their greed. That’s called fraud and mass murder.

President Trump, with the stroke of a pen, needs to make Ivermectin available without prescription, over the counter, in any pharmacy in America.

Finally, President Trump needs to ask his HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to do the simplest and most transparent thing in the world…

Publicly announce the ingredients in the Covid jab and the side effects each ingredient causes. Then let the American people decide if they ever want a Covid jab again, or if they want their children to get the jab, once they hear the side effects.

We all know what their decision will be, once they hear the facts….

Everyone in America- except the most radical, insane, brainwashed, delusional liberals- will choose to never again let the Covid mRNA jab anywhere near themselves, their children, or anyone they love.

And President Trump will be loved, respected, appreciated and wildly popular for taking these three simple, easy, reasonable, moderate actions.
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