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101729   Shaman   2019 Mar 28, 8:25am  

Tim Aurora says
A Fox News legal analyst


Not a Fox News legal analyst! Could there be a higher authority??? Have legal analysts ever been wrong before?

Timmy Timmy... time to let the old lies die. You held on to this one like a true “bitter clinger,” but it’s evaporating like nitrous at a rave. Best find something a bit more solid on which to base your naive worldview.
101732   Bd6r   2019 Mar 28, 9:15am  

Kakistocracy says
In the meantime, though, this is turning into exactly the sort of scandal Trump loves.

Should not have allowed Smollett to get off - now Trump holds moral high ground. As it looks now, raycist is not Trump, but people who allowed a black celebrity get off from a well-deserved punishment.
101733   Ceffer   2019 Mar 28, 9:28am  

Their only option now is to claim they actually believed their lies, rather than systematically cramming the known lies down the throat of America with intent.

Better to look extremely stupid and incompetent than overtly evil? It's optics dilemma. "Oh, but I REALLY, REALLY BELIEVED it!"

Sorry, but Schiff et. alia wind up looking extremely stupid, incompetent, corrupt AND evil. The CIA director had the common sense to fall back and apologize before the long knives came after him rather than maintaining the pretense.
101734   Goran_K   2019 Mar 28, 9:43am  

This is getting pathetic.
101735   zzyzzx   2019 Mar 28, 9:59am  

101736   anonymous   2019 Mar 28, 10:41am  

This is going to be fun.

Trump will continue to publicly go on record saying he does not mind if the full Mueller Report if released knowing full well Baar, McConnell and others will never let it happen.

Then he can say honestly (for once) see I stated publicly many times I was for the full release however other members of the Administration and the Senate have seen otherwise so there is nothing I can do about that.

His base will swallow that hook, line and sinker and then some.
101737   anonymous   2019 Mar 28, 10:58am  

60% of This Year’s Deficit Is the Result of Tax Cuts and Other Recent Legislation: CRFB



The federal deficit for fiscal 2019 is projected to climb to around $900 billion, or $118 billion more than last year, according to estimates from the Congressional Budget Office. Most of that total — $540 billion — is the result of legislation passed since 2015, according to a new report by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

The budget watchdog group calculates that the tax cuts passed by Republicans in 2017 will cost $230 billion this year, or 25 percent of the projected deficit. A bipartisan 2018 deal to increase spending over two years will cost another $190 billion in 2019, representing 21 percent of the expected deficit.

Without those two major pieces of legislation and other laws passed since 2015, this year’s deficit would be $360 billion (or 1.7 percent of gross domestic product), the lowest since 2007.

“Fixing our debt will now require reversing the harm that has already been done with unpaid-for tax cuts and spending increases, in addition to confronting the rising costs of Social Security and Medicare with spending changes and/or additional revenue,” CRFB says.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2019/03/18/60-Year-s-Deficit-Result-Tax-Cuts-and-Other-Recent-Legislation-CRFB
101738   Shaman   2019 Mar 28, 11:00am  

Kakistocracy says
Trump will continue to publicly go on record saying he does not mind if the full Mueller Report if released knowing full well Baar, McConnell and others will never let it happen.

Then he can say honestly (for once) see I stated publicly many times I was for the full release however other members of the Administration and the Senate have seen otherwise so there is nothing I can do about that.


If they are serious about it, Congress will have to restore the law they made post-Watergate scandal, which expired in 1999. Without the guidance of that special law,
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/counsel/office/primer.html
the AG must refer to Department of Justice practices and mandates.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/22/when-mueller-finishes-his-report-what-will-people-be-told/?utm_term=.338692d7501d
Specifically: “While the rules allow him to release it, they specifically cite Department of Justice policy that generally says prosecutors should not talk about people who are investigated but not charged to protect them from having their reputations smeared. During Barr’s confirmation hearing, Democrats in Congress pushed him to commit to release the full report, but he repeatedly declined to do so.”

Basically, it’s a judgement call and Barr went this way on it. Opening this can of worms further will only put Democrats further into the soup.
101739   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 11:04am  

Kakistocracy says
This is going to be fun.

I agree.

While some of the more experienced Dems smell a trap, the Maddows and the Schiffs are walking right into it, because Trump is laughing as they develop a whole new set of conspiracy theories and then when the report is released, it will show all the ranting and raving to be just as Over the Top.
101740   anonymous   2019 Mar 28, 11:05am  

Quigley says

Basically, it’s a judgement call and Barr went this way on it


A convenient call by a convenient AG appointment. Baar was informed three weeks ago by Mueller he would not be reaching any deicsions so Baar had ample time to write those four god awful long pages.

The scenario will play out exactly as I described - Trump continues to appear stating over and over he does not care, mind whatever that the full report gets released - why ?

He knows it will never ever happen. He can safely tell that story over and over all the way to November 2020 and not be lying (for once) since he knows full well whatever reason(s) Baar and McConnell do not want the American people to see will not be seen.
101741   Bd6r   2019 Mar 28, 11:05am  

lets all must stop working and borrow money. Someone surely will lend it to us!
101742   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 11:08am  

Fact: Every Trump AG let Mueller do whatever he wanted.

Also, it's funny that Hillary's Medical Records, which probably run 100s of pages, "were summarized" into a one sided piece of paper and a few paragraphs with minimal facts.
101743   anonymous   2019 Mar 28, 11:08am  

MisterLearnToCode says
it will show all the ranting and raving to be just as Over the Top.


Is something going to come out to show the same about the hysterical ranting and raving about Ocasio Cortez or is she this year's Hillary and Pocahontas ?

Hard to believe one woman is the object of so much obsession - and fear too.
101744   anonymous   2019 Mar 28, 11:10am  

MisterLearnToCode says
Fact: Every Trump AG let Mueller do whatever he wanted.


Perhaps - but he won't let that report come out - rather his appointees won't and McConnel won't - for some reason.

But let us now dwell on Potus, lets bring back Hillary and Barrack to deflect and detract attention away.
101745   Shaman   2019 Mar 28, 11:14am  

Kakistocracy says
A convenient call by a convenient AG appointment.


Q: If he hadn’t been confirmed in time, to whom would the report have been delivered?
A: Deputy AG Rosenstein.
Fun fact: Rosenstein agreed with Barr that there was not enough evidence to charge Trump with a crime.

So your argument that a different AG would have delivered a different result falls apart.

That was easy!
101746   anonymous   2019 Mar 28, 11:17am  

Quigley says
So your argument that a different AG would have delivered a different result falls apart.


That is your argument, please show me exactly where I stated that. I said the appointment was convenient, having a bathroom right off my bedroom is also convenient.

I know the "fun fact" also.... try harder

This is one big game going on right now and more than Potus is involved.
101747   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 11:19am  

Kakistocracy says
Perhaps - but he won't let that report come out - rather his appointees won't and McConnel won't - for some reason.


One thing we do know is Mueller said No Collusion. And we can bypass proving there are no orbiting teapots in L3.

It's a game, and the Dems are falling into it.

One of the best things the Trump Admin has going for it is that his opponents honestly believe he is inept.
101748   anonymous   2019 Mar 28, 11:20am  

MisterLearnToCode says
his opponents honestly believe he is inept


As a leader - yes, he is inept.

As an honest person able to tell the truth on a routine basis - yes, he is inept.

As a con man and grifter - no. This is the one area he excels in.
101749   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 11:24am  

The Media becomes more and more unhinged and untrustworthy; their credit is now at an all time low.



I disagree - I think Brennan abused his former office more than anybody else.
101750   georgeliberte   2019 Mar 28, 11:25am  

The prosecution had no other choice- what do you think would become of a gay black man in prison? Terrible things?
101751   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 11:26am  

Kakistocracy says
In the meantime, though, this is turning into exactly the sort of scandal Trump loves.

It’s about a black person, so he can be racist.

It’s about a political opponent, so he can be conspiratorial.

And it’s about a celebrity, so he knows there’s a lot of press interest.

Is it a good use of the president of the United States’ time? Of course not.

Will his supporters cheer him on anyway for dipping his totally unbiased fingers into this situation? Probably.

Do I deeply wish I hadn’t gotten out of bed this morning? You know it.


Do you think, given the Police Report and Prosecutor's Summary and Grand Jury Indictments, that Smollett is innocent?

Do you think Rahm Emmanuel and the Chicago Chief of Police are working for Donald Trump?
101752   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 11:30am  



How long before Smollett dedicates his time and resources to tracking down the 2AM White MAGA Hat wearers, just like OJ's attempts to find the real killers.
101753   CBOEtrader   2019 Mar 28, 11:36am  

Kakistocracy says
It’s about a black person, so he can be racist.


Head meet sand.
101754   CBOEtrader   2019 Mar 28, 11:38am  

d6rB says
Kakistocracy says
In the meantime, though, this is turning into exactly the sort of scandal Trump loves.

Should not have allowed Smollett to get off - now Trump holds moral high ground. As it looks now, raycist is not Trump, but people who allowed a black celebrity get off from a well-deserved punishment.


We all know the left cant help but play the racist card, even when it is pure projection. Take that forecast to the bank
101755   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 11:49am  

CBOEtrader says
We all know the left cant help but play the racist card, even when it is pure projection. Take that forecast to the bank



This is gonna play out just like Broward after Parkland.

All the minority superintendents, commissioners, etc. "You questioning our management, unspent school security money, etc. IS RACIST!!!".
101756   anonymous   2019 Mar 28, 11:59am  

Ah yes - fake news meme again - round and round it goes, where it stops, no one knows but it sure won't be at the Oval Office - for anything - ever.

When is that famous "buck" going to make a stop at the desk in the oval office at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue again ? Sometime before November of 2020 I hope.

God only knows it has not been for lack of need or want or deserving.
101757   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 12:00pm  

Justice Department insiders just dropped a massive bomb on Robert Mueller, revealing his Special Counsel team concluded MONTHS BEFORE the 2018 midterm elections there was no proof linking Donald Trump or his campaign to colluding with Russians during the presidential election.

Yet Mueller did not divulge his team’s findings until this week, five months after the 2018 midterm elections.

“The most important portions of the investigation were concluded in August (2018),” a high-ranking Justice Department official said. “(Rod) Rosenstein was briefed and it was common gossip and well-known nothing had been pinned on Trump and it was wrapping up.”

August 2018, in fact, is three months before the Nov. 2018 elections, where and when all of the Democrats running against Republicans for House and Senate seats used Trump’s fabricated ties with Russia as campaign platforms. And they won and won big at the cost of the Republicans. And on the back of a massive lie.

Meanwhile, Mueller sat on his team’s intelligence that cleared Trump of any and all allegations involving Russia and colluding or working with Russia to facilitate the defeat of Hillary Clinton. And likewise, Rosenstein and former Attorney General Jeff Sessions also did not push for Mueller to release the results of his team’s probe.
https://truepundit.com/massive-doj-leak-reveals-mueller-finished-trump-russia-probe-months-before-2018-elections-kept-silent-while-dems-swept-midterms/


Here's an interesting leak : Mueller concluded no collusion before the Midterms.
101758   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 12:02pm  

Kakistocracy says
Ah yes - fake news meme again - round and round it goes, where it stops, no one knows but it sure won't be at the Oval Office - for anything - ever.


And the Russian Collusion Conspiracy Theory won't die.

As soon as the report is released, I suspect the Deadenders will pivot to "Well, Mueller is a Republican After All! Cover Up!"
101759   anonymous   2019 Mar 28, 12:03pm  

MisterLearnToCode says
just dropped a massive bomb on Robert Mueller


Is that like the "Nune's Memo" that someone on here described in Hysterical Terms as going to end the investigation many many months ago ?

Notice on the interesting leak it say nothing about no obstruction etc.
101760   anonymous   2019 Mar 28, 12:04pm  

MisterLearnToCode says
As soon as the report is released


Plenty of time to ponder the contents - plenty of time.
101761   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 12:07pm  

Kakistocracy says
Is that like the "Nune's Memo" that someone on here described in Hysterical Terms as going to end the investigation many many months ago ?


The investigation into Collusion ended in August 2018, according to leaks.

Kakistocracy says
Plenty of time to ponder the contents - plenty of time.



Oh yes, the Hoax Queen's followers will be writing books and posting on Democratic Underground for many, many years. It will still be a truth among hardcore Democrats when I go to collect my first Social Security Check.
101762   anonymous   2019 Mar 28, 12:16pm  

MisterLearnToCode says
The investigation into Collusion ended in August 2018, according to leaks.


Is sure as hell didn't end within weeks or even months of the hysterical post now did it ?

Don't rush for the Social Security Check - I'm part of the group that is draining it before you get any and we don't need any more competition.
101763   Goran_K   2019 Mar 28, 12:34pm  

Kakistocracy says
The scenario will play out exactly as I described


When has that ever happened? lol

You were SURE that Trump was colluding and Muellar would prove this for months.
101764   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 12:46pm  

Latest Excuse: "Dey was wearing WHITEFACE!"

'They could have worn white face': Jussie Smollett lawyer offers bizarre explanation as to why the Empire actor told police his Nigerian assailants were white - and points to old video of one of them wearing make-up to play the Joker as potential proof
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6860095/Jussie-Smolletts-lawyer-says-thought-brothers-white-wearing-make-up.html
101765   RWSGFY   2019 Mar 28, 12:54pm  

MisterLearnToCode says
'They could have worn white face': Jussie Smollett lawyer offers bizarre explanation as to why the Empire actor told police his Nigerian assailants were white -


Wait a sec: the guy hires two black dudes to stage an attack on a certain day at a certain location but when attacked on said day at a said location by two dudes "in whiteface" he assumes that these are two completely different dudes attacking him "for reals"? Nobody can be THAT stupid, even fucking male bimbo from some soap opera cast.
101766   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 12:57pm  

Remember @Kakistocracy, the wise words of the Golden Child & Savior



I'd advise Clinton, Schiff, Maddow, etc. to stop whinging. Case Closed!
101767   RWSGFY   2019 Mar 28, 1:05pm  

jazz_music says
The middle class is vanishing


This is impossible by definition.
101768   georgeliberte   2019 Mar 28, 1:14pm  

Pretty convincing white face, looks Caucasian to me, probably Irish.

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