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How to end Gerrymandering


               
2025 Oct 14, 8:02pm   1,063 views  41 comments

by Patrick   follow (59)  

End gerrymandering by finding the shortest perfectly straight line in the state which separates off 1/(no. of Congressmen) of the population. Then do it again and again until the state is divided into districts of equal population without politics playing any role in the division.

Example: 7 district state of 7 million people. Find the shortest line possible which separates District 1 (1M) from the remainder of the state.

Remainder (6M):

6M → Shortest line: District 2 (1M) + 5M
5M → Shortest line: District 3 (1M) + 4M
4M → Shortest line: District 4 (1M) + 3M
3M → Shortest line: District 5 (1M) + 2M
2M → Shortest line: District 6 (1M) + District 7 (1M)

Each split minimizes that specific line's length while hitting the 1M target.

It's deterministic and fair. Results would look kind of like this, for a 9-district state:


( image from https://rangevoting.org/SplitLR.html )

This is a plank of https://patrick.net/post/1303173/2017-02-19-patrick-s-platform

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20   SharkyP   2025 Oct 17, 8:59am  

I believe there should be a basic civil rights test given to anyone wishing to vote. Also a minimum IQ qualification. Originally we only allowed property owners to vote, in today’s world that wouldn’t work, but I don’t want stupid people deciding my future.
21   Patrick   2025 Oct 17, 9:02am  

I agree. How about the same test that legal immigrants have to pass to get citizenship?
22   GreaterNYCDude   2025 Oct 17, 9:11am  

Patrick says

I agree. How about the same test that legal immigrants have to pass to get citizenship?

I'd be fine with that. I'd have to study. But I'd be fine with that.
23   Patrick   2025 Oct 17, 9:55am  

And it should be in English only.

Not that I even like English. 300 years ago, none of my ancestors spoke it.
24   stereotomy   2025 Oct 17, 10:16am  

Patrick says


Not that I even like English. 300 years ago, none of my ancestors spoke it.

Same here - mother from County Mayo. Father first generation from Scandinavian parents.

Cromwell said "To Hell or to Connaught" as he was slaughtering the Catholics back in the day.
25   DeficitHawk   2025 Oct 17, 10:51am  

I voted yes on 50. But I'd agree with an algorithmic approach like Patrick's if implemented in all 50 states.

Id much prefer to see an algorithmic approach rather than competitive gerrymandering.

Would need to be by constitutional amendment I suppose. Id be all for that.

Of course people will argue about which exact algorithm to follow... But at least less political gaming would be possible once the algorithm is agreed
26   Patrick   2025 Oct 18, 5:53pm  

https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1976334149066817835



Another good reason to vote in person on this.
27   Patrick   2025 Oct 18, 7:21pm  

On the other hand, I showed this to my wife, and the holes in the envelope she has definitely do not line up like that. It would be hard to see the vote.
28   Patrick   2025 Oct 19, 11:52am  

For the memes:


29   Patrick   2025 Oct 23, 10:43am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/roto-rooting-thursday-october-23


Yesterday, NBC ran another encouraging story, headlined, “North Carolina lawmakers pass new map designed to give GOP an extra House seat.” It’s even better than that; technically, the new seat shifts the House +2 toward the GOP, since the move also eliminated a Democrat district. A small group of NC Democrats outside the state Senate building were mad. So much to protest, so little time.

Thanks to the state’s legislative supermajority, North Carolina’s Democrat Governor Josh Stein cannot veto the new map. “If I did have that power, I assure you I would veto this map,” Stein told the public in a social media video yesterday. The new map will be used for next year’s midterms.


I'm not for gerrymandering on either side. We need a simple districting algorithm like the one above.
30   MolotovCocktail   2025 Oct 23, 3:09pm  

Patrick says

Yesterday, NBC ran another encouraging story, headlined, “North Carolina lawmakers pass new map designed to give GOP an extra House seat.”


And when SCOTUS trashes the VRA's gerrymandering, South Carolina will redraw the map again.
31   Patrick   2025 Nov 1, 1:23pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/ohio-unanimously-approves-new-congressional-map-potentially-handing-gop-2-extra-house-seats-midterms/


Ohio has approved a new congressional map that could give Republicans two additional House seats in the upcoming 2026 midterm elections.

The move further strengthens the GOP’s position heading into a critical election cycle.

The Ohio Redistricting Commission voted unanimously Friday to adopt the new map, which favors Republicans in 12 of the state’s 15 congressional districts.

The Buckeye State now joins a growing list of Republican-led states redrawing their maps to solidify control of the U.S. House as part of a broader strategy encouraged by President Donald Trump.
32   HeadSet   2025 Nov 1, 9:04pm  

Patrick says

Ohio has approved a new congressional map that could give Republicans two additional House seats in the upcoming 2026 midterm elections.

Virginia is trying to gerrymander toward Dems.
33   DeficitHawk   2025 Nov 1, 10:15pm  

Patrick says






Something baffles me about this image. I can't see how the described algorithm results in this map. I can understand the line segment in the upper left corner is the first one... But which line is the second line to be drawn? None of the lines seem to be possible with this algorithm.
34   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Nov 1, 10:23pm  

DeficitHawk says

Something baffles me about this image. I can't see how the described algorithm results in this map. I can understand the line segment in the upper left corner is the first one... But which line is the second line to be drawn? None of the lines seem to be possible with this algorithm.


My guess is the algorithm evenly divides into n-districts with the additional goal of maximizing district geographical sizes where discontinuity is a valid strategy.

Or it's just a fucking example image for an article where the target audience isn't supposed to be very bright with the possibility of it being sourced from a 6 fingered AI image generator.
35   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Nov 1, 10:24pm  

fwiw, I like the idea in principle but I'm not a fan until we become a high trust society again. Until then: War
36   DeficitHawk   2025 Nov 1, 11:54pm  

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

Or it's just a fucking example image for an article where the target audience isn't supposed to be very bright with the possibility of it being sourced from a 6 fingered AI image generator.

I think it's this one. The map can not result from the algorithm described.
37   DeficitHawk   2025 Nov 2, 12:11am  

Actually, I read up on the algorithms described at that url. The map is not from the algorithm described in the image... It's from a different algorithm that splits the state in halves progressively. That matches the map.

The text embedded in the map image is not the algorithm for the map.
38   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Nov 3, 8:06pm  

DeficitHawk says

Actually, I read up on the algorithms described at that url. The map is not from the algorithm described in the image... It's from a different algorithm that splits the state in halves progressively. That matches the map.

The text embedded in the map image is not the algorithm for the map.


Well, at least you didn't fall for an AI generated BS documentary about the Hell's Angles killing over 300 Mexican cartel members.
40   Patrick   2025 Dec 30, 12:05pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/supreme-court-ruling-boost-gop-house-control-2026/


A single Supreme Court decision is expected have a major impact on which party controls the U.S. House in 2026, with the ruling expected to secure a major boost for Republicans.

The pivotal case is Louisiana v. Callais, challenging Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

The case may reshape congressional maps across the South and potentially net the GOP nine or more seats in the upcoming midterm elections.

During oral arguments two months ago, a majority of the conservative Supreme Court justices signaled skepticism about race-based congressional districts.

The practice is rooted in Section 2’s protections against voting discrimination based on race or color.

This provision has historically led to majority-minority districts, often benefiting Democrats in Republican-leaning states with significant black populations.

If struck down, as many as 30 districts with high black voter populations, over half in red states, could be redrawn, directly threatening Democratic Party strongholds.

Analysis from The New York Times suggests that scrapping these districts might reduce the number of Democrat-held seats in the South from 24 to half that number, with nine direct pickups for the GOP.
41   MolotovCocktail   2025 Dec 30, 2:01pm  

Patrick says

Analysis from The New York Times suggests that scrapping these districts might reduce the number of Democrat-held seats in the South from 24 to half that number, with nine direct pickups for the GOP.



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