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mell says

That may be true but that's on the voters.

It's on the party leadership and the candidate selection/primary process. If the party is so out of touch with voter expectations that they nominate a candidate who is widely seen as a joke, that's not going to result in a win.

"Blame the voters" is a really counterproductive point of view.. in a democracy, the voters are the ground truth. You have to bring candidates that appeal to the voters if you want to win.

There was a wide open gap for a moderate, credible candidate to win. That's the sweet spot the voters wanted a candidate. But none were on the ballot. So they had to choose between a disgraced elderly Cuomo with moderate politics, a charismatic super progressive young candidate, and an old joke of a guy in a beret.
It was surprisingly close between Cuomo and Mamdani.... If a young charismatic moderate without scandal had been there instead of Cuomo or Sliwa, they would have won easily.

Not having that candidate in the race is the fault of the parties and the primary process... Not the general election voters.

NYC has the most unequal income and wealth levels in the world, You have kids living 6 to a rat infested bedroom, while having some other kid attending kindergarten costing $100k per year. The crony capitalists will say their progeny worked their butts off and deserve what they've "earned". They gloss over all the bailouts and systemic privileges received. The have nots have to spend everything they earn just to survive.

That disparity will end. The rich and powerful never give up their privileges willingly. The commies always start out with good intentions, but no matter how much they take from the rich it is never enough and devolves into "how long can we survive eating zoo animals".

DeficitHawk says

Not having that candidate in the race is the fault of the parties and the primary process... Not the general election voters.

Strategically speaking yes. But NYC is still too far lunatic left to vote any sensible candidate in, so I'm ok with Mamdani putting the nail into the coffin. When the NY governor election comes though Republicans by then better have figured out backing their candidate with the best chances to unseat the lunatic corrupt bramlnch covidian hochul. They have a real chance there, NYC mayor was meant to go demonrat anyways, either full retard marxist or old style old money demonrat corruption a la cuomo. 1 : 0 for the marxists

DeficitHawk says

There was a wide open gap for a moderate, credible candidate to win. That's the sweet spot the voters wanted a candidate

Also the democrat party currently doesn't have any moderates at all which stand any chance of winning. Look who they have been voting in, Mamdani is no worse than the lunatic DA in VA or spanberger who can't get enough of talking about aborting children. The Democrat party is in dire need of a reset of JFK/RFK types taking the helm again. That would be common sense moderate.

mell says

But NYC is still too far lunatic left to vote any sensible candidate in

I don't agree.

They voted in Giuliani and Bloomberg, both moderate republicans at the time.

It's a left leaning city for sure. But moderates can still win if any run. Cuomo was more centrist than Mamdani and he got 40% despite being a scandal-ridden creep who was made to resign his last job by these same voters .. it shows you how many of those voters wanted a moderate candidate.

Charismatic moderates can still win. There just weren't any in the race. It's a failure of the candidate selection.

DeficitHawk says

mell says

But NYC is still too far lunatic left to vote any sensible candidate in

I don't agree.

They voted in Giuliani and Bloomberg, both moderate republicans at the time.

It's a left leaning city for sure. But moderates can still win if any run. Cuomo was more centrist than Mamdani and he got 40% despite being a scandal-ridden creep who was made to resign his last job by these same voters .. it shows you how many of those voters wanted a moderate candidate.

Charismatic moderates can still win. There just weren't any in the race. It's a failure of the candidate selection.

I'd argue the old guard rich and connected left of the cuomos or bloombergs has left the building long ago. And to vote in a other Giuliani crime isn't bad enough yet. Free shit, at least for a while until they run out of other people's money, trumps law and order, especially with the have nots. Maybe in 5-10 years again.

I just see things differently. I think voters only get to choose between what is on offer.... If the primaries produce one crazy beret guy, one scandal ridden has-been, and one charismatic young smart person who leans socialist, they will vote for the charismatic young smart person DESPITE the fact he is a socialist... Not because of it.

You seem to think they wanted the socialism. I think the fact Cuomo got 40% even though he is a deeply deeply flawed candidate disproves the notion that most people wanted a socialist. They just accepted the socialist to avoid the other two awful candidates.

I think our primary system coupled with single choice general election is the problem. It produces two candidates that result from an echo chamber of primary voters that may not resonate with the general population. We'd be better off to let more parties and independent candidates run and do ranked choice general elections. Then we could have moderates participate even if the 2 parties produce echo chamber candidates.

Edit: ranked choice needs to be in the general election. I don't think ranked choice within the primaries will fix the problem, since that is still the echo chamber.

https://slaynews.com/news/zohran-mamdani-hires-chief-architect-radical-anti-police-proposal-top-advisor/

New York City’s far-left Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani has just hired the Democratic Socialist strategist behind a controversial anti-police plan that seeks to replace NYPD officers with social workers.

Elle Bisgaard-Church is widely credited with crafting Mamdani’s most controversial public safety proposal.

On Monday, Mamdani tapped Bisgaard-Church to serve as his chief advisor at City Hall. ...

Campaign aides described Bisgaard-Church as the “chief architect” behind Mamdani’s proposal to create a Department of Community Safety.

The sweeping plan will replace police officers with social workers and mental health personnel for certain non-violent 911 calls, particularly in the subway system.

The dangerous proposal has been sharply criticized by law-enforcement groups and public-safety advocates, and would cost approximately $1.1 billion, according to Mamdani’s campaign materials.

The physical safety of New Yorkers is about to be yet more severely endangered.

LOL! It's typical KommieKunt virtue signaling creating unworkable solutions that increase suffering, death and social demoralization. The tunnel demons dance.

The deputization of the criminals continues apace.

Patrick says

Elle Bisgaard-Church is widely credited with crafting Mamdani’s most controversial public safety proposal.

Check out her predictable profile on Wikipedia.

Patrick says

Toledo, Ohio has had women only leadership for several years now. And its a liberal city, sanctuary city too, I think.

Patrick says

Comes across as extremely sexist.

zzyzzx says

Comes across as extremely sexist.

One can arguably ask, where are the civil rights for men? In Toledo Ohio, women were preferentially promoted and treated better than men just because they were women and formed a bond with the top female administrative employees.

Our buddy Benjamin Fulford claims Mamdani is a crypto for a perfect Intel deception trifecta.

gabbar says

One can arguably ask, where are the civil rights for men?

Why would someone ask that? We would have to go on strike as males from EVERYTHING. That's the only solution if real men want change. Stop working. No sex. Don't go out to eat or bars. List is endless. I don't need to ask for rights, just show them life without you.

See what happens to society in two weeks if it were even possible to do. Every female would be BEGGING us to go back to work and screw them. Oh and they wouldn't have food or water after the first week is over because men didn't transport goods and food. No health care. Power goes out.

Women could strike and men would just be like, whatever. Teacher doesn't show to school, okay, you watch your own kids. Nurse doesn't show, a male doctor could fill in. I don't like self checkout, but grocery stores would be fine as the primary jobs are done by men besides cashiers incapable of lifting a case of beer or water.

I don't want rights. I want to prove we run the show outside of carrying a baby for 9 months. Harsh, but technically speaking that's the only useful function of women. And yes, it's possible to find a good life long companion. But that's no different than a dog at that point.

One of many impending insults to the election defrauded public.

Allegations are that the same spy mill that produced Obama produced Mamdami, gay and all.

https://slaynews.com/news/communist-zohran-mamdani-visit-white-house-meet-trump/

Far-left Democratic Socialist and incoming New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani will visit the White House on Friday for a high-profile meeting with President Donald Trump. ...

“Communist Mayor of New York City, Zohran ‘Kwame’ Mamdani, has asked for a meeting,” Trump posted.

“We have agreed that this meeting will take place at the Oval Office on Friday, November 21st.

“Further details to follow!”

Mamdani responded soon after, insisting the sit-down was simply standard procedure.

Sounds like Mamdani is a bit defensive about it.

I don't want Trump to lend him unwarranted credibility, but I am interested in whether either of them will say anything of substance.

Trump: You can just say "Yes"

Gotta wonder if like Fetterman body double, that Mamdani might be some kind of Trump Illuminati switcheroo aka a legend generated but not by the Deep State. Our buddy Benjamin Fulford cites Mamdani as gay and Jewish, not really Muslim. Mamdani is almost getting a Trump endorsement here and not the mockery snub.

That would be in the category of 'Illuminati Wars are interesting' in flipping the script. I guess we'll see.

Ceffer says

Benjamin Fulford cites Mamdani as gay and Jewish,

LOL, a gay Jewish Indian Ugandan? There's a joke in there somewhere

Mamdani origins stories are as fake as a Biden three dollar bill. He's a product of Intel manufacture, probably has the mattress tag on his ass. I guess the question is which Intel assembly line he dropped off of and how and why. Inverting the inversions has to give some occult creds.

After all, he was fake elected above the other sold out Dip Shit State contenders so there's that.

All Kommie election promises are null and void upon seizing power. A back door white hat could seize their psychopathic methodology as well.

Anyway, time will tell. It is hard to tell who on the playing field is what any more.

"I'll be cheering for him" -- Donnie Trump on 11/21/25

RWSGFY says

"I'll be cheering for him" -- Donnie Trump on 11/21/25

BFFs, but MTG is enemy because she forced Epstein list.

Ceffer says

Mamdani origins stories are as fake as a Biden three dollar bill. He's a product of Intel manufacture, probably has the mattress tag on his ass. I guess the question is which Intel assembly line he dropped off of and how and why. Inverting the inversions has to give some occult creds.

He's the son of two Leftists, one a Columbia Prof and the other a minor filmmaker.

Don't know that that means much. It turns out that Kamala is another 'mystery origins' critter with her nominal father being a shape shifter changing names and being folded into academia. The gimlet eyed probably never swallow the story lines of these sudden phenomena who just seem to pop up fully formed from nowheresville.

Barak is Barry and Obama and Sortero and Dunham. Name changing and identity recreation is a common signatory of Intel involvement with cuckoo birding and fake families and names, usually to disguise bloodlines and even Illuminati baby farms generating agents. Identities, sheep dipping, and manufacturing legends are currency.

It would be nice if Mamdani is a white hat 'mirror curse' product. Running an agent as a Kommie Muslim to bypass the LibbyFuck turnstiles would be sweet. Trump's group seem to be pretty good at the occult and Illuminati switcheroos. The mirror curses defang the power grids and feedback loops of the Globalists and Deep State.

WookieMan says

Harsh, but technically speaking that's the only useful function of women.

That is kinda Richard Dawkins kind of statement...and Wookieman kind of statement too.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Trump: You can just say "Yes"

This is a very important lesson, this is why Trump got so far and it's a trait womyn are completely lacking. Men may trade harsh words, maybe even punches with their opponents. But when the only way to better the lives for others than yourself is to work together they can make it happen. zelensky is a womyn, never able to cooperate, not even for the sake of her own people.

Same in private life, womyn hold grudges against others forever, bring the same old lame shit up again and again, sabotage and manipulate in order to never allow progress, even if it hurts others. That's the best reason to bring back the patriarchy. You fight fiercely and take your wins, but in order to maximize your good work and effectiveness you need to cooperate with anyone when necessary.

Men naturally understand this, logic dictates this, womyn just keep stalling butthurt, unable to change and modify their actions. That's why you don't invest in countries or stocks/companies run by womyn, the non-existent exceptions prove this hard rule.

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

RWSGFY says

"I'll be cheering for him" -- Donnie Trump on 11/21/25

BFFs, but MTG is enemy because she forced Epstein list.

Yep.

https://babylonbee.com/news/breaking-hamas-breaches-white-house-perimeter

Patrick says

https://babylonbee.com/news/breaking-hamas-breaches-white-house-perimeter

But honestly how much worse than the corrupt old demonrat guard can he be? Let's see how he does. Lurie is doing ok in SF.

WookieMan says

Harsh, but technically speaking that's the only useful function of women.

Men receive their first flowers at their funeral.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/rippling-corruption-monday-november

“Mamdani still thinks Trump’s a fascist, but he’ll work with him.” Yesterday, I suggested that Trump generously refraining from repeatedly plunging Zohran Mamdani’s head into the Oval Office private toilet accomplished two things: it deprived the left of the public row they desperately wanted, to turn Mamdani into the second coming of Che Guevara, and it actually damaged the diminutive socialist. Exhibit A, straight from far-left Axios, yesterday:

Madani still thinks Trump's a fascist, but he'll work with him
7 hours ago By Avery Lotz

The article —which knew exactly what it was doing— hilariously begins with this sentence: “New York City Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani said in an interview aired Sunday he still believes President Trump is a fascist and a threat to democracy, even as he pledged to work with him to deliver for New Yorkers.”

Put plainly: “The dictator is real, the danger is existential, democracy is hanging by a thread— but I’ll be sending him my budget requests by close of business.”

It’s hard to overstate how catastrophically incoherent, impotent, and silly this makes Mamdani look. Trump didn’t need to body-slam him. Trump just shook his hand and smiled, and Mamdani instantly folded his moral absolutism into a neat little origami weasel.

The left wanted a martyr. Trump gave them a collaborator, a pocket-sized Quisling, politely asking the ‘fascist threat to democracy’ permission to add a few more bike lanes.

Astonishingly, some people think this stuff happens by accident, as if Zohran Mamdani just wandered into the Oval Office, slipped on the rug, and accidentally delivered the most humiliating collaborationist handshake since Quisling tried to guess which fork to use at Hitler’s official banquet.

Yup, it was a brilliant move by Trump to invite Mamdani to the White House, because now it's splitting the far left extremists:

https://slaynews.com/news/bostons-radical-mayor-turns-mamdani-bromance-meeting-trump/

Boston’s Radical Mayor Turns on Mamdani Over ‘Bromance’ Meeting with Trump