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Potential Obergefell (Gay Marriage) re-hearing at SCOTUS


               
2025 Aug 12, 4:51pm   248 views  19 comments

by AmenCorner_AntiPanican   follow (9)  

Any opinions on this?

I think SCOTUS won't completely overturn it, but will pare it down, such as limiting it to the states and not requiring other states to recognize it.

They do have precedence to completely obliterate it, noting that throughout Western History and the Common Law, it's always been between 1 man and 1 woman.

Or end up back at the moderate position of 2008: Gays can have hospital visitation and execute their estates on death if they file some kind of Partnership Contract determined by the States and NOT blue-skied by Federal Fiat.

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1   Patrick   2025 Aug 12, 4:59pm  

Gay marriage makes no sense anyway.

Marriage is a hetero couple standing in front of a crowd and making promises about future children:

Wife: I promise that any children born during this marriage will really be yours.
Husband: I promise to support and protect you and those children, because you're promising in front of everyone that they will really be mine.

I know the next objection will be about infertility, or adoption, but those marriages are still about the husband promising to support and protect the wife.

So marriage is entirely about the sexual differences between men and women.

Homo is a very different situation from hetero. Same sex, not different. This makes gay marriage nonsensical. To call it marriage is very similar to calling men women, or women men, just because that's how they feel one day. A denial of millions of years of biological reality encoded into every cell of every person from the moment of conception.
2   HeadSet   2025 Aug 12, 5:41pm  

Patrick says

Gay marriage makes no sense anyway.

Correct. If any two consenting adults can get married, then you cannot deny a father and daughter or two grown siblings. Such marriages could be for the purpose of simplifying inheritance. Marry your grandson and he gets the house, investments, cars, etc., simple and no probate as a surviving spouse. No inheritance taxes either.
3   MolotovCocktail   2025 Aug 12, 5:56pm  

"We shall see", said the blind man. "We shall see."
4   WookieMan   2025 Aug 12, 6:00pm  

Patrick says

This makes gay marriage nonsensical. To call it marriage is very similar to calling men women, or women men, just because that's how they feel one day.

To be blunt it's gays looking for a money grab given most "marriages" end up in divorce. You're a bartender at a gay club and hook up with a wealthy banker or attorney that's a customer, get married and then run. Supposedly the lesbians are the worst. Find a sugar momma and take their money and property.

Gay men are more cautious especially if they're of means. It's just a relationship, not marriage. Also there's not enough data on divorce amongst gays. I just read something recently that some states don't keep data on it. But we also only have data dating back to Obama years if they kept it.

Gay men are also violent. Not really friends anymore, but a girl I knew had a gay brother that was killed by his lover. Just because they're gay doesn't mean they don't have that aggressiveness and testosterone.

If I was gay I'd actually want it overturned by SCOTUS. Marriage handcuffs you financially if it doesn't work out. I'm not sure why they sought it out in the first place. Man and women marriages as you say Patrick have an asset of a kid involved most of the time. It's not about just husband and wife at that point. Even a man/woman relationship, if you don't want kids, never get married. Gays should not want to get married if they were smart since they don't have kids. A divorce will cost you potentially 50% of your assets, house, etc.

Thing with this whole topic is it will be another orange man bad as people don't understand our court systems if it gets overturned. Trump can make statements on it, but he can't just push a button. This is all judiciary. But idiots will think Trump did it. I believe Trump has always been fine with gay marriage anyway. He's very much a states rights POTUS. If Utah doesn't want gay marriage that's their decision because of a high Mormon population.

This is definitely a states rights issue. I think that's where SCOTUS goes with it.
5   HeadSet   2025 Aug 12, 6:09pm  

WookieMan says

I'm not sure why they sought it out in the first place.

The gays have a desire to make their relationships seen just as "normal" as a hetero couple. Therefore, they want to get married and raise kids like "anyone else." Just like a tranny who wants full acceptance as the sex he isn't.
6   HeadSet   2025 Aug 12, 6:13pm  

WookieMan says

This is definitely a states rights issue. I think that's where SCOTUS goes with it.

Seems likely. The contention will be if states that do not allow gay marriage are forced to accept gay marriages performed in another state. Similar issue as whether a concealed carry permit in Virginia would be effective in state that does not allow concealed carry.
7   Ceffer   2025 Aug 12, 7:07pm  

Gay marriage was and is a subversive prequel to legalizing pedophilia. It is also meant to be a ritualized humiliation and mockery of hetero society.

Gays had achieved all the civil rights they claimed they were denied already (palimony, etc.). 'Gay Marriage' was unnecessary except as a travesty and bird finger at heterosexual tradition (and the usual demoralizing political ploy).
8   Patrick   2025 Aug 12, 7:54pm  

This topic deserves a meme.


9   Patrick   2025 Aug 12, 7:56pm  

HeadSet says

Such marriages could be for the purpose of simplifying inheritance.


Similar bullshit happens with "adoptions". I read about a guy who wanted to visit another guy in prison, but only relatives were allowed to visit.

So he legally adopted the other guy, though they were both the same age.
10   Patrick   2025 Aug 12, 7:58pm  

WookieMan says

Gay men are also violent. Not really friends anymore, but a girl I knew had a gay brother that was killed by his lover.


Yup, happens a lot. Bob Crane who played Hogan on Hogan's Heros was beaten to death by some gay guy he picked up to have sex with.

WookieMan says

This is definitely a states rights issue. I think that's where SCOTUS goes with it.


I agree. If it's not explicitly federal in the Constitution, it's a state issue, just like with normal marriage.
11   Patrick   2025 Aug 12, 8:02pm  

HeadSet says

The gays have a desire to make their relationships seen just as "normal" as a hetero couple. Therefore, they want to get married and raise kids like "anyone else." Just like a tranny who wants full acceptance as the sex he isn't.


Exactly.

As Dave Chappelle put it, “My question is, to what degree do I have to participate in your self-image?”
12   Patrick   2025 Aug 12, 8:07pm  

Ceffer says


Gay marriage was and is a subversive prequel to legalizing pedophilia. It is also meant to be a ritualized humiliation and mockery of hetero society.


Gayness is certainly very closely linked to homo-pedophilia. The majority of gays were molested as boys, which is why they are gay now. Gays are child molesters at far higher rates than heteros.

https://patrick.net/post/1343652/2022-02-13-the-gay-flag-is-also-the-symbol-of

And targeting that Christian baker to force him to bake a gay wedding cake was an attempt at deliberately cruel humiliation.
13   HeadSet   2025 Aug 13, 7:29am  

Patrick says

As Dave Chappelle put it, “My question is, to what degree do I have to participate in your self-image?”

Actually, he said: “My question is, to what degree do I have to participate in your delusion?”
14   WookieMan   2025 Aug 13, 7:49am  

HeadSet says

Actually, he said: “My question is, to what degree do I have to participate in your delusion?”

He's a wordsmith that is funny and can say things that would usually be off limits. He does have the black card in his back pocket.

Also he is tight knit with whites. He goes out to Livingston, MT and visits John Mayer the musician. My buddy has his shop there and sees Chapelle occasionally with Mayer downtown.

Chapelle is a low key guy and likes places like Montana. I think Mayer has a large ranch out there. Weird duo really.
15   Patrick   2025 Aug 13, 2:20pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/supreme-court-called-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-nationwide/


The Supreme Court has been officially called on to reconsider its landmark ruling, which legalized gay marriage nationwide more than a decade ago.

At the center of the case is the Supreme Court’s 2018 ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges.

The long-shot request was made by Kim Davis, the former Kentucky clerk who gained notoriety after she was jailed for refusing marriage licenses in the aftermath of the court’s ruling.

She was sued by a gay couple and ordered to pay $100,000 in emotional damages, plus $260,000 for attorneys’ fees.

“If there ever was a case of exceptional importance,” her lawyer Matthew Staver wrote, “the first individual in the Republic’s history who was jailed for following her religious convictions regarding the historic definition of marriage, this should be it.”

In her petition to the Supreme Court, Davis argues that Obergefell was based on a “legal fiction.”

She asserts that it has eroded the First Amendment’s protections of religious freedom.

“The damage done by Obergefell’s distortion of the Constitution is reason enough to overturn this opinion and reaffirm the rule of law and the proper role of this Court,” the petition says.

The appeal quotes from the conservative justices, who warned at the time of the Obergefell ruling that the court had bypassed a democratic debate to overturn centuries of tradition on marriage and the family.

Chief Justice John Roberts called the decision an “act of will, not legal judgment” that proclaimed a new right with “no basis in the Constitution.”

Justice Samuel Alito, who has continued to criticize the decision, said the post-Obergefell world would be one in which religious believers will “whisper their thoughts in the recesses of their homes.”

“But if they repeat those views in public, they will risk being labeled as bigots and treated as such by governments, employers, and schools,” he wrote.

Davis is urging the Supreme Court to send the issue back to the states, citing the Dobbs decision.

Dobbs ended Roe v. Wade as an example of the justices overturning an erroneous precedent.

Legal analysts are skeptical that the request will go far, however.
16   AmenCorner_AntiPanican   2025 Aug 13, 3:27pm  

If you think Gay Men are violent, just wait until you hear about Lesbians.

I should look it up, but I betcha Lesbian DV 'per capita' is high - despite manipulation and undercharging from political correctness.

I believe Lesbians report the highest DV of all.
17   HeadSet   2025 Aug 14, 2:09pm  

PanicanDemoralizer says

I believe Lesbians report the highest DV of all.

Sell tickets!!
18   Ceffer   2025 Aug 14, 2:48pm  

PanicanDemoralizer says

I believe Lesbians report the highest DV of all.

The odd factoids are that gay men have the lowest divorce rate, then heterosexuals, with lesbians the highest divorce rate. So, the divorce rate is proportional to the female presence in the marriage. Women are harder to stay married to than men.

Men may fuck around, but when they bond, they tend to be more loyal. Women are more narcissistic and less loyal, or their loyalty only tracks their need for support and protection when child bearing. Otherwise, they are more opportunistic.
19   SharkyP   2025 Aug 15, 6:01am  

I had a lesbian primary care Dr. I asked her what hobbies did she have. Her answer: “Fight Club”. I liked her, funny with a great sense of humor. I also had a friend since grade school. I found out he was a closet Tranny. He had a kill list and was always armed to the teeth.

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