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And now he wants a "SKINNY" BBB bill. Guess what funding and enforcement he wants to claw way back?

"I can't believe we're accumulating so much high levels of debt like a third world country has as we take in tens of millions of turd worlders. It's almost like the two are connected."



Hey, who voted "Aye" in that 2023 Bill to lift the Debt Ceiling for a year and half in Biden's last year of his first term?

AmericanKulak says

"I can't believe we're accumulating so much high levels of debt like a third world country has as we take in tens of millions of turd worlders. It's almost like the two are connected."



Hey, who voted "Aye" in that 2023 Bill to lift the Debt Ceiling for a year and half in Biden's last year of his first term?

$800 billion of $2.2 trillion for Trump's CARES Act went to Paycheck Protection Program.

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Debt ceiling is not a good way to try to regulate debt.

Congress passes spending bills, congress passes taxation bills. Those set the deficit.

Coming back and saying "Yes I voted for the deficit, but I wont vote to authorize the debt that resulted from it" is stupid.

AD says

$800 billion of $2.2 trillion for Trump's CARES Act went to Paycheck Protection Program.

So about 1-2 years of what migrants get in benefits, school, hospital, etc reimbursement costs that wouldn't exist if they were gone.

When Juan falls off a roof, and Pasadena General ER pays for it, the State/Fed is compensating the hospital. The employer and Juan get off scot-free but the cost falls on the taxpayer. Getting rid of Juan and forcing Al's Roofing to hire legally will direct those costs to where they belong, off the taxpayer's shoulder.

And yes, that costs a little money. A fractional amount to the annual non-borrowed revenue of the USA

DeficitHawk says

Coming back and saying "Yes I voted for the deficit, but I wont vote to authorize the debt that resulted from it" is stupid.

30 years of no Wall and inadequate enforcement, that only cost a few billion a year, and yet we have $37T in debt and no wall and tens of millions of illegals.

The cost of a wall and full enforcement is not only fractional to the debt, the cost of the wall and full enforcement is fractional to the annual federal revenue without one borrowed dollar. Furthermore enforcement and deportation greatly reduces the drain on taxation at all levels

The Uniparty already had their spending while nixing the wall/enforcement over fake Cost Concerns.

Let Massie and Rand show their PRINCUHPULS by volunteering to eliminate some Kentucky handouts. TVA?

No cuts without fully funded border enforcement and wall.

(Fortunately the BBB gives us both)

Patrick says

MTG and her ilk are busy insider trading. They want what Pelosi has. 🤡

Not "Don't Defend the Border to Cut the Deficit"

Patrick says

Karen Bass claims everything is under control as riots expand and highways are blocked by 100s of protesters.



Clearly, we were overfunding Border Security all these years. All the few billion we were spending out of about $2T in revenue was just way too much. Wasteful spending that should have been cut long ago. Good thing we never bothered with that wall.

DeficitHawk says

This is my point, and my worry.

Some people are always worried about the wrong things.

Examples, muh Trump is deporting illegal aliens!

Muh BBB is going to cause hyperinflation.

Dude, there is an invasion of illegal aliens, Iran and China are gearing up for world war 3. But yes, let’s “balance The budget” that will show those crazies we mean business!

PeopleUnited says

Dude, there is an invasion of illegal aliens, Iran and China are gearing up for world war 3. But yes, let’s “balance The budget” that will show those crazies we mean business!

Check Rand Paul's tweets from yesterday. While LA is full of immigrant rioters, he's laser focused on the fully funded deportation/wall part of the BBB, which itself is only one part of the budget. He spends tweet after tweet on the finally fully funded border control budget.

He wants the spending cut at least in half. He's doing his crap again about using remote sensors and drones like he did last time.

For 30 years these snakes spent money like water, from endless deployments to Afcrapistan to Transgender Comic Books in Peru, each time blowing off the Wall and more immigration Enforcement as "Fiscally Irresponsible" while they spent a trillion+ on bullshit. With GOP snakes, it's never a good time to fund the border because they don't want immigration controlled.

These same snakes that tell you the debt is now at crisis so we have to not fund actual territorial integrity, will turn around and lecture about how the $15-$20B monthly the tariffs are bringing in are bad and must be stopped ASAP. But I thought the debt was at a crisis point? $200B in new revenue a year has to be cancelled ASAP but the national debt is their top concern simultaneously?

Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Reminder to call your Senators and Congressman and YES on the BBB

If the Kentucky Clowns are so deadset on cuts, let them sell off and eliminate public funding for the TVA entirely. to show their dedication.

Why is Deep State is using Massie and Rand?

Because if they bring out Murkowski and Collins, people will be like "Well if those two RINOs are against it... it MUST be good"

The DS is desperate to stop BBB beefed up Border Control & Deportations. It's KEY to them. Don't fall for it.

I've said it again and again so I'll say it for the upteenth time: The one thing you can depend on Massie and Rand for is stopping all threats to Extreme Hyperimmigration. Both have voted to increase migration and for some crazy budgets. Wide Open Borders and more immigration (inc. H1Bs) is dear to their heart.

If they were so fiscally concerned, they'd not spend most of their time and oxygen complaining about the BBB's Beefed Up Border/Deportation funding. They'd find other things to complain about. They would regrettably endorse Tariffs "For Now".

If you all remember, the Gang of 8 Bill was Amnesty now, vague promises of Border Enforcement later.

The same Senate and House GOPers that voted to spend billions for a high speed rail that can boast maybe 20 miles of completed track after 10 years of construction...

want you to know a few Billion for 100s of miles of border wall is absolutely infeasible and a waste of money.

AmericanKulak says

He wants the spending cut at least in half.

I also want spending cut at least in half.

If that doesn't happen, the government will soon be spending all its money on interest alone.

Patrick says

I also want spending cut at least in half.

Yes. After the border is fully funded for the first time in decades since the primary duty of the US is to defend it's geophysical integrity.

Otherwise, we're just paying off the debt for the Post-Constitutional Empire of Mexicostan - why bother?

Rand can privatize the TVA and raise the difference. Remember, the BBB is just mandatory spending. The discretionary, the big one, is the one to cut to the very bone. That's the next one, not this one.

Also, Rand and Massie must endorse the tariff or be laughed at for insincerity. If we're really so hard up for debt, why do they want to abolish the tariff, the expressly, explicitly Constitutional tax right in the original version?

Let me get this straight: Thomas Massie voted with every Democrat against the BBB because it didn’t include any DOGE spending cuts and raised the debt ceiling — even though he previously voted to raise the debt ceiling under Joe Biden.

Then today, the same Thomas Massie again sided with every Democrat to oppose $9.4 billion in DOGE spending cuts — because the recissions package also included a resolution that makes further spending cuts to BBB, the very thing he claimed he wanted.

So no, it’s not about spending cuts.
It’s about his terminal TDS.
https://x.com/joma_gc/status/1932965431016346047

AmericanKulak says

even though he previously voted to raise the debt ceiling under Joe Biden

@grok

Congressman Thomas Massie has not always voted against raising the debt ceiling. In 2023, he voted for the Limit, Save, Grow Act, which increased the debt ceiling, citing its spending cuts as justification. This was his first such vote, breaking a pattern of opposition. However, in 2025, he voted against H.R. 1, which included a $4 trillion debt ceiling increase, likely due to insufficient fiscal reforms. His general stance is against debt ceiling hikes without significant spending reductions, though the 2023 vote shows he can support them under specific conditions.

AmericanKulak says

After the border is fully funded for the first time in decades since the primary duty of the US is to defend it's geophysical integrity.

Defending the border is very cheap by comparison with everything else the government is spending money on. The BBB could be much smaller along with generously funding border security.

Patrick says

Defending the border is very cheap by comparison

Need to make sure any new hires are "boots on the ground" and not in the back office far away from the border

Hire a new border agent and likely it costs about $150,000 per year per border agent (includes all compensation and overhead associated with that agent like new vehicle assigned to him)

RFK Jr says the Big Beautiful Bill includes a $75 per month Healthcare Program, where you can get a Concierge Doctor, who’s Available 24/7…. NO BILLS. NO INSURANCE CLAIMS!

“It’s going to be like old style healthcare”

• It also includes a “Health Savings Account” which can FULLY PAY for things such as Gym Memberships

• This will also create on-site medical centers by employers, at various workplaces, where workers can get treated for FREE if they choose.
https://t.co/4EbRZiCnA4

Patrick says

even though he previously voted to raise the debt ceiling under Joe Biden

grok

Congressman Thomas Massie has not always voted against raising the debt ceiling. In 2023, he voted for the Limit, Save, Grow Act, which increased the debt ceiling, citing its spending cuts as justification. This was his first such vote, breaking a pattern of opposition. However, in 2025, he voted against H.R. 1, which included a $4 trillion debt ceiling increase, likely due to insufficient fiscal reforms. His general stance is against debt ceiling hikes without significant spending reductions, though the 2023 vote shows he can support them under specific conditions.

Yes, so I'm correct.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/118-2023/h199

So he gave Biden 18 months of a raised debt ceiling AND continued COVID-era massive spending... then turned around and was up Trump's ass before he was even inaugurated. Massie-ive difference in behavior.

As I posted a few weeks ago before the BBB hit the fan, Grok sometimes says somebody votes against something or for something when they did the opposite. It really sucks for checking vote history.

AmericanKulak says

RFK Jr says the Big Beautiful Bill includes a $75 per month Healthcare Program, where you can get a Concierge Doctor, who’s Available 24/7…. NO BILLS. NO INSURANCE CLAIMS!

“It’s going to be like old style healthcare”

• It also includes a “Health Savings Account” which can FULLY PAY for things such as Gym Memberships

That would be amazing. But you know who won’t like it? Insurance companies, even many employers. Tons of people work later in life just to pay health insurance. A ton of people are going to retire immediately if they can get healthcare covered for $75 a month.

PeopleUnited says

A ton of people are going to retire immediately if they can get healthcare covered for $75 a month.

Cost is just part of the problem. The big issue is not enough doctors, nurses, PAs, et all, to service the demand if health care was universally affordable. Any national health coverage better include a provision to train and equip more medical pros. Maybe medical service academies or ROTC like scholarships. Have the graduates serve a 5-year commitment like the military officers where they will be stationed where they are needed.

We really need catastrophic coverage back and get the insurance middlemen the fuck out of health care

HeadSet says

The big issue is not enough doctors, nurses, PAs, et all

I think an even bigger problem is that many if not most chronic diseases and injuries are from poor choices. Smoking, diet, alcohol, drugs, mental illness due to poor spiritual and mental hygiene, lack of exercise, lack of knowledge by both the public and physicians on how to prevent disease, and not enough efforts to do preventive healthcare. People need time and motivation to pursue health and this is almost wholly ignored in our society. We won’t have good healthcare until we tell the truth about what it takes to be healthy.

PeopleUnited says

We won’t have good healthcare until we tell the truth about what it takes to be healthy.

Most people know that smoking and drinking are bad, that exercise is needed and overeating is unhealthy. They want medicine to compensate for bad choices. Case in point - Type 2 diabetes can in the vast majority of cases be cured by losing weight, yet we have dozens of pills available to "treat" it. The tubbos will ditch any health professional who suggests a diet plan and exercise routine and instead seek one who will proscribe the pills.

HeadSet says

PeopleUnited says

We won’t have good healthcare until we tell the truth about what it takes to be healthy.

Most people know that smoking and drinking are bad, that exercise is needed and overeating is unhealthy. They want medicine to compensate for bad choices. Case in point - Type 2 diabetes can in the vast majority of cases be cured by losing weight, yet we have dozens of pills available to "treat" it. The tubbos will ditch any health professional who suggests a diet plan and exercise routine and instead seek one who will proscribe the pills.

Absolutely, type 2 is 100% reversible by lifestyle only. Eat half, double the exercise. Avoid excess sugar.

Of course he does, his EV subsidies aren't funded.

Build Back Better greatly increased the size and spending of government.

Big Beautiful Bill reduces the size and spending of government. It reduces the taxes people pay.

One noticeable difference was Biden was going to add 80000 IRS agents to go after regular Americans. Trump reduced the size of the IRS by 30000.
If you think they were going to go after rich Americans---you'd be wrong.

BBB adds 10,000 ICE/DHS agents, funds the wall finally and completely, absolutely necessary precondition to deport millions.
Keeps the Trump tax cuts.
Increases requirements for Medicaid and benefits.
No Tax on Tips and Overtime.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/06/myth-vs-fact-the-one-big-beautiful-bill/