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Promises made, promises broken


               
2025 Jun 22, 6:54am   962 views  43 comments

by Nomograph   follow (1)  

1. End the Ukraine war - broken promise; war continues unabated

2. End the Israel-Gaza war - broken promise; Israel has expanded Middle East aggression with US support

3. No new wars - broken promise; US is now engaged in a hot war with Iran

No big deal tho, since trannies playing softball is the biggest threat to America anyway.


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32   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   @   2025 Jun 22, 4:33pm  

goofus says

Peace through strength in this case would have meant rebuking Israel for their surprise bombing of Iran last week. Not joining in.

Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Trump give 60 days, not endless years of John Kerry shuttling, to negotiate?
33   RayAmerica   @   2025 Jun 22, 4:49pm  

AmericanKulakMaximumTrumper says

Peace through Strength !

War is Peace !
34   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   @   2025 Jun 22, 4:58pm  

RayAmerica says


AmericanKulakMaximumTrumper says


Peace through Strength !

War is Peace !


Si vis pacem, para bellum.
35   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   @   2025 Jun 22, 5:00pm  

Just a few of the many, many times Trump said No Nukes For Iran on the 2024 Campaign Trail with date and A/V proof.



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1934779415256551623.html

I didn't vote for Charles Lindbergh
I didn't vote for Thomas Massie
I voted for Trump

No Nukes For Iran, Peace Through Strength, and No Stupid Wars (not no military action whatsoever which was never promised).

He's been saying it to 2011. It's disingenuous to assert anything else was promised.
36   RayAmerica   @   2025 Jun 22, 5:02pm  

AmericanKulakMaximumTrumper says

Si vis pacem, para bellum


"Beware of the military industrial complex ..." - President Dwight Eisenhower, Farewell Address to the nation.
37   goofus   @   2025 Jun 22, 5:05pm  

AmericanKulakMaximumTrumper says

goofus says


Peace through strength in this case would have meant rebuking Israel for their surprise bombing of Iran last week. Not joining in.

Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Trump give 60 days, not endless years of John Kerry shuttling, to negotiate?


If failed negotiations end with bombing by a renegade proxy, who would enter into talks with this White House? Sends a very bad message.
38   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   @   2025 Jun 22, 5:07pm  

Athenians to Delos, telling them they don't give a shit about neutrality, but to submit and join their fight:

"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Peloponnesian War 5:89

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/History_of_the_Peloponnesian_War/Book_5
39   goofus   @   2025 Jun 22, 5:11pm  

”I didn't vote for Charles Lindbergh
I didn't vote for Thomas Massie
I voted for Trump

No Nukes For Iran, Peace Through Strength, and No Stupid Wars (not no military action whatsoever which was never promised).

He's been saying it to 2011. It's disingenuous to assert anything else was promised.”


Iran doesn’t have nukes. 100 kg at 60% enrichment has alternate explanations. DNI acknowledged they’d suspended their weapons program, blah blah ad nauseam.

That’s the broken promise, that he took Mossad at their word regarding 2 more weeks, when they’ve been saying “weeks/months away” since the 90’s. Proof means more than yellow cake receipts from Nigeria, more than solemn assertions by Colin Powell. It means certainty before embarking on yet more adventurism.
40   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   @   2025 Jun 22, 5:16pm  

goofus says


DNI acknowledged they’d suspended their weapons program,

She has already said she stands by the Presidents decision, and the snippet was that was making the rounds taken out of context.

Here is her WHOLE testimony, where she notes several reasons to be concerned:




Trump has been public record: No Nukes for Iran since at least 2011.

No Nukes for Iran, not "Iran doesn't INTEND to use them"
42   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   @   2025 Jun 22, 5:23pm  

MolotovCocktail says






Is it as good as the 1000s precision missiles so accurate and deadly they can bypass AEGIS and hit every carrier and knock out every reinforced hangar in the Middle East?

Or the 1/3 of Tel Aviv is damaged or destroyed?

I love this guy.

Another one of Tuckers "Really Smart People"
43   goofus   @   2025 Jun 22, 5:29pm  

AmericanKulakMaximumTrumper says


goofus says


DNI acknowledged they’d suspended their weapons program,

She has already said she stands by the Presidents decision, and the snippet was that was making the rounds taken out of context.

Here is her WHOLE testimony, where she notes several reasons to be concerned:




Trump has been public record: No Nukes for Iran since at least 2011.

No Nukes for Iran, not "Iran doesn't INTEND to use them"



LOL I just transcribed the 2 minute testimony on another thread. Nothing was taken out of context. She said, and I quote, “The IC continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon, and that Supreme leader Khameini has not authorized a weapons program that he had suspended in 2003. The IC continues to monitor closely if Tehran decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program.“

Her x-comment did contradict the March testimony, however, in claiming “intelligence” about a bomb in “weeks to months.”

Ten guesses as to who provided that intelligence.

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