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Absolutely. Can testify first hand. When I came here to visit, I already looked around for jobs. This was in Tucson. A year before I finally came, the wages were still fairly decent (about 12 $ for a secretary) and then I got a green card, and could get nothing better than 9 for a warehouse job, working 7 days a week at variable hours. By the time so many South-Americans had entered they had eaten up the job market. Even at immigration, the working employees were Mexican, and some barely spoke English! The Caucasian employees were sipping coffee and watering plants in the back (visible through a door with a glass insert when you passed by).

Thanks @Ingrid

Excellent example. You're a legal immigrant and should not have to compete at all with illegal immigrants, ever.

It's pure corruption and nothing else, just a way for business owners to profit at your expense.

And Trump is now openly agreeing to continue that corruption.

Same thing happened many years ago in Belgium. Great hetze and they captured a bunch of Azians doing the cherry harvest, they lived with 10 in one room and got paid close to nothing. Then the farmers complained because they had to pay Belgian workers four times as much. All politicians will finally give in, give up working for their people, because Money wants more Money, not pay decent wages. I remember from years ago, how farmers in CA complained about their harvest, and here in GA too, that they could not afford decent wages. GA is still one of 2 states that pay under the national minimum (7,25). I think all these politicians should not make more than that, and instead of going on holiday, go help these farmers with their harvest (and make sure the farmer, too, is working)

https://slaynews.com/news/immigrant-voters-dump-democrats-republican-immigration-policies-major-polling-shift/

In a political realignment that would have been unthinkable just a few years ago, immigrants to the United States are now siding with Republicans over Democrats on the issue of immigration.

A seismic 49-point swing reflects a growing backlash to progressive border policies.

The fist was revealed in data from the American National Election Studies (ANES).

ANES is widely considered the gold standard of election surveys.

According to the data, voters born outside the U.S. supported Democrats over Republicans on immigration by a massive 58%-24% margin in 2020.

But in the 2024 election cycle, that gap flipped dramatically, with 45% of immigrant voters saying the GOP would better handle immigration, compared to just 30% who favored Democrats.

This reversal represents one of the largest issue-based voter shifts in modern political history.

However, it’s not coming from the traditional Republican base, but from the very group the Left claims to represent: immigrants themselves.

Has anyone asked college age students / adults how much they would expect to be paid to harvest crops? Is there a poll?

next up ... visas - foreign workers hired by companies -- the # of visas granted needs to be drastically cut!

It's very easy to find out how much they need to be paid. Just deport all the criminal aliens.

Then hire Americans at what it takes to get them to do the work. The wage you have to pay them is the number.

Bring back Bracero Program, they can come and then have to go back to be paid.

NOW: Border Patrol is continuing raids on farm workers in Ventura County, especially Moorpark and Oxnard.

Agents are circling like sharks. Farm workers in areas with heightened activity should check in on each other and take steps to keep safe. Report what you see to us.



https://x.com/UFWupdates/status/1933547428541837541

Opposing tweet:

https://x.com/bill_lipe/status/1933554643650716032

Curioso cómo los "tiburones" dan más miedo desde tu cómoda oficinita—segura, con aire acondicionado y financiada totalmente sacando el 4% de los cheques de los trabajadores que de verdad se rompen la espalda en Moorpark y Oxnard. Interesante cómo tus "ojos en el terreno" siempre son los de alguien más, mientras tú valientemente tuiteas desde atrás de un escritorio, pagando por vistas para que mágicamente siempre tengas exactamente 5 mil lecturas. Debe sentirse bien ganar dinero sembrando pánico. PATÉTICO.

Curious how the "sharks" seem scarier from your cozy little office—safe, air-conditioned, and fully funded by skimming 4% off the paychecks of workers who actually break their backs in Moorpark and Oxnard. Interesting how your "eyes on the ground" are always someone else’s, while you bravely tweet from behind a desk, paying for views to magically always hit exactly 5,000 reads. Must feel good making money by sowing panic. PATHETIC.

Is it true that United Farm Workers gets 4% of the money earned by illegal laborers?

https://www.profstonge.com/p/how-mass-migration-causes-labor-shortages

Across the West the open border left pushes the narrative that we need immigrants to fill labor shortages.

This is false. Obviously false once you work through it.

For starters, there's a world of difference between legal immigrants. Who may vote socialist but at least commit very little crime, start businesses, and tend to move up the economic ladder.

Versus illegal immigrants, who by definition wouldn't have passed our already generous immigration standards.

Illegals commit crime more than natives. More than half go on welfare. And when they do work they undercut native blue-collar and low-skill workers.

Meaning they effectively give us two welfare cases -- their own plus the native born worker who can't get a job.

Indeed, there's reports of low-skill Americans being denied jobs because they don't speak Spanish. As in, they can't communicate with the migrants.

This wouldn’t be tolerated in any country — including the origin countries of illegals. ...

So Americans cannot get a doctor's appointment. Or find a speech pathologist for their child. A veterinarian costs an arm and a leg.

But by gum gardeners are cheap.




Of course, this is why big business likes open borders: They get dirt-cheap unskilled workers. The rest of us have to deal with the new skilled labor shortages.

Meanwhile, of course, blue-collar Americans -- and even blue-collar legal immigrants -- either can't find a job or face minimum wage for back-breaking work.

Incidentally, this is also why high-skilled migrants are an economic benefit: Engineers and doctors get cheap and plentiful, then drive up demand for blue-collars when they go to the grocery store or get a haircut.

In other words, high-skilled migration helps the working class.

Low-skill migration guts the working class. ...

The labor shortage fallacy has been one of open borders’ most successful arguments.

But outside the very highest skilled migrants it is false -- we'd be better off with almost zero immigration.

Instead focusing on Americans. Improving education by replacing government schools. Ending welfare for the able-bodied so they can get on the first rung of the ladder. Making it easier for Americans to create jobs in the first place.

Final point, this isn’t just true for America, it’s true for any rich country, from Canada to France to Japan. High quality migrants are helpful — at least economically. But mass migration is pure cost.

i’m disappointed in Trump backing off

Fortwaye says

i’m disappointed in Trump backing off

Trump is just a speed bump to collapse. I was really hoping he would be able to change the trajectory but all he has done is slow it down. Biden shows that all they need to do is get one puppet in and they can destroy things beyond repair.
Need to be deporting at least 10k a day to make a dent and at least 25-30k a day to get most of them out of here. Trump gives in to much and Republicans are worthless.

For decades farms have "needed workers". They've hired millions of them.
Ever wonder why, since for decades the numbers of farms has not increased by that many?

The reason is that farm work is the first job of illegals; then after they get used to being in the USA illegally, they find ways to work in other jobs.

There are no "jobs Americans won't do"; there are wages and conditions Americans don't like.

Of course, the government pays blacks to stay home and breed bastards, while the males sell drugs or do other mischief.

The actual problem is the government paying the living expenses of the people who would be out there doing all kinds of work that "Americans won't do."

Edit: A few years ago I was in New York City and rode the Staten Island ferry; I saw a bunch of illegals riding on it.
I also saw illegals around here and there in Manhattan.
Restaurants hire them; there are no farms in Manhattan and likely not in Staten Island today.
A reason I like In-n-Out Burger is they don't hire illegals; a reason I dislike Habit Burger is they seem to hire illegals exclusively. I have been to Habit burger in two Florida locations and a California location and they are all illegals in there.

https://oldschoolcounselor.substack.com/p/trump-fatigue

I love the opportunities that have been afforded to us by what I like to call the Trump Intervention. We are in the midst of a Nationalist/Populist revolution to save Western Civilization. The Trump Intervention has nothing to do with Trump the person and everything to do with Trump the anti-establishment symbol. A man with a loud megaphone came along at the right time and fell into a necessary revolution.

But things are going badly.

The MRNA Bioweapon has not been removed from the market and there has been no justice for the COVID Democide. Big Pharma and the biopharmaceutical/military industrial complex are winning. The people are still being maimed and murdered. ...

President Trump has decided to surrender to the desires of the big money bosses from agri-business, hospitality, and big-food, and has thus allowed these corporations to maintain their slave labor systems via illegal immigration from third-world countries. Trump has broken his promise to end all illegal immigration. ...

Trump is surrendering the revolution to the Establishment.

We may need a new revolutionary commander.

RC2006 says

Need to be deporting at least 10k a day to make a dent and at least 25-30k a day to get most of them out of here. Trump gives in to much and Republicans are worthless.

The BBB must pass - that's where the money to deport is. It builds a beefy, permanent deportation infrastructure capable of deporting 10-20M people in the face of what Obama didn't face - deep state sabotage.

Right now we are extremely limited in resources, so concentrating on the violent felons first.

People are putting an unbelievable amount of high and time constrained expectations on Trump and are moving some goalposts.

They don't want the BBB that dramatically increases the deportation budget, but want 10M deported when there is only money for about 1M - 1M if Trump was not hamstrung constantly by federal district court judges intervening in case after case, which Obama didn't have to deal with over his 8 years.

This of course was the purpose of switching to funding Trump skepticism from the Right.