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ok friends enough with the ass remarks um i think the real estate market has made an ass out of a lot of us!
happy new year to all : )

I think it's wise to CLEARLY identify the two real and actual political parties that now exist in the United States. Choose your side, but take your time deciding. One side seeks total control over society and the individual at all costs, for the grandiose goal of a perfect Utopia. The other side seeks freedom for the individual, within reason, since individual freedom is Utopia. Historically, tyranny and repression of the individual generally comes about from those who choose control over freedom.

SIDE 1: The Fabian Socialists, also known as Communitarians. Also known as the Third Way, or a cross between communism and a free republic. Note how you intentionally never hear these definitions in the Communitarian-owned mainstream media -- this is intentional as the Fabian Socialist works undercover, over a long period of time. This includes most Republican and Democrat politicians in the US today. The essence of their philosophy is that the needs of the community are always more important than those of the individual, despite that the community is made of individuals and that the freedom of the individual has moved civilization forward for millenia.

SIDE 2: The Libertarians. Not to be confused with the "Tea Party" which is an intentional bastardization of Libertarian philosophy, and was created by Side 1 which indicates the level of fanaticism and moral corruption Side 1 will undergo to pursue their goals. Libertarian ideals are best expressed through the non-racist John Birch Society, the reputation of which has been literally destroyed by the Side 1-owned mainstream media despite that the vast majority of Americans, when polled, agree with Libertarian ideals.

There you have it. If you are pro-socialist you are by default a Fabian Socialist Communitarian because there's really no other socialist game in town worth speaking of. There is no such thing as a Libertarian-Communitarian.

Patrick in his original post above seems to claim both sides. This, IMO, means he is indulging in the traditional method of the Communitarian. They decided long ago to pursue their collectivist goals at all costs, through repeated distortion and manipulation of truth.

If Patrick is a Fabian Socialist/Communitarian, I think he should come clean and let us know about it. If he is a Libertarian, we should know that, too. But there is no such thing as being both at the same time, as they completely conflict with each other on the issue of the individual vs. collectivist society. The powers that be are pushing one way or the other at this time in history. To assume both sides wreaks of the traditional Communitarian method of manipulation.

A great 6-minute video about Communitarianism as it applies to current events...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKW862_h-W4

On a similar note, it's worth mentioning that the greatest innovations that mankind has brought to civilization have generally come about through dreams -- the dreams of the individual, not of a group. The discovery of the structure of the Benzene molecule is a good example of this. In addition, historically speaking, it is the shaman of the tribe (an individual) who is responsible for the health and safety of the tribe. The shaman takes it upon himself to join the world of man with the world of spirit, for the furtherment of the community. This is something that has been going on since the dawn of man, and it still goes on today.

A collectivist society ultimately replaces the individual's dreams and the shaman's talents with the State, or a soviet (a community that leads itself through collectivism; no individual property rights, etc.). The government becomes your role model and this is under the assumption the State is capable of doing such things, which historically, it has never been able to do for any community anywhere in the world. It tries, but this is how we end up with sick society (which of course is conveniently blamed on the Libertarian).

As a former Libertarian, this poster really does hit home:

From here:

http://www.leftycartoons.com/the-24-types-of-libertarian/

This is a great thread, and this outline: http://patrick.net/housing/crash1.html is 150% spot on the mark! You nail every hard core fact with statistics to back it all up. Book about your stance? Yes.

Ruki says

But liberals don't care...liberals only care about POWER. They DREAM of having as much power as the old communist central commitees and poliburos of the past. That's all they care about.

Ruki says

I have observed that most liberals in general either are incapable of understanding that or just DO NOT WANT to acknowledge that for ideological purity reasons. It is the main reason why I feel liberals DESERVE the title LIBTARD out of all the others.

Thank you for your refreshing point of view - not sure how you can see out of such a tiny hole, tho.