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2025 Oct 6, 5:14pm   7,948 views  1,488 comments

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( Previous Globull Warming threads were merged into this one on 7 Oct 2025. See https://patrick.net/post/1210872/2012-04-02-patrick-net-suggestions?start=624#comment-2213087 )

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1369   Patrick   2025 Jul 17, 11:14am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/re-heated-thursday-july-17-2025-c


https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/tonga-eruption-blasted-unprecedented-amount-of-water-into-stratosphere

“Unprecedented” is accurate. But that word doesn’t do justice to the scale of this environmental catastrophe. NASA’s climate experts (it’s anybody’s guess why a space agency dabbles in the weather) described Hunga Tonga as one of the most dramatic events in modern history. It generated a trans-oceanic tsunami that reached all ocean basins, every continent’s shorelines, and over 40 countries thousands of miles away.

It caused the most intense atmospheric explosion ever recorded by modern instruments.

One of the most important side effects was that Hunga’s eruption broke all records for injection of water vapor —the most powerful greenhouse gas— into the atmosphere. ...

But even those record-shattering calculations were only early estimates. Over the next year, data showed NASA badly underestimated the full amount of water Hunga Tonga had vaporized into the atmosphere. Current estimates are three times higher than initially thought: scientists now believe it was closer to 150,000 metric tons, or approximately 40 trillion gallons of superheated water instantly injected into the atmosphere.

Talk about a greenhouse. Just ask Floridians about humidity. Water vapor — humidity — is a much more effective greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. ...

Despite all these shattered records —too many to list— we never heard anything about Hunga Tonga. (Thanks, media.) Hopefully, you’re starting to think that maybe the hot summer weather this year (2023) might have something to do with this historic volcanic eruption and all the oppressive new water vapor injected into the air just last year. ...

Corporate media isn’t ignoring the story because it lacks dramatic graphs and charts. Here’s one showing how atmospheric water vapor increased recently, compared to the prior twenty years. The atmosphere’s water concentration is off the chart:



1372   Patrick   2025 Jul 20, 1:14pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/study-most-global-warming-caused-reduction-pollution/


According to researchers from the University of Exeter, the biggest factor driving global warming since 2001 isn’t the rise in carbon dioxide (CO2) levels, but rather a reduction in sulfur dioxide (SO2) pollution.

The revelation has major implications for the “global warming” debate and for the “environmental” policies that push for costly regulations and collectivist government control.

The researchers found that the decline in SO2 emissions, which have been linked to industrial and maritime pollution, has resulted in darker clouds, causing less solar radiation to be reflected into space.

This means that the Earth is absorbing more heat, leading to “global warming.”

The study, presented at the UK’s Exeter Climate Conference, raises questions about the narrative that CO2 is the primary driver of “climate change” and suggests that a reduction in pollution, rather than an increase in CO2, is behind the warming trend.


I suppose it could have an effect.
1373   HeadSet   2025 Jul 20, 3:26pm  

Patrick says

I suppose it could have an effect.

Not at all. Does everyone forget how large the planet and atmosphere are?
1374   stereotomy   2025 Jul 20, 5:46pm  

Reduction in sulphur dioxide levels due to 3rd world pollution reduction, which decreases global albedo, combined with the Tonga undersea eruption that injected gigatons of water vapor (the most potent greenhouse gas) into the atmosphere, and you get global warming that HAS NOTHING THE FUCK TO DO WITH ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING WHATSOEVER , unless you consider pollution reduction an unmitigated evil.
1375   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jul 20, 6:56pm  

stereotomy says

Reduction in sulphur dioxide levels due to 3rd world pollution reduction


Actually, it was First World reductions from a treaty because of acid rain. Third world emissions - especially coal fired plants - still are prevalent somewhat.
1376   Patrick   2025 Jul 27, 4:52pm  

https://timlynch.substack.com/p/the-climate-alarmism-grift-is-dying


In a shocking display of academic integrity, two eminent professors published a masterfully complex paper that undermines the foundation of climate alarmism. MIT’s Richard Lindzen, Professor of Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences, Emeritus, and Princeton’s William Happer, Professor of Physics, Emeritus, published a paper titled PHYSICS DEMONSTRATES THAT INCREASING GREENHOUSE GASES CANNOT CAUSE DANGEROUS WARMING, EXTREME WEATHER OR ANY HARM. ...

Lindzen and Happer use physics to demonstrate that CO2’s warming effect is limited by its logarithmic absorption of infrared radiation. The warming effect of each molecule of CO2 decreases as its concentration increases. They estimate low climate sensitivity (~0.5–1.5°C per CO2 doubling), which is far below the IPCC’s range of 2.5–4°C.

They contend that Hurricanes, droughts, and floods exhibit no apparent increase in frequency driven by CO2, with natural variability dominating (e.g., NOAA’s stable hurricane frequency since 1980). They demonstrate that higher CO2 levels enhance photosynthesis, resulting in a 14% global greening trend (NASA, 1982–2015) and a 20% increase in crop yields (FAO, 2000–2020).

They then emphasize that phasing out fossil fuels, which supply 80% of global energy (IEA, 2023), will raise costs and harm developing nations, with minimal climate benefit. Their physics-based approach challenges high-sensitivity climate models, which have overestimated warming in periods such as 1998–2014. They also align with skepticism of alarmist policies, like EPA regulations, which they’ve called a “hoax” in prior work.

The premise of man-made climate change hinges on three key facts: CO2 traps heat, humans have increased CO2 levels (~420 ppm today vs. 280 ppm pre-industrial), and this drives global warming. Lindzen and Happer don’t dispute the first two but argue that the warming is minimal and benign.

They contend CO2 is not destroying the planet; it’s enhancing life on it. Across the globe, elevated CO2 levels are supercharging plant growth and delivering bountiful crop harvests at unprecedented rates.
1377   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jul 27, 6:09pm  

Patrick says

Lindzen and Happer use physics to demonstrate that CO2’s warming effect is limited by its logarithmic absorption of infrared radiation. The warming effect of each molecule of CO2 decreases as its concentration increases


This is old news. I used to throw this at iwog and he would deny it constantly.
1378   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jul 29, 2:05pm  




https://www.energy.gov/topics/climate

Hooorah! What a difference a new team makes.


1379   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jul 29, 2:06pm  

MolotovCocktail says




https://www.energy.gov/topics/climate

Hooorah! What a difference a new team makes.



1380   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jul 29, 2:08pm  

MolotovCocktail says




https://www.energy.gov/topics/climate

Hooorah! What a difference a new team makes.






1385   stereotomy   2025 Aug 3, 1:04pm  

I think it's largely true - any short term rise in sea level is partially, if not completely absorbed into the Earth's crust from ocean fissures. Yes, short term, there might be a small increase, but does anyone with any reasonable level of physics and geology knowledge doubt that water pressure at the bottom of the ocean is more than sufficient to squeeze into any fissure, no matter how small, in the ocean crust? Why are the ocean crust fissures the most active regions of seismic activity across the globe? Water is a lubricant.

True, if water is locked up on land by the gigaton during ice ages, sea level falls for two reasons. Besides the obvious, it also depresses the centers of continents, which causes the edges, or continental shelves to rise.
1387   stereotomy   2025 Aug 3, 6:16pm  

Half of Canada is on fire since June. Guess where? In the provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan, British Columbia, and Manitoba.

It just so happens that these are the four provinces making the most noise about leaving the corrupt Canadian federation.

Coincidence? If not, why aren't Ontario and Quebec burning as well?

Globohomo at its finest . . .


1389   WookieMan   2025 Aug 3, 7:53pm  

stereotomy says

Half of Canada is on fire since June. Guess where? In the provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan, British Columbia, and Manitoba.

It just so happens that these are the four provinces making the most noise about leaving the corrupt Canadian federation.

Coincidence? If not, why aren't Ontario and Quebec burning as well?

Globohomo at its finest . . .




Missed this. Posted a map in the Canada thread. It's a shit show. And correct, the eastern territories have squat going on.

Literally looks like someone just took a road trip and started stuff on fire. It's been bad here in IL the last 5 years for sure. I mean at what point do all the forests burn down?
1390   stereotomy   2025 Aug 3, 10:21pm  

WookieMan says

Literally looks like someone just took a road trip and started stuff on fire. It's been bad here in IL the last 5 years for sure. I mean at what point do all the forests burn down?

Well, once they burn down all the forests, they'll start in the cities - first the Teslas, then the buildings; that was the whole point of eliminating cops.

Then, when they run out of things to set on fire, they proclaim, "Look what anthropic global warming has done!"

These pantifa arsonists are insane fucking psychos funded by the USAID and the deep state.
1395   MolotovCocktail   2025 Aug 8, 3:09pm  

And now solar:


1397   stereotomy   2025 Aug 9, 1:45pm  

MolotovCocktail says

And now solar:




Maybe that's why proto- and early humans grew bigger brains - to compete against increased CO2 in the atmosphere. Human brains shrunk in the centuries after the ice age because the CO2 content was meager.

The dinosaurs had tiny brains, because the O2 content in the atmosphere was up to 40%. Insects were over a foot long, because they depend on the adsorption of oxygen through spicules and don't have lungs.

Brain size is influenced by cognitive needs, body size, and the availability of oxygen to fuel brain function.
1398   MolotovCocktail   2025 Aug 9, 1:58pm  

Oceans absorb human produced CO2 quite easily...and fast.




1400   HeadSet   2025 Aug 9, 5:53pm  

stereotomy says

Maybe that's why proto- and early humans grew bigger brains - to compete against increased CO2 in the atmosphere.

Interesting theory but consider that CO2 was always just a trace element throughout all human existence. In no way did changing between one trace level to a slightly higher trace level have any effect on oxygen levels.
1401   HeadSet   2025 Aug 9, 5:57pm  

AD says

WTF ? I think its more natural than man made as part of the Earth's natural cycle

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/for-the-first-time-in-history-an-entire-nation-is-about-to-be-evacuated-because-of-global-warming/ar-AA1KcXDQ

.

Also, if global warming was causing sea levels at Tuvalu to rise 15 centimeters, then sea levels everywhere would be rising at that rate.
1402   stereotomy   2025 Aug 9, 6:18pm  

AD says

WTF ? I think its more natural than man made as part of the Earth's natural cycle

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/for-the-first-time-in-history-an-entire-nation-is-about-to-be-evacuated-because-of-global-warming/ar-AA1KcXDQ

.

You won't deny that atmospheric oxygen levels were up to 100% higher in the history of the Earth?

Large brains grow because there is less oxygen to metabolize glucose, the preferred nutrient of the brain.
1403   HeadSet   2025 Aug 9, 6:38pm  

stereotomy says

You won't deny that atmospheric oxygen levels were up to 100% higher in the history of the Earth?

Not during the human era. Good thing, imagine the size of mosquitos that could exist in a 40% oxygen atmosphere.
1404   stereotomy   2025 Aug 9, 7:37pm  

HeadSet says

stereotomy says


You won't deny that atmospheric oxygen levels were up to 100% higher in the history of the Earth?

Not during the human era. Good thing, imagine the size of mosquitos that could exist in a 40% oxygen atmosphere.

They did exist, not necessarily mosquitoes, but dragonflies over a foot long. The availability of oxygen to animals, as well as the availability of CO2 for plants, has profoundly influenced life on this planet for the past 500 million years.
1405   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Aug 9, 7:39pm  

Ah, wind power, the ultimate lesson that "average" can encompass a wide range of numbers.
1406   HeadSet   2025 Aug 10, 8:59am  

stereotomy says

dragonflies over a foot long

A local museum here has a cast of that famous dragon fly with the 4-foot wingspan. Modern dragonflies eat mosquitos, so if that ancient one has a similar diet.....
1407   MolotovCocktail   2025 Aug 10, 10:15am  

Geologist Prof. Ian Plimer: "There is no climate emergency... It has never been proven that human emissions of carbon dioxide drive global warming."


"Only 3% of emissions are from humans, the rest is natural... So if you're to prove that humans, and their emissions of the the gas of life, change climate, then you also have to prove that the natural emissions—97% of all emissions—don't change climate."


"That has never been addressed."



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