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Did Robinson have a shiner when caught?

AD says

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15095195/tyler-robinson-roommate-text-messages-cops-arrest-utah.html

The FBI needs to put out multiple $3 million dollar rewards to find out how deep does this go, and I'm not talking a local AntiFa cult or terrorist cell but tracing it to handlers possibly at non profits like Bend The Ark and Act Blue.

Make it worthwhile to come forward as a credible informant like another Henry Hill and give them the life changing money and witness protection.

And maybe ultimately the financiers like Soros Jr, who even Trump said the DOJ was looking at racketeering charges against Soros Crime Family.

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But only after they finally unspool the Pizzagate. 🤡

Some violent leftist (but I repeat myself) seems to have removed the DNS record of https://www.charliesmurderers.com/

Ah, they moved to https://www.charliekirkdata.org/ for some reason.

Of course, now we have the proliferating 'fog of bullshit' around the incident: the 'new claim' is somebody close up in Charlie's retinue fired the actual shot.

If they ever show a bullet, it will be like JFK, it will wind up intact (ritual humiliation of the people) and have some bizarre theory around it.

We have seen these movies before, same playbook, same head fakes, same laughing jackals making fun in the media world of controlled perceptions and same hall of mirrors.

Sorry, folks, there will be no proper forensic examination. They didn't even close off the scene, and they dismantled it in full view. It is just like Trump's 'assassination', not even token forensics. The egregore has been launched and that is all that matters.

Patrick says

Ah, they moved to https://www.charliekirkdata.org/ for some reason.

Ah, I bet it was legal, with people who openly promote political murder threatening to sue if they are classified under the domain name charliesmurderers.com

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/accelerating-monday-september-15

As expected, the fog of the hot takes phase began to clear over the weekend, and more reliable information emerged. It was not good news for leftists who’d hoped that the assassin of one of the most popular conservatives in America was also a conservative. Of all places, the New York Times broke the story, headlined, “Kirk Shooting Suspect Held ‘Leftist Ideology,’ Utah Governor Says.” ...

On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Utah Governor Spencer Cox described Robinson as first being a “very normal young man,” who was later “radicalized” by the “deep, dark internet.” Governor Cox reported that, after reviewing extensive online evidence provided by his boyfriend, Lance Twiggs, 22 (who is cooperating), Mr. Robinson’s political ideology was “very different” from that of his conservative family.

“There clearly was a leftist ideology with this assassin,” Governor Cox said...

But the UK Daily Mail was much more helpful, and ran several stories yesterday packed with nauseating new information. One was headlined, “Trans 'partner' of Charlie Kirk suspect 'praised Joe Biden' before conservative activist was shot... as link to bizarre 'furry' lifestyle revealed.” Another ran below the headline, “Charlie Kirk's 'killer' made sick jokes just hours after 'shooting activist dead' as his twisted messages emerge.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15096571/Trans-partner-Charlie-Kirk-killer-Tyler-Robinson.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15096261/Charlie-Kirks-killer-sick-jokes-just-hours-shooting-activist-dead.html

Daily Mail???????????

Hey, don't blow the mind control theme: strobing of repetitive but limited resolution video clip bites over and over. Just because there are myriad hi def vids (collected and controlled) doesn't mean you have a right to see them.

There were probably dozens of great, clear videos of the missile that hit the Pentagon on 9/11, but all we get are small leaks of grainy vids.

Charlie agent egrogore has created some blue sky for the Dr. Strange Trump administration. I can hardly wait until he finally gets his full government impaneled.

Breaking down the set and removing all evidence of 'The Method'? Anti-forensics? Where have we seen this before? Illuminati methods redux? Illuminati wars are interesting.

https://rumble.com/v6yzu5q-construction-work-underway-where-charlie-kirk-was-assassinated.html

https://rumble.com/v6yzvd4-5-minutes-after-charlie-was-shot-a-man-is-spotted-removing-the-overhead-vid.html

You are only entitled to grainy shots repeated over and over that serve the agenda.

All sorts of leftist conspiracy theories just to divide support, so nasty. And too many retards there.

Meanwhile a good man is dead.

Apparently there was an entire discord group of Trans, Furries, and/or both that the suspect was a regular member of, and Charlie was discussed.

Discord must release every name in that chat immediately.

This.

This isn't the only Violent Sex Deviant group out there.

WookieMan says

PeopleUnited says

Ceffer, why is it that so much of what you post literally word for word says the exact same thing 2-3 times?

Ditto. I'd use ignore, but only do that for obvious bots. Also, just type a comment yourself. Have a thought yourself. I won't ignore you Ceffer, but it is rather annoying and sometimes makes no sense to be blunt.

Or could it possibly be this principle at play: "If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth."

OK. Robinson is photographed walking up a flight of stairs with the disassembled rifle (with LARGE attached scope) hidden in his pant legs. The photos not only do not show ANY irregularities, but they also show both of his knees very much bent as he advances up the stairs. Next, he shoots Kirk with one shot, takes the time to disassemble the rifle, leaves the screwdriver on the roof AND within only a couple of seconds later he is jumping off of the roof WITHOUT the rifle. Now we are being informed that he stuffed the rifle back inside his pants (again bent knees, no bulges in pants), ASSEMBLES the rifle again (without the screwdriver) wraps it in a towel and hides it in bushes where it is found intact by authorities. What isn't found is the fatal bullet, meaning that there is not ballistic evidentiary link to Robinson's rifle!

The above is only the beginning. What else are the 'authorities' hiding??

Don't worry folks about a replacement for Charlie Kirk. Rumors have it that Ben Shapiro is working to take over Kirk's operation. I can hardly wait.

Where did Robinson go after shooting Kirk?

Patrick says

Where did Robinson go after shooting Kirk?

Yeah, we see video of what looks like him jumping off a two story building onto grass. I cannot see him slinging or holding onto a rifle in that video.

But yeah, where did he go from after jumping off the building ? Definitely some gaps or holes in the storyline.

I wonder if it was in the plan that one of his family members would turn him in, or that was a surprise or shock to Tyler Robinson (and any of his handlers or direct supporters) ?

RayAmerica says

Don't worry folks about a replacement for Charlie Kirk. Rumors have it that Ben Shapiro is working to take over Kirk's operation. I can hardly wait.

Shapiro does pack them in. He gets large audiences at colleges. So we'll see.

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Battle of the narratives. This is why they want the population estupidated.

https://t.me/CIG_telegram/63704

Good grief do any of you pay attention to criminal investigations? The public NEVER EVER is privy to all the details.

1. It taints potential jury pools.

2. Not even the defense attorneys receive all investigative materials. Most importantly they don’t get the investigators notes in entirety. In the broadest sense, all defendants get what is referred to as Brady material(explanation in the picture).

3. The court excludes some stuff in pretrial meaning a jury is not supposed to know about it.

4. Ongoing investigations only have bits and pieces released. This is universal. If a case doesn’t get solved, materials and evidence remain in files and boxes for perpetuity without ever being released.

Absense of public knowledge of certain evidence is not indicative of nefariousness or a conspiracy.

Ceffer says

Battle of the narratives. This is why they want the population estupidated.

https://t.me/CIG_telegram/63704

I mean, the most correct answe right now should be “I don’t know”, which the plurality of respondents selected. AFAIK no definitive showing has been made. Yes one might conclude he was a lefty based on his relationship with a transgender person. But we don’t even definitively know what that is yet.

Patrick says

Discord must release every name in that chat immediately.

This.

Dox the Violent Left. Give them a taste of their own AntiFa medicine.

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Don’t have time right now to listen to the interview but I despise when websites “report” using the tiniest of blurbs. I want to hear the context. Isn’t this exactly why mouth breathing lefties believe Kirk is transphobic and homophobic? Truncated and edited quips have circulated around social media for years and years? I have a coworker that buys into the whole “white supremecists” garbage because she constantly watches social media clips horribly lacking in context. For instance there was a Charlie Kirk vigil in Huntington Beach Sunday night. There was a group of about 15-20 people called Patriot Front. Yet a panoramic view from the pier showed an entirely peaceful crowd of thousands singing and waving American flags. When presented with this, her response was “oh so it’s just like the protests in downtown LA where there were a small group of shit stirrers”

No the two situations are nothing alike. First of all, the Patriot Front members did not commit any crimes at the vigil. Second, if you polled the crowd at the vigil and asked if they support the ideals of Patriot Front, I imagine the number saying yes would be around 5% where the number at the downtown rally supporting the violence is very likely to be 50% or more. Finally, there was zero violence and property destruction at the Huntington Beach vigil. At the downtown ice protests there was massive destruction and defacing of property, multiple police officers were attacked, freeways were closed due to protestors on then, multiple government law enforcement buildings were breached, and parts of the city were effectively shut down.

But one believes they are the same due to social media deceptive posting, which goes both ways. It exists on both sides with the only thing weighing it to worse on the left being that the left PAC’s have a much deeper and broader reach into social media.

It’s all crap. Show the context or don’t bother.

Ceffer says

Patrick says

Discord must release every name in that chat immediately.

This.

You realize that “releasing” names means to law enforcement and not to the public, and you’d have zero direct knowledge of the contents of the release, don’t you?

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Patrick says

Discord must release every name in that chat immediately.

This.

You realize that “releasing” names means to law enforcement and not to the public, and you’d have zero direct knowledge of the contents of the release, don’t you?

They have to be careful as the criminal investigation of Kirk's murder is ongoing. You do not want where a judge throws out a lot of evidence because of sloppy police work.

I suspect a lot of these clever AntiFa soy boys who may have known beforehand of the assassination are going to clam up, and/or come up with clever and pre-planned responses along with having a line of Andrew Weismann's and other Democrat hack lawyers to help them.

What is interesting is the authorities have not said much about Robinson's transgender female roommate and lover other than the roommate showed them all of Robinson's messages and "is cooperating".

When I read "cooperating" that means not just a witness but enough suspicion to qualify them as a suspect.

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Ceffer says

Battle of the narratives. This is why they want the population estupidated.

https://t.me/CIG_telegram/63704

Its typical Left wing psych ops, and that means engaging in "any means necessary" like agent provocateur and perfidy tactics.

Its divide and conquer the Right in order to strengthen the Left, just like the Left now things they won by silencing Kirk who drew large audiences of young voters.

Even Nick Fuentes called it out as a ruse and that Robinson is a poster child for very clever AntiFa soy boys, and likely still a virgin as far as heterosexual sex (with a cis female).

The Left believes its a permanent victory as there is no one left to take Kirk's place.

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Well this certainly doesn’t help….

The man, later identified as Zinn, told the officer, “I shot him, now shoot me” twice, according to a jail report compiled by UVU police. The officer reported that he could not see a weapon, but he placed Zinn in handcuffs while others at the scene cleared the area.

Once in custody, Zinn continued to say he was the shooter, the report continued. Officers asked Zinn where the gun was, but they say he refused to tell them. He reportedly asked for his attorney when he was brought back to the university police headquarters for questioning, even after police said they didn’t believe he was the shooter.

He later said he “did it to draw attention from the real shooter,” police wrote in the report. He was first taken to a nearby hospital for an undisclosed medical condition. While at the hospital, Zinn told an officer that “he was glad he said he shot the individual so the real suspect could get away,” the affidavit adds.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/man-claimed-shoot-charlie-kirk-003549271.html

Its one big cognitive dissonance effort to say one side of coin is Tyler Robinson like Nick Fuentes, who is a lot more homophobic and hateful then Kirk.

Yet on other side of the coin his family said he said Kirk was spreading hate.

Then how do they reconcile he is a Fuentes supporter if he had a least a trans female roommate, and that he communicated with AntiFa members such as on Discord.

Its every effort to stick with MSNBC's hastily published but deliberate narrative he is not some clever AntiFa soy boy and virgins (of sex with cis females).

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

He reportedly asked for his attorney when he was brought back to the university police headquarters for questioning, even after police said they didn’t believe he was the shooter.

This is the closet I could find without using Fast People Search on George Zinn, and it looks legit.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100095132227663

And still another one of these Leftoids or Violent Left types who showed no shock or surprise at the event like they were going along "with the plan".

So what did Zinn know and is there more to this , and that's why he and Tyler Robinson have clamed up (and likely getting legal assistance from Democrat hack and high-dollar lawyers like Andrew Weismann).

And we can assume that Robinson's roommate is "cooperating" and providing helpful info to the state police and FBI.

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https://yaf.org/news/university-of-utah-sponsors-lecture-by-armed-queers-socialist-militia/

I wonder if the "armed queers militia" had anything to do with radicalizing Tyler Robinson.

See above link as it is dated in 2023 about the University of Utah LGBQT center sponsoring an event wit "armed queers militia".

I would not be surprised if Robinson affiliated with them such as online gaming networks, etc (just like Thomas Crooks lived in online gaming networks), and maybe his trans female roommate knows about this.

I also read that neighbors observed several visits to Tyler Robinson's home leading up to the assassination. The visitors had vehicles with out of state license plates.

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AD says

I would not be surprised if Robinson affiliated with them such as online gaming networks, etc

Gaming needs to be addressed to be honest. Once you're past 18 it's time to move on man. I still have friends that play for hours, sometimes up to 5-6 hours in a day in their 40's. It's antisocial. I make an effort to get out 1-2 times a week with buddies. I have kids though too so there's games, practices and events that I can socialize with other parents for an hour of two almost daily.

I think this it has a huge effect on family formation. Not a knock on those that don't have kids, I don't know your (anyones) situation, but you really have nothing to live for. I'm about 7 years until the kids are done as minors. Frankly don't know what I'll do after that. I'll find a hobby or something. Wasting away your life playing video games?

It's no wonder gamers do crazy shit. If you don't interact with people you will overreact when someone says something you don't believe. Problem is you didn't socialize with anyone and understand the real world. Just shooting people on your video game. Your normal in most video games is shooting people.

I despise regulation, but ban 25 and over counsel and game purchases. If your kid wants one give them the cash or gift card to buy it. In 5-8 years that counsel and games will be old, guess what, can't buy them anymore. Birthrate would skyrocket for late 20's and early 30's. I think video gaming is more toxic than alcohol or drugs for society if being honest.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/dissing-unity-tuesday-september-16

In my most recent podcast appearance, I opined that Charlie Kirk has single-handedly rescued our young men. Charlie arguably deserves sole credit for triggering the dual trends of young men returning to church and recommitting to the sanity of Republican political affiliation, where they are valued and lifted up instead of humiliated and mocked.

What Charlie Kirk has built is fairly called a signature accomplishment. But there’s so much more. Maybe most importantly, Charlie taught the rest of us that it could be done. He practically rubbed our faces in the fact that young people are not a lost cause.

Progressives slew him to shut him up and shut him down. But it was too late. Charlie survived long enough to prove the concept. He pioneered the trail. He showed us the way. He created an organization to train others, to reproduce and multiply his methods across the country and around the world.

No one can ever do it as well as Charlie. We will never again be gifted with an individual of Charlie’s good faith and with his breathtaking combination of talents.

But we will make up in numbers what we cannot reproduce in quality.

His assassination —his martyrdom— has sparked a wildfire of long-overdue conversation. For example, should people be fired for saying hateful and evil political things, calling ordinary people ‘’Hitler’ and fascists,’ and wishing death on fellow Americans? Obviously, the answer is yes. Yes, they should be fired. Promptly.

It shouldn’t be controversial. It’s not ‘cancel culture.’ It’s common sense. No one, for instance, should complain if a daycare worker gets fired for posting man-boy love memes.

And just like that "conservatives" have embraced the cancel culture. 🤭🤡