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465   Patrick   2025 Sep 16, 6:39pm  

RWSGFY says

Well, people are getting fired not for wielding guns or knives, but for saying words. Being OK with firing for words is a slippery slope towards being OK with killing for words.


Felony threats are also words, but they are seriously illegal and should remain so.

The left is experimenting with just how far it can go towards yelling "KILL A CONSERVATIVE NOW!" in public without getting prosecuted.

No one on the right is saying anything like that.
466   Patrick   2025 Sep 16, 6:50pm  

https://x.com/DailyCaller/status/1965775274353795488


Murder of Iryna Zarutska: Charlie Kirk VS. Van Jones



468   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 16, 7:30pm  

UT AG Grey: Father became concerned when reports of the Rifle discovered matched that given to Robinson by his Grandfather
https://x.com/comlabman/status/1968031387174441417


Utah County Attorney Jeff Grey says the mother of the suspect in Charlie Kirk’s assassination said her son had become “over the last year or so...more political and had started to lean more to the left, becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.”

“She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders.”

https://x.com/CurtisHouck/status/1968021497617801318


Utah County Attorney Jeff Grey says the transgender roommate/lover of the alleged Charlie Kirk assassin “received messages from Robinson about the shooting, and he did provide those messages to police.” In one text exchange, the suspect said he killed Kirk because he “had enough of his hatred” and “some hate can’t be negotiated out”

He also quipped he would “have a stroke” if he saw Fox News mention the messages written on the bullets


same thread
469   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 16, 7:32pm  

RWSGFY says


And just like that "conservatives" have embraced the cancel culture. 🤭🤡

Cancel Culture: Firing or for having personal views.
Not Cancel Culture: Firing schoolteachers, health care professionals, and others for celebrating and lionizing the assassination of a non-violent person.

You can't have an "Ethics Tutor" or K-12 "SEL" Teacher who thinks it's okay to assassinate people who merely like to debate
472   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 16, 9:18pm  

Ackman: I had no argument, heated or otherwise, with Kirk in the Hamptons (via Zoom)
https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1967752970260349095

Ackman and Charlie had no beef at the retreat at all, according to TPUSA :
https://x.com/AndrewKsway/status/1967768580625420417

Seth Dillon: No argument during the open meeting Charlie hosted.
https://x.com/SethDillon/status/1968040602039169391

Ackman should sue Candass.
473   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 16, 9:24pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

RWSGFY says



And just like that "conservatives" have embraced the cancel culture. 🤭🤡

Cancel Culture: Firing or for having personal views.
Not Cancel Culture: Firing schoolteachers, health care professionals, and others for celebrating and lionizing the assassination of a non-violent person.

You can't have an "Ethics Tutor" or K-12 "SEL" Teacher who thinks it's okay to assassinate people who merely like to debate


Pretzeling. It's all persecuting people for personal opinion, corner cases nonwithstanding. The left demanded people get fired for saying the n-word or questioning the holiness of St. George Floyd or being a doctor and disagreeing with the vaccine mandate (a direct analogy for "ethics teacher saing CK had it coming", btw). How quickly we forget.
475   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 16, 9:31pm  

Same Thread. Data Republican brings the receipts of State Department funding, too.



Almost every group in your local area involved with "Peace" or "Conflict Resolution" is full of UltraLeft extremists.


Let me emphasize.

SLC Armed Queers is not "adjacent" to the honor that Ermiya Fanaeian got from Utah Global Diplomacy.

Utah Global Diplomacy specifically awarded her for her work with trans people, of which SLC Armed Queers is key.

This may be why they scrubbed their pages.


https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1967762372690682243
476   AD   2025 Sep 16, 9:56pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Ackman should sue Candy.

https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1967752970260349095


nope as Bill Ackman is as much a "limited public figure" or "public figure" as George Soros Jr or Bill Gates

and Candace Owens expressed her opinion on Ackman's actions and behavior around Charlie Kirk

she is at least protected by SCOTUS case law like NY Times vs Sullivan

and its not a clear-cut matter like Trump suing ABC News for stating he was a "convicted rapist" as that is "clearly or obviously untrue"

so how his Ackman going to clearly prove he did not try to intervene or extort or coerce Charlie Kirk, even if it was indirect action ?

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477   AD   2025 Sep 16, 9:58pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says



https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1967758989791465856


This is what I was stating as far as FBI finally throwing away the Biden regime's handbook that AntiFa does not exist

This is like going after the Italian mafia or some transnational organize crime syndicate as you have to draw a network map of all the nodes or players with these NGO's on it and Tyler Robinson as well with the "online gaming community" being as one line or conduit between Robinson and the intermediaries

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480   Ceffer   2025 Sep 16, 10:53pm  

The 'anti-forensics' proceeds apace.

482   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 16, 11:48pm  

RWSGFY says


Pretzeling. It's all persecuting people for personal opinion, corner cases nonwithstanding. The left demanded people get fired for saying the n-word or questioning the holiness of St. George Floyd or being a doctor and disagreeing with the vaccine mandate (a direct analogy for "ethics teacher saing CK had it coming", btw). How quickly we forget.

Teachers have been fired for running a bikini hot dog stand in another state during summer break.

Or for flashing their boobs at a festival Key West.

Neither event was promoted by the teacher, but rather simply reported on by a third party.

I think we can fire teachers for saying it's okay to kill people who want to debate, and for going out and saying that publicly.
483   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 16, 11:53pm  

AD says

nope as Bill Ackman is as much a "limited public figure" or "public figure" as George Soros Jr or Bill Gates

Trump is correct that defamation laws are way too lenient.
484   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Sep 17, 6:07am  

RWSGFY says

And just like that "conservatives" have embraced the cancel culture. 🤭🤡


That’s not the same. Being cancelled for “I voted for Trump” is not same as being cancelled for “fucking die conservatives, want you all dead!!!! Arrrt!!!”

Do you not see the difference?
486   beershrine   2025 Sep 17, 7:35am  

Until liability is passed to social media companies then we can start to address the "all my freinds go by username". They created this condition.
487   Patrick   2025 Sep 17, 9:29am  

https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1968112360138109124


Tucker Carlson reveals that Charlie Kirk told him many times in private that he did not like Benjamin Netanyahu.

He says Kirk saw Netanyahu as a destructive force and was horrified by the children being killed in Gaza under his leadership.

Kirk believed Netanyahu was draining the lifeblood of the United States to serve his own ambitions and his country.

Carlson says Charlie Kirk’s Israeli donors “tormented him until the day he died.”





Tucker should prove it and show the text messages.

His wife Erika could also chime in.
488   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 17, 10:33am  

Fortwaye says

RWSGFY says


And just like that "conservatives" have embraced the cancel culture. 🤭🤡


That’s not the same. Being cancelled for “I voted for Trump” is not same as being cancelled for “fucking die conservatives, want you all dead!!!! Arrrt!!!”

Do you not see the difference?


It is the same. Here, from the horse's mouth:


489   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 17, 10:43am  

Attorney General Pam Bondi has made quite the First Amendment-related faux pas: In a recent interview about what the federal government could do to deter political violence in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, she said the federal government would "go after" anyone engaged in hate speech.

Bondi should know, however, that hate speech is vigorously protected by the First Amendment, and as such, cannot be policed.

Unfortunately, the attorney general made an illusory distinction between free speech and hate speech, implying that the latter was subject to government action.

"There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society," she said.


Bondi sounds like Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Kamala Harris' pick to be vice president, who made similar claims during the 2024 campaign—
("There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech, and especially around our democracy." -- Tampon Timmy)
and that's a very bad thing. Both are appallingly wrong. The Supreme Court has repeatedly affirmed that so-called hate speech falls under First Amendment protection, most recently in the 2017 case Matal v. Tam, which was decided unanimously.

...true threats of violence against specific individuals or institutions lose First Amendment protection if they are specific enough, though general advocacy of violence is usually still protected. This kind of speech isn't called hate speech though; it's called incitement. Hate speech, on its own, is simply not a separate category of unprotected speech, from the standpoint of the Supreme Court.



https://reason.com/2025/09/16/pam-bondi-is-really-wrong-about-hate-speech/
490   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 17, 10:48am  

"There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech, and especially around our democracy." -- Tampon Timmy
491   socal2   2025 Sep 17, 10:49am  

Patrick says

Tucker should prove it and show the text messages.


Yes - the increasingly unhinged and Qatar funded Tucker should prove it.

What a way to shit on Charlie's legacy and honesty before he is even buried. Bullshit claims like this implies that Charlie was lying (or too afraid to be honest) even 2 weeks ago.

Here is Charlie Kirk calling the anti-Semites "demonic" just 2 weeks ago.

No one.......no one that is as informed as Charlie Kirk does a 180 degree on major issues like this unless they are massively dishonest and/or being paid to push propaganda.

https://x.com/realsamanthagra/status/1967266314281783299
492   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 17, 10:53am  

Cucker Tarlson is a piece of shit. Always was.
494   WookieMan   2025 Sep 17, 11:29am  

Patrick says





Even if King did does anyone pay attention to the guy besides boomers? His books were popular when I was a teen. That's 30 years ago. Haven't thought about King in actual decades. Had a few hits, the rest were shit. Also, the guy is not well liked in the fiction book writing industry. My uncles neighbor wrote a wildly more popular series than anything King put out. TDS for King.
495   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Sep 17, 11:49am  

RWSGFY says

Fortwaye says


RWSGFY says



And just like that "conservatives" have embraced the cancel culture. 🤭🤡


That’s not the same. Being cancelled for “I voted for Trump” is not same as being cancelled for “fucking die conservatives, want you all dead!!!! Arrrt!!!”

Do you not see the difference?



It is the same. Here, from the horse's mouth:





Just so you understand, I Don’t agree with firings. But you should see difference between celebrating murder and political disagreement.

Liberalism is cancer destroying our fabric, and they are blind to see consequences of godlessness.
496   The_Deplorable   2025 Sep 17, 11:59am  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says
"Teachers have been fired for running a bikini hot dog stand in another state during summer break."

Wow! A teacher was fired for wearing a bikini during the summer break? Is this in the USA or Saudi Arabia?
497   HeadSet   2025 Sep 17, 12:02pm  

The_Deplorable says

Wow! A teacher was fired for wearing a bikini during the summer break?

Maybe she weighed over 300 pounds....
498   stereotomy   2025 Sep 17, 12:03pm  

Let's all be clear here - the First Amendment applies to GOVERNMENT suppression, either directly or indirectly (as we have seen during the scamdemic). Private individuals can say what they want - they can also have the shit beaten out of them for doing so.

Two wrongs don't make a right, though, and while vile speech may incur civil penalties for libel or slander, physical violence by civilians to civilians is always a criminal offense.

A case can be made that the government, through it's influence/control of the media and the incendiary rhetoric of leftist politicians, profoundly violated Kirk's First Amendment rights, and furthermore, is both civilly and criminally liable for his death.
499   The_Deplorable   2025 Sep 17, 12:10pm  

RWSGFY says
"Cucker Tarlson is a piece of shit. Always was."

This is not an argument. This is an ad hominem attack against Tucker.
You are wasting our time.
500   RWSGFY   2025 Sep 17, 12:45pm  

The_Deplorable says

RWSGFY says

"Cucker Tarlson is a piece of shit. Always was."

This is not an argument. This is an ad hominem attack against Tucker.
You are wasting our time.


Who said it was an argument? There were many arguments presented on this very site. This one is a conclusion.
501   The_Deplorable   2025 Sep 17, 1:52pm  

RWSGFY says
"This one is a conclusion."

It is a baseless conclusion and you don't have arguments to support it.

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