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172   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 11, 7:08pm  

New Camera Footage of the Shooter.



Walking with a limp, somehow because he's concealing something?
173   AD   2025 Sep 11, 7:10pm  

I heard of eyewitnesses making statements that this was not a lone gunman incident.

What is very surreal is this as you would think this man in the photo would be ducking and running instead of turning around to where the shot was fired and then celebrating.

You would think he was scared because a gun was being fired.

But instead it is as though he is celebrating like it was no surprise that Kirk got shot. And he turns around and seems to be cheering the shooter.

So I wonder if some may have know beforehand that there would be a sniper in the area to shoot Kirk.


174   AD   2025 Sep 11, 7:11pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Walking with a limp, somehow because he's concealing something?


The director of Utah state police say he has been digitally tracked from when he arrived on campus and when he left, and he said that the shooter jumped off the building. That may explain the limp.
175   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 11, 7:14pm  




AD says

The director of Utah state police say he has been digitally tracked from when he arrived on campus and when he left, and he said that the shooter jumped off the building. That may explain the limp.


I believe this video is from his approach. There's a video of him leaving in the same general area, he does not have a pronounced limp.
176   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 11, 7:17pm  




Here is him leaving the roof, letting himself down, he isn't limping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrfHme9Yhc

Unlike past admins, the Trump-Patel FBI is Johnny on the Spot, releasing Surveillance Video within hours on their own site.
https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/utah-valley-shooting-video-091025.mp4/view
177   Patrick   2025 Sep 11, 7:29pm  

RWSGFY says


The timing (during an answer to a trans-related question)


It wasn't though.

He was answering a question about gang violence.

https://markbisone.substack.com/p/the-dead-letter-left


Q. Do you know how many mass shootings there have been in America over the last ten years?

A, Counting or not counting gang violence?

Bang.
178   Patrick   2025 Sep 11, 7:35pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says


"Archive.is or it didn't happen"


Thank you @DemoralizerOfPanicans

No one should be posting things like that without doing the 30 seconds of research necessary to confirm and posting the link.
179   Patrick   2025 Sep 11, 7:56pm  

https://www.latintimes.com/private-jet-that-took-off-utah-after-charlie-kirk-assassination-disappears-mid-flight-sparking-589463


In the chaotic aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination at Utah Valley University (UVU), various reports of a private jet taking off from a nearby airport and illegally disappearing from tracking software have surfaced, pointing to the incident as proof of a conspiracy in the conservative commentator's murder.

Initially, X (Twitter) users expressed concern about the continued function of Provo Airport, which is a 15-minute drive away from the UVU campus, as the shooter could potentially use it to escape.

One of them, @stellarman22 wrote "A private jet under the tail number N888KG left Provo Airport an hour after the shooting... Suspiciously 30 mins into the flight it drops off of ADS-B illegally and reappears headed back to Provo approx. an hour later... Why did this plane turn off its radar? Where is the shooter?"



The jet is registered to "N888KG" LLC, which shares a Lehi, Utah address with the Derek and Shelaine Maxfield Family Foundation, which runs the Saprea non-profit organization to help survivors of sexual abuse. Many have pointed to the foundation's numerous connections to Israel as a cause for suspicion.

Another X user, @jonnysocialism, added that "It appears the private jet that took off after the assassination and stopped tracking was owned by the Derek & Shelaine Maxfield Foundation. They run a nonprofit called Saprea that focuses on victims of child sex abuse & have pictures of themselves visiting Israel on Facebook." ...





Then again, this itself could be deliberately planted misinformation.
181   Patrick   2025 Sep 11, 8:01pm  

https://nypost.com/2025/09/11/us-news/george-zinn-detained-in-viral-footage-after-charlie-kirk-assassination-well-known-political-gadfly/


The elderly man detained after apparently falsely admitting to shooting Charlie Kirk is a known political agitator with a string of bizarre arrests dating back to the 1980s, according to reports.

George Zinn — the 71-year-old police hauled away in viral footage minutes after Kirk was shot at Utah Valley University Wednesday — is known in local political circles as a strange man who frequently appears at events, and almost as frequently is tossed out.


Huh, maybe he was planted there to claim he did the shooting exactly in order to distract everyone enough to let the real shooter get away.
182   Patrick   2025 Sep 11, 8:23pm  

https://x.com/TexToxic/status/1966190859105489316


Did they track down Najra Galvez yet?


184   Patrick   2025 Sep 11, 8:50pm  

Patrick says


https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-charlie-kirk-2025


1. What Issues Do Gen Z Really Care About?
2. The Immigration Emergency
3. Why Republicans Are So Quick to Defend the Evils of Greedy Mega Corporations
4. Will Anyone Be Held Accountable for the Destruction of America’s Economy?




Watching this now. Amazing Tucker interviewed Kirk only a month ago.

The first good insight is that Russiagate is of a piece with the Ukraine war. The Dem based was told over and over that:

1. Trump is the ultimate evil.
2. Russia got Trump elected somehow.
3. So it's good to hate Russia.
4. And you should support the war in Ukraine without thinking.
185   Patrick   2025 Sep 11, 8:55pm  

Charlie is talking about how the CIA, NSA, etc officers are really the ones running the US government and are:

1. unelected, but can remain in office for life
2. unaccountable, never prosecuted no matter what they do
3. dictating US policy and spying on Americans

This alone could be a motive for them to kill Charlie.
186   Patrick   2025 Sep 11, 8:58pm  

Charlie was swinging young voters towards the Republicans in large numbers.

And talking about how the cost of a house has gone from 3x median income to 7x median income, making it impossible for the young to buy a house.

And that there are these 3 companies, Kalarna, Affirm, and Afterpay, that specialize in predatory lending to the young without any regulation on them. Not credit cards, but "BNPL", buy now pay later, plans.

I actually saw Affirm founder Max Levchin speak up close when I worked at Bigcommerce and he gave a presentation to the 40 of us there. He's one of Elon's friends from the founding of Paypal.
187   Patrick   2025 Sep 11, 9:13pm  

Like I was saying about Rome, he points out that the ties that bind us now are not at all genetic or cultural, just money.

And that the masses of recent immigrants, legal and illegal, mostly have no clue about American history or the principles on which the country was founded, and they do not care because they are here only for the money.
188   Patrick   2025 Sep 11, 9:17pm  

And wow, he points out that the educational system has become hyperfeminized, training only for "pink collar" type "mom" jobs like HR. Women in the workforce love those jobs exactly because they do not have children themselves.

And men don't want to be anywhere near those jobs.

There is a deficit of 500,000 electricians, but somehow the middle class is embarrassed to train their children for those jobs.
189   Patrick   2025 Sep 11, 9:29pm  

Interesting advice for young men: "Have more children than you can afford."

Maybe good advice actually.
190   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 11, 10:20pm  

Patrick says


The jet is registered to "N888KG" LLC, which shares a Lehi, Utah address with the Derek and Shelaine Maxfield Family Foundation, which runs the Saprea non-profit organization to help survivors of sexual abuse. Many have pointed to the foundation's numerous connections to Israel as a cause for suspicion.

Derek Maxfield is a cradle Mormon and a survivor of Leukemia. His claim to fame and fortune is Founder and CEO of Younique, a makeup company which was previously affiliated with Coty. Very strange the author skipped over what Maxfield is most famous for, or that Saprea was formerly "The Younique Foundation and Defend Innocence". A rich CEO puts his plane ownership/rental under his Foundation, no shocker there.

https://archive.is/mrMEw

What are these numerous connections? Younique does no business in Israel:


No, Younique does not officially sell products in Israel. As a multi-level marketing company, Younique operates in specific markets worldwide, including the United States, Canada, Mexico, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Portugal, Belgium, Austria, the Netherlands, Hong Kong, and Colombia, but Israel is not among them. Products are sold through independent presenters in these markets, and while some presenters may ship internationally, official support, localized pricing, and direct enrollment as a presenter are not available in Israel. No evidence of Israeli presenters or distributors was found in searches.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/AULYsoMygyQLCUAtV2Vjmg6AJ

All of this is bullshit agitprop constantly turning the Americans away from real problems and towards the enemies of the agitproppers.
191   Ceffer   2025 Sep 11, 11:49pm  

Michael Jaco ( CIA, military, weapons expert, did tours in Afg) reviews why the shooting was a false flag.

Apologies to all of those whose brains were flash banged by the shock and awe.

The 'wandering spot' was probably a projection and timed the blowing of the blood bag when it reached his neck.

He also comments on the Ukranian girl false flag and others. Interesting that he thinks the Venezuelan drug boat was hit with a DEW weapon.

original link
192   Ceffer   2025 Sep 12, 12:31am  

Now we know the real reason for the false flag. Grok is framing Maduro.

194   AD   2025 Sep 12, 1:28am  

increase the FBI reward to at least 3 million dollars for Charlie Kirk assassination

This will ensure if it is an AntiFa operation that even any cult member who was an accomplice will end up ratting out the trigger man.

Granted they may need at least a plea deal for a light sentence, and also Henry Hill-style witness protection since AntiFa could be a lot more ruthless than MS-13, the Italian mob or Scientology.

$3 million is a life changing amount so they would not have to work for the rest of their lives.

Just hope the trigger man did not kill the accomplices and then the ring leader or handler kills the trigger man.

No different than Joe Pesci (on orders from Robert Deniro) whacks Samuel L Jackson in Good Fellas.

I can't imagine this cunning assassin who may be more clever than Luigi Mangione (and a lot more clever than those nuts Thomas Crooks and Vance Boehler) lives that isolated a life that even if he was a "lone wolf" that there is no one who knows him and would rat him out for the right amount of money.

And if it was some KGB-style assassin to cause chaos in America, then offer $10 million reward so that some KGB handler of the assassin would come forward.

Not that I am saying the Kirk assassin is on a plane trip now to Russia to be Edward Snowden's roommate.
195   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 12, 1:45am  

Starbuck and Brusewitz adding to the pot, Ackman coming in with $1M

196   AD   2025 Sep 12, 1:47am  

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I read they think the shooter scouted out the building and was spotted on the roof 2 weeks ago. A professor had asked him if he is okay. So I wonder if they could get surveillance video of back then to see if they can identify him better.

Another matter is did he have enough time to disassemble the gun and get out of there ? Did he put it in the backpack as the video does not show him holding a gun or a slinged gun.

Then there are reports he hid the gun in a wooded area and I wonder if that is he got too worried about getting stopped by the police, even though he carefully planned this out.

This shooter is a lot more clever and cunning and not sloppy and nutty as a Vance Boehler or Thomas Crooks.

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198   AD   2025 Sep 12, 1:53am  

Yep, that is why I am concerned if this was like some AntiFa cult hit then there are going to be mob-style whacked.

But then that means parents and family members are going to wonder what happened as far as those whacked because they were accomplices and viewed as being potential informants.

Just pray someone comes forward or gets pinched and starts singing like a canary like Henry Hill did.

$150,000 is not enough. It has to be at least $3 million if there are no good leads within the next 14 days.
199   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Sep 12, 3:20am  

IF the shooter has survival skills, there’s a lot of nothing in northeastern Utah. Hundreds of miles of nothing. Get out of town immediately on the 189(amazing gorgeous drive through a rock canyon), get past Heber city, and there is endless land once you are on the 40. Look at a map and see all the massive reservoirs there(hence why the drought talk in utah is lame…they were smart and won’t ever run out of water) with literally no one around at all. And going further east gets even more desolate as are the parallel state highways north of there. Get into north western colorado and it’s more of the same…places where the few people living there are surviving the apocalypse.

Of course the survival skills needed to live there set a very very high bar. It’s rough land and there’s a reason hardly anyone lives there. But if dude had a stash, he could hide for a very very long time.
201   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2025 Sep 12, 6:07am  

Suspect in Charlie Kirk Shooting Identified as Tyler Robinson, 22-Year-Old Utah Man

Law enforcement officials have identified the suspect in the fatal Charlie Kirk shooting as Tyler Robinson, a 22-year-old Utah resident, according to a report from the New York Post. The revelation comes after days of speculation surrounding the case that has drawn national attention.

https://cedarnews.net/newstasks/tyler-robinson/876454/

Tyler Robinson, 22-year-old from Utah, ID’d as Charlie Kirk shooting suspect after father ‘turned him in’ — Trump: ‘We have him’

President Trump announced early Friday that a suspect for Charlie Kirk’s assassination was turned in by his father — with law enforcement sources telling The Post it is a 22-year-old Utah local, Tyler Robinson.

“I think, with a high degree of certainty, we have him,” Trump told “Fox & Friends” during a live interview at the cable giant’s Manhattan studio, saying he heard just minutes before his 8 a.m. interview.

“Somebody who was very close to him turned him in,” the president said, then revealing it was the suspect’s dad who relayed it through “a minister who was involved with law enforcement.”

https://nypost.com/2025/09/12/us-news/we-have-him-trump-says-suspect-in-custody-for-charlie-kirk-assassination/
202   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2025 Sep 12, 6:29am  

Suspect in Charlie Kirk Shooting Identified as Tyler Robinson, 22-Year-Old Utah Man

Law enforcement officials have identified the suspect in the fatal Charlie Kirk shooting as Tyler Robinson, a 22-year-old Utah resident, according to a report from the New York Post. The revelation comes after days of speculation surrounding the case that has drawn national attention.

https://cedarnews.net/newstasks/tyler-robinson/876454/

Tyler Robinson, 22-year-old from Utah, ID’d as Charlie Kirk shooting suspect after father ‘turned him in’ — Trump: ‘We have him’

President Trump announced early Friday that a suspect for Charlie Kirk’s assassination was turned in by his father — with law enforcement sources telling The Post it is a 22-year-old Utah local, Tyler Robinson.

“I think, with a high degree of certainty, we have him,” Trump told “Fox & Friends” during a live interview at the cable giant’s Manhattan studio, saying he heard just minutes before his 8 a.m. interview.

“Somebody who was very close to him turned him in,” the president said, then revealing it was the suspect’s dad who relayed it through “a minister who was involved with law enforcement.”

https://nypost.com/2025/09/12/us-news/we-have-him-trump-says-suspect-in-custody-for-charlie-kirk-assassination/
205   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Sep 12, 6:49am  

Wow. Dad turned him in!
206   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Sep 12, 6:50am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says






Looks like he wants to transition but is afraid to.
207   WookieMan   2025 Sep 12, 7:37am  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Wow. Dad turned him in!

Good. If true. Ultimately I wasn't a big Kirk fan, but he shouldn't lose his life over politics. He was a bit too religious for my liking. Generally agreed with his libertarian and conservative views. All that said, I'd never even think about killing someone about anything I disagreed with unless it involved my family. Kirk's views had nothing to do with my family so I though he was fine. Sad considering his kids were there from what I've read.
208   zzyzzx   2025 Sep 12, 7:40am  

Shows you what the police actually can do when they give a shit.
209   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Sep 12, 7:41am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says






So this isn’t the guy at all.
210   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Sep 12, 7:43am  

zzyzzx says

Shows you what the police actually can do when they give a shit.


If they put resources into it, they could catch almost anyone who committed a crime. There’s a reason that the homicide rate in LA Sf, and NY is so low. With so many cameras everywhere the cops have like a 90%+ solve rate on homicides. They just don’t have enough cops to pursue the lower level crimes.

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